Tyrod's legacy?

[H2o]

He's a genuinely good dude, and by all accounts a great teammate, but his limitations are evident. Trouble reading defenses, especially over the middle of the field. He didn't trust what he saw and throw the ball to open windows where his guys could go get it. This caused him to hold onto the ball too long and the windows would close. He was champion of the check down, numerous times throwing the ball short to gain meaningless yards on 3rd downs. He also didn't quite understand ball placement on certain routes or in certain situations during the game. The Playoff game against Jacksonville was prime example of this. Every now and again he would throw a beautiful deep pass, but he still wasn't consistent enough to be starting caliber. I liked Tyrod and hold no ill will towards him. He was the QB of the team that ended the drought. Kudos for him to be able to hang onto a job and do as well as he has in this league for all of these years. 

[John from Riverside]

He is a back up QB in the league and I don’t mean that as a knock against him we have QBs in this league that have no business being back ups

[corta765]

Tyrod in simple terms elevated the expectations of QB play and was fine. After years and years of porus QBing since Bledsoe when he became QB the offense at least moved and could do some things. They had a good identity as a running team as he could move well too and as a passer he was decent not great but protected the ball. He was almost that necessary next step to say "ok we cannot have QB play worse then this when we draft a rookie".

 

On a more complex take Tyrod was let down by coaching his first two years (Rex) which may have ruined any chance for his long term future. I have said routinely on here until the 2020 Bills the most talented roster the team has had since 99 was the 2015 group. The offense was very dynamic and just needed the defense to do its job forget even being good. Instead they were a wreck due to Rex and I believe that led to Tyrod being more conservatives as a result. He never was going to see the field the way you wanted and I do think internally he was more conservative as a thrower. But the teams were so porus on D in 15-16 that he had very very little wiggle room if they turned it over. 2017 was the inverse as the offense was much weaker but the defense thanks to coaching and young talent did make some stops.

 

I do also think skin color played a role in some fans eyes unfortunately with what Tyrod did. Fitz is adored by fans but realistically he wasn't that good nor was the team.  Tyrod's offenses ranked far better in his time in Buffalo, they made the playoffs, and he was 23-20 as a starter. Yet of the two people talk farrr more kindly and appreciative of the guy whose best season with the Bills the team went 6-10 and he threw 23 INTs. I have seen some garbage spewed about Taylor that are the typical stereotypes thrown at African American Qb's which were not remotely true. 

 

So in a more complex view Tyrod is maybe the most underappreciated misunderstood QB of the Bills while being limited in certain ways as a QB. To me the dude was a standup individual who loved his time in Buffalo and was a very good serviceable QB responsible for breaking the drought.

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

Tyrod was a good teammate and good person.  He was an average QB for an average team.

 

Tyrod's biggest issue was that he lacked the killer instinct that great QBs posses.  It seemed that his fear of making a mistake outweighed his desire to win.  There were many times that I found myself yelling at the TV after he ran out of bounds short of the first down marker or checked down too short on a third down play.  I was not the least bit sad to see the team move on from Tyrod.  He is not the type of QB that will ever lead an NFL team to a championship.

[corta765]

56 minutes ago, H2o said:

He's a genuinely good dude, and by all accounts a great teammate, but his limitations are evident. Trouble reading defenses, especially over the middle of the field. He didn't trust what he saw and throw the ball to open windows where his guys could go get it. This caused him to hold onto the ball too long and the windows would close. He was champion of the check down, numerous times throwing the ball short to gain meaningless yards on 3rd downs. He also didn't quite understand ball placement on certain routes or in certain situations during the game. The Playoff game against Jacksonville was prime example of this. Every now and again he would throw a beautiful deep pass, but he still wasn't consistent enough to be starting caliber. I liked Tyrod and hold no ill will towards him. He was the QB of the team that ended the drought. Kudos for him to be able to hang onto a job and do as well as he has in this league for all of these years. 

 

This is a good synopsis. The playoff game was his end all as that game was there for the taking and his limitations came to the forefront big time there.

 

I really do hope though when the day comes that they honor the 17 team for ending the drought he is warmly embraced by Bills fans in larger way because he was a real bright spot during the chaotic Rex/Whaley time.

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

8 minutes ago, corta765 said:

I do also think skin color played a role in some fans eyes unfortunately with what Tyrod did. Fitz is adored by fans but realistically he wasn't that good nor was the team.  Tyrod's offenses ranked far better in his time in Buffalo, they made the playoffs, and he was 23-20 as a starter. Yet of the two people talk farrr more kindly and appreciative of the guy whose best season with the Bills the team went 6-10 and he threw 23 INTs. I have seen some garbage spewed about Taylor that are the typical stereotypes thrown at African American Qb's which were not remotely true. 

 

So in a more complex view Tyrod is maybe the most underappreciated misunderstood QB of the Bills while being limited in certain ways as a QB. To me the dude was a standup individual who loved his time in Buffalo and was a very good serviceable QB responsible for breaking the drought.

Fitz is adored for his unquestionable competitiveness and toughness.  If you were going to lose a game with Fitz at the helm, it would likely end with a hail mary interception.  As frustrating as that was, people admired the fact that he left it all on the field.

 

I remember Tyrod as a player that was not going to take the big risks if it meant throwing an interception or taking a big hit along the sideline.  If the team was down 14 with 10 minutes left, I never had the feeling that Tyrod was going to pull off the comeback.  This strategy has served him well as he has put up respectable stats and stuck around the league for many years.  

[T master]

Tyrod was once again and still is a victim of circumstances i think he was a Bills type player all abut team & left it all on the field but due to coaching & the unknown direction of the team at that time he was destined to be just another player that gave his all in futility for the Bills .

 

Since he has left it's been the same for him he never seems to catch a break but a really good player that i will always think highly of no matter what team he plays for & would thank him for what he gave to the Bills while here !! 

[mrags]

16 hours ago, Gugny said:

He was effin' horrible.  The only thing he was good at was padding his stats.  Pure crap.

I’m with Gug, he was pure trash. 
 

I really wanted him to be good and hoped he would be. Thought he would be the starter before he was. He just wasn’t good though. Way too hesitant. He played not to lose. 

[corta765]

5 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

Fitz is adored for his unquestionable competitiveness and toughness.  If you were going to lose a game with Fitz at the helm, it would likely end with a hail mary interception.  As frustrating as that was, people admired the fact that he left it all on the field.

 

I remember Tyrod as a player that was not going to take the big risks if it meant throwing an interception or taking a big hit along the sideline.  If the team was down 14 with 10 minutes left, I never had the feeling that Tyrod was going to pull off the comeback.  This strategy has served him well as he has put up respectable stats and stuck around the league for many years.  

 

I don't disagree with that for the most part, but some of that was coaching also. Rex's entire strategy was run the ball and control the clock. I don't think if Tyrod was told to rip it he would go off in a super big way as he was limited (field vision especially), but I think he probably is more aggressive then shown. It is funny people rip Ty for comebacks though because he actually has a some across all three seasons. I do agree though Fitz was a far more dramatic style to watch for better or many times worse lol.

[benderbender]

I know nobody wants to admit it, but Tyrod = Fitz. They are two sides of the same drought coin. Different styles under different offenses. The only things they have in common is being genuinely good guys, and not having the tools needed on the roster to be successful. Other than that, it's a pick your poison scenario. Do you want a great team guy who will not lose you the game but end up doing it circuitously, or the gunslinger who will lose your comeback with a 4th quarter interception? You don't have to hate one and love the other.

 

But you do. I'm disappointed. What would grandma say? Tisk tisk.  

[gobills404]

His legacy is as one of the most underrated and disrespected Bills players in recent memory. IMO he was the best QB of the drought era and it’s not close. He put up similar yards and TDs (on a per game basis) to Bledsoe and Fitz except he took wayyyyyy better care of the football and was a legit dual threat QB. During his time with the Bills (2015-2017), he was second only to Cam Newton in both rushing yards AND rushing touchdowns by a QB.

[hondo in seattle]

2 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Bledsoe was garbage for most of his career here….absolute trash…. I’m still shocked when people think Bledsoe was better than Tyrod was here…. Ain’t even close in my opinion.

 

Bledsoe's first half-season was really good.    

[corta765]

1 hour ago, benderbender said:

I know nobody wants to admit it, but Tyrod = Fitz. They are two sides of the same drought coin. Different styles under different offenses. The only things they have in common is being genuinely good guys, and not having the tools needed on the roster to be successful. Other than that, it's a pick your poison scenario. Do you want a great team guy who will not lose you the game but end up doing it circuitously, or the gunslinger who will lose your comeback with a 4th quarter interception? You don't have to hate one and love the other.

 

But you do. I'm disappointed. What would grandma say? Tisk tisk.  

 

That is a slight to Tyrod. Fitz was a loose cannon with the ball and his teams couldn't break 6-10. Tyrod was 23-20 and a true dual threat with his running ability. They both had limitations in different ways that held their ceiling so in that regard yes, but Tyrod was a better weapon which allowed for a far better offense then Fitz ever could run.

[FilthyBeast]

18 hours ago, Bills fan since 87 said:

So on the Bills Mafia Facebook page somebody posted a recent pic of themselves with Tyrod Taylor.  I commented on how I appreciated his time here, wished him the best and was thankful he was a part of the end of the drought.  Immediately some one commented “you mean Andy Dalton”.  This turned into a back and forth where the other Bills fan went on to say how Tyrod was never clutch and proceeded to trash him.  In fact I was surprised by the amount of negative comments toward him from other posters (probably 60/40 good comments but still a lot of negativity) and it got me to thinking what is Tyrod’s legacy here in Buffalo?

 

Obviously, he is no Jim Kelly, Jack Kemp or even Joe Ferguson and most recently the savior Josh.  But to think of him as a bad player or to lump him with the likes Trent Edwards, EJ Manuel and Todd Collins seems ridiculous too me.  So what group would you include him in, again based on legacy?  He only spent three years here throwing 51 touchdowns and 16 interceptions.  Compare that to Drew Bledsoe’s 55 and 43 also in a 3 year span or Fitz’s 80 and 64 in 4 years and he really isn’t all that far behind.  In fact way behind on interceptions (as maddening as the checkdowns could be)

 

But how would we compare him to those two as a Buffalo Bill?  We all LOVE Fitz, his personality and how he’s stood by Buffalo.  Bledsoe had one fantastic and fun year here before fizzling out fast.  Is there a better QB to compare him too statistically and success wise over a comprable span with the Bills?

 

Tyrod was a gutsy player that, like so many others during and before the drought had NOTHING around him.  I remember a specific 3rd and 27 type play against the Titans where he ran for the first down before being horse collard into an injury at the plays end.  Dude gave it his all.  Is it fair to say his legacy is equal to Fitz when you consider the teams oh so modest success in his last year?

 

Im interested in what others might think.  How you will remember him and his tenure as a Bills quarterback ?

 

With all that said thankfully those days are all behind us now.  We have a stud  QB and Super Bowl aspirations.  However I’ve always been a Bills fan and I remember Tyrod’s time here fondly in context.  Maybe I’m way off?  Does the recent success distort the memories of those darker times?  Do you have any particulallry good or bad Tyrod Buffalo Bill memories?   Go Bills!

 

He was honestly just another guy on a very long list of QB's that came through here from 2000 - 2017.

 

Not among the most terrible of the lot, but I think some fans give him too much credit just because he's associated with the team that broke the drought in 2017 (which yes like some fans still point out had a lot more to do with Andy Dalton than McD and that team).

 

In the end though it's proven that Tyrod is another glorified backup who has proven he's not up to snuff as a full time NFL starter.

[bigduke6]

Tyrod,  good guy,  below average QB.   wish him the best,  glad hes gone.

couldnt read the entire field,  either chucked it long on low percentage passes or took off running.    hard to win with that combination.

[C.Biscuit97]

The slightly darker, less good Alex Smith. Won’t lose games for you, rarely was the reason you won them. I wasn’t a fan of him here because I wanted better and he felt like settling. But he was a good solid player who’s had a great career as NFL qb that most people didn’t think he would have. Respect the man for helping end the drought and I’m glad he’s made the money he has.

[Albany,n.y.]

4 hours ago, corta765 said:

I do also think skin color played a role in some fans eyes unfortunately with what Tyrod did. Fitz is adored by fans but realistically he wasn't that good nor was the team.  Tyrod's offenses ranked far better in his time in Buffalo, they made the playoffs, and he was 23-20 as a starter. Yet of the two people talk farrr more kindly and appreciative of the guy whose best season with the Bills the team went 6-10 and he threw 23 INTs. I have seen some garbage spewed about Taylor that are the typical stereotypes thrown at African American Qb's which were not remotely true. 

 

The difference between fans views of Fitzpatrick & Taylor has nothing to do with race-It's all about personalities, on & off the field.

 

Fitzpatrick on the field was a gunslinger.  His talents didn't always match his bravado, hence "Fitzmagic" and "Fitztragic".  Off the field Fitzpatrick is very outgoing with a great sense of humor and a dynamic personality.  That's why as soon as he retired he was signed to be part of the Thursday broadcasts.  

 

Taylor is reserved, both on and off the field.  On the field he was very conservative, rarely taking chances.  Off the field, Taylor is a pretty quiet guy who quite frankly, comes off as rather bland.  Nobody is going to be knocking down his door for a high profile network job.    

[corta765]

2 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

The difference between fans views of Fitzpatrick & Taylor has nothing to do with race-It's all about personalities, on & off the field.

 

Fitzpatrick on the field was a gunslinger.  His talents didn't always match his bravado, hence "Fitzmagic" and "Fitztragic".  Off the field Fitzpatrick is very outgoing with a great sense of humor and a dynamic personality.  That's why as soon as he retired he was signed to be part of the Thursday broadcasts.  

 

Taylor is reserved, both on and off the field.  On the field he was very conservative, rarely taking chances.  Off the field, Taylor is a pretty quiet guy who quite frankly, comes off as rather bland.  Nobody is going to be knocking down his door for a high profile network job.    

 

Sorry but I 100% heard in person from Bills fans and have read online that made judgements that were race related in how they perceived Tyrod vs actual performance. This was not a one time occurrence either unfortunately. It is part of why I think some fans discount Taylor for breaking the drought and bring up Dalton. Again not all by any means, but there are some and they made their voice known.

 

As for the differences in the players personalities 100% accurate. I mean heck Fitz was at the playoff game with the fans, to fans he is one of us and its awesome. Tyrod was a consummate professional but reserved and quiet which is fine too. I did like that in 2016 he took at the page in the Buffalo News on what it meant to him to be the starting QB, he def cared just not as raw raw.

[Royale with Cheese]

3 hours ago, corta765 said:

 

That is a slight to Tyrod. Fitz was a loose cannon with the ball and his teams couldn't break 6-10. Tyrod was 23-20 and a true dual threat with his running ability. They both had limitations in different ways that held their ceiling so in that regard yes, but Tyrod was a better weapon which allowed for a far better offense then Fitz ever could run.

 

I don't see how you could call him a true dual threat.  He wasn't a threat in the passing game because of his limitations.  

 

Josh Allen is a true dual threat.  If you keep him in the pocket, he can shred you.  If you allow him to scramble, he can kill you.

 

Tyrod if you kept him in the pocket, he wasn't very effective.  

[corta765]

11 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I don't see how you could call him a true dual threat.  He wasn't a threat in the passing game because of his limitations.  

 

Josh Allen is a true dual threat.  If you keep him in the pocket, he can shred you.  If you allow him to scramble, he can kill you.

 

Tyrod if you kept him in the pocket, he wasn't very effective.  

 

He was second to Cam Newton in that period for rushing yds and tds. His first two season as starter he threw for 6000 yds and 37 Tds. He was a legit dual threat and pretty good weapon. As a passing Qb he was serviceable to at points pretty good for what was asked.

 

Comparing anyone to Josh is stupid, he is already on a pace to be the best dual threat QB ever and his broken records yearly because of it. Josh replaced Tyrod because his ceiling was maybe 11 wins and a playoff win, the Bills smartly went for better but it didn't make Tyrod atrocious either.

[TheFunPolice]

In terms of style, Tyrod was trent edwards with speed and agility. Neither one would throw the ball. 

 

Biggest difference is Tyrod could make explosive plays at times with his legs, whereas trent would throw the ball away on 4th down and shuffle off to the sidelines all giddy and without a care in the world. 

 

Tyrod had a great attitude and was a grinder. He's just not very good at being an NFL QB, which is why he has never really caught on before or after. Looks the exact same way now as he did then: some big runs, a "gamer" and a total lack of passing prowess. 

 

Tyrod happened to be the QB when Andy Dalton got the Bills to the playoffs. Look at our wildcard game against Doug Marrone and the Jaguars. Just pathetic. Calling him the "guy who broke the drought" is a little silly to me, but I get the argument I guess. 

 

BTW, Rex Ryan came very close to doing that as coach, with Tyrod as his QB. That would likely have meant no McDermott, no Allen, crazy the butterfly effect it would have had, even if Rex only kept the job an extra year or two. 

 

[corta765]

1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said:

BTW, Rex Ryan came very close to doing that as coach, with Tyrod as his QB. That would likely have meant no McDermott, no Allen, crazy the butterfly effect it would have had, even if Rex only kept the job an extra year or two. 

 

 

I threw that out to my buddies that had Rex won week 16 vs MIA in 16 and won 17 I believe the Bills would've made the playoffs. Yikes!

[TheFunPolice]

2 minutes ago, corta765 said:

 

I threw that out to my buddies that had Rex won week 16 vs MIA in 16 and won 17 I believe the Bills would've made the playoffs. Yikes!

 

Yup, which buys him an extra year above what he got at least, and McDermott enters the coaching pool as a fairly sought after guy and ends up somewhere else. Our record doesn't allow us to get Allen, and Beane is never the GM, since he came with McDermott basically. 

 

IMO we would have been the Texans or Alex Smith Chiefs playoff teams: decent record teams with zero chance of going anywhere. 

 

 

Edited July 19, 2022 by TheFunPolice

[Albany,n.y.]

25 minutes ago, corta765 said:

 

He was second to Cam Newton in that period for rushing yds and tds. His first two season as starter he threw for 6000 yds and 37 Tds. He was a legit dual threat and pretty good weapon. As a passing Qb he was serviceable to at points pretty good for what was asked.

 

Comparing anyone to Josh is stupid, he is already on a pace to be the best dual threat QB ever and his broken records yearly because of it. Josh replaced Tyrod because his ceiling was maybe 11 wins and a playoff win, the Bills smartly went for better but it didn't make Tyrod atrocious either.

Tyrod was never close to an 11 win QB.  His best record as a starter was in 2017 when the Bills won 8 of his 14 starts.  His celing is 2 games above .500 and he's only hit it once in his career.  Also the playoff game, his last game as a Bill, was pretty bad.  His career record in all games started is 26-26-1.  Pretty much sums up what he is.

For the amount of talent he has, Tyrod has exceeded all expectations.  As a 6th round pick he had about a 10% chance at a long term NFL career. He's lasted 12 years counting this upcoming season.  He's a decent backup QB, who won't lose you a game by himself like some of the guys we've had (Peterman, Fromm being the latest duds) and the coaches & players must like him for him to last as long in the NFL.  Also he's made millions & should be set for life, not as good as the most famous 6th round QB, but overall, a pretty good career for a 6th round pick.  

11 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

BTW, Rex Ryan came very close to doing that as coach, with Tyrod as his QB. That would likely have meant no McDermott, no Allen, crazy the butterfly effect it would have had, even if Rex only kept the job an extra year or two. 

 

I've always thought that if Rex had remained, the Bills would have drafted Watson.  Best case scenario would be that we'd have all those picks Cleveland sent Houston & after a few good seasons early on with Watson, we'd currently be back in QB hell.

 

Edited July 19, 2022 by Albany,n.y.

[Kirby Jackson]

7 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Bledsoe was garbage for most of his career here….absolute trash…. I’m still shocked when people think Bledsoe was better than Tyrod was here…. Ain’t even close in my opinion.

I’m 100% with you here Scott. Bledsoe is THE most overrated player that the Bills have ever had. He wasn’t even okay. He played 8 good games and then was a nightmare. More turnovers than TDs, 110 sacks in 40 games, 57% completion and an 18-22 record with that talent. Just disgusting

[Mike is my real name]

He really wasn't good.  Got sacked slot.  Did not throw in tight windows. If you don't throw the difficult pass and get sacked you won't throw interceptions. Stop with meaningless stats.  He did throw a good long ball.   Defense and shady carried that team.  The Jacksonville game was abysmal quarterbacking.  

[Starr Almighty]

23 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:

Does every former Bill really need or qualify for a “legacy?” 

I agree with this. While I have your attention what do you think Sam Adams legacy as a Bill should be?

[JoPoy88]

1 hour ago, Starr Almighty said:

I agree with this. While I have your attention what do you think Sam Adams legacy as a Bill should be?

Why stop there? What about Nathan Peterman? Or Trent Edwards? Let’s clog the front page up and start a legacy thread for all of ‘em

Edited July 19, 2022 by JoPoy88

[Bills fan since 87]

1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said:

Why stop there? What about Nathan Peterman? Or Trent Edwards? Let’s clog the front page up and start a legacy thread for all of ‘em

 

Welp.  Three guys don't like a thread that is over 5 pages.  Better shut it down mods.

 

I'll never understand people taking shots at threads they're not into.  Why not just move on?  

 

 

3 hours ago, Starr Almighty said:

I agree with this. While I have your attention what do you think Sam Adams legacy as a Bill should be?

 

Yet you read 16 posts before you came to someone who you agreed with on this, odd.  Why dive that deep if its something your not intersted in?

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Has anyone mentioned

 

his mom telling people how to pronounce 

Tuh-Rod 

[Royale with Cheese]

6 hours ago, corta765 said:

 

He was second to Cam Newton in that period for rushing yds and tds. His first two season as starter he threw for 6000 yds and 37 Tds. He was a legit dual threat and pretty good weapon. As a passing Qb he was serviceable to at points pretty good for what was asked.

 

Comparing anyone to Josh is stupid, he is already on a pace to be the best dual threat QB ever and his broken records yearly because of it. Josh replaced Tyrod because his ceiling was maybe 11 wins and a playoff win, the Bills smartly went for better but it didn't make Tyrod atrocious either.

I don’t think a 3,000 season average and 18 passing TD’s average is something special.  There’s a reason why he’s been a back up or lost his starting job multiple times.

 

He’s not a true dual threat where when you shut one dimension down, he struggles.  when he’s kept in the pocket, he’s a below average QB. Making the high percentage safe throw the majority of the time is the reason he didn’t throw picks…that’s not that impressive.

Edited July 20, 2022 by Royale with Cheese

[Starr Almighty]

1 hour ago, Bills fan since 87 said:

 

Welp.  Three guys don't like a thread that is over 5 pages.  Better shut it down mods.

 

I'll never understand people taking shots at threads they're not into.  Why not just move on?  

 

 

 

Yet you read 16 posts before you came to someone who you agreed with on this, odd.  Why dive that deep if its something your not intersted in?

 

If I had an issue with it why would I say ask about Adams. That time of the month?

Edited July 20, 2022 by Starr Almighty

[Victory Formation]

Tyrod was a great QB and a great dude. 

[Mike in Horseheads]

Throw the ***** ball Tyrod!!!!!!  That is his lasting legacy with me

[eball]

There is an odd take out there about how Tyrod led the best Bills offense of the 2010s during Rex’s two years and never turned the ball over, so therefore he should be appreciated.  It’s ridiculous.  I think that particular offense was run-centric (Greg Roman) and didn’t ask Tyrod to do very much.  When he was asked to step up, he rarely delivered.  Somebody said his YPA was 8.0 in 2015…yippee.  That usually happens when run-happy teams pass the ball, because they’re not playing the possession passing game.  And oh-by-the-way, once Roman was canned two games into the 2016 season Tyrod’s YPA that season and the next dropped to 6.9 and 6.7.  I remember two games in which Tyrod looked the part of an NFL starter, both in 2016 — at Seattle and vs. Miami in December — and the Bills still lost both of those.  In 2017 his stats were eerily similar to 2016…the difference in the Bills finally making the playoffs was better defensive play and some good luck.  Much is made about the Bills’ point differential in 2017, but that can almost entirely be attributed to the horrendous 3-week stretch in which they gave up 135 points to the Jets, Saints, and Chargers. In their other 14 games they gave up more than 20 pts only three times (twice to the Pats***).

 

Somebody suggested that if we only appreciate Tyrod for being the drought-ending QB we’re just stupid homers who enjoyed being on social media when the Bills finally made the playoffs.  I’m still trying to figure that one out.

 

Tyrod is by all accounts a heluva guy and great teammate, and he deserves recognition for carving out a great living for himself as an NFL football player.

 

He’s not a great QB, never was, and his three years in Buffalo were nothing special, although they did provide some lasting memories.

 

 

[Lfod]

I read through all the pages and to be honest I have not seen anything different from when the topic of Tyrod was beaten to death around the last year he played for the Bills.

 

Feels like you just necroed one of the buried existing topics with no actual reason like maybe some new news worthy information to justify talking about him again. 

Edited July 20, 2022 by Lfod

[Sharky7337]

Clearly it's that he kept the wheels from falling off at then end of the drought 

[corta765]

3 hours ago, eball said:

There is an odd take out there about how Tyrod led the best Bills offense of the 2010s during Rex’s two years and never turned the ball over, so therefore he should be appreciated.  It’s ridiculous.  I think that particular offense was run-centric (Greg Roman) and didn’t ask Tyrod to do very much.  When he was asked to step up, he rarely delivered.  Somebody said his YPA was 8.0 in 2015…yippee.  That usually happens when run-happy teams pass the ball, because they’re not playing the possession passing game.  And oh-by-the-way, once Roman was canned two games into the 2016 season Tyrod’s YPA that season and the next dropped to 6.9 and 6.7.  I remember two games in which Tyrod looked the part of an NFL starter, both in 2016 — at Seattle and vs. Miami in December — and the Bills still lost both of those.  In 2017 his stats were eerily similar to 2016…the difference in the Bills finally making the playoffs was better defensive play and some good luck.  Much is made about the Bills’ point differential in 2017, but that can almost entirely be attributed to the horrendous 3-week stretch in which they gave up 135 points to the Jets, Saints, and Chargers. In their other 14 games they gave up more than 20 pts only three times (twice to the Pats***).

 

Somebody suggested that if we only appreciate Tyrod for being the drought-ending QB we’re just stupid homers who enjoyed being on social media when the Bills finally made the playoffs.  I’m still trying to figure that one out.

 

Tyrod is by all accounts a heluva guy and great teammate, and he deserves recognition for carving out a great living for himself as an NFL football player.

 

He’s not a great QB, never was, and his three years in Buffalo were nothing special, although they did provide some lasting memories.

 

To me he at least raised expectations for QB play as it was reallyyy bad for a while there. The offense had some rhythm because he could run the ball which did well with Shady and make the simple passes asked. The Jaguars game though pretty much said all you needed to know though about him as a QB and I got really mad when people criticized the Bills for moving on after 2017 as if we should be happy with serviceable QB play. Someone said a lesser Alex Smith and I think that was a pretty spot on comparison. With him as QB you can prob win 10 games in a good year with some pieces around him and a decent D, but you aren't going further. For a team with a 17 year playoff drought that had some ghastly bad seasons of QB and offensive play, this was an upgrade to what we had seen. To the Bills credit they held themselves to a higher standard for what was truly needed at QB and went all out for a rookie QB in the 2018 draft.

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He was the best QB on the team for a couple of years.

 

He netted us a 3rd round pick from the factory of sadness.

 

He was a stylish post game dresser.

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I had already forgotten about him before this thread.

 

He was always a backup. The only reason we think of him as a fringe starter is because we are comparing him the the Legion of Suck at QB that we had since JK. 

 

Class act, team player, blah blah blah THROW THE F’N BALL TYROD