strive_for_five_guy Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, bigK14094 said: GD, please don't turn into Kelvin Benjimin Iām hoping more Eric Moulds instead š 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 227 and standing next to Allen he still looked like he was 210. Ā I bet Allen is checking in at 240-250 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 3 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Listed weight? Ā that's like asking a woman her weightĀ Ā š they are always 10 to 20 pounds lighterĀ Except Opposite world with women. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Heās up 7lbs if you read the article. Which is moreĀ reasonable. Lean guys (not O Linemen) if clean guys can gain 7 lbs. and makes sense. Ā 17 in a few months is unrealistic. Ā Made sense Stampede and thanks for the clarification. 34 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: 227 and standing next to Allen he still looked like he was 210. Ā I bet Allen is checking in at 240-250 Ā He was clocked at 238 lbs. last year. Ā Iām hopeful heās still around 240-45 as heās still lean and his speed is what we need not girth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Davis has the talent and size of a X Ā receiverĀ Ā Diggs and Davis should scare teams for years Ā Ā Other teams should be scared of D & D with Josh Allen as dungeon master. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 minute ago, machine gun kelly said: Which is moreĀ reasonable. Lean guys (not O Linemen) if clean guys can gain 7 lbs. and makes sense. Ā 17 in a few months is unrealistic. Ā Made sense Stampede and thanks for the clarification. I mean he was 216 lbs at the combine when you typically cut down to run fast. Heās looked bigger every season.Ā Ā Davis is a very physical WR. One of my favorite plays last year was vs Tampa on 4th down he caught it 2 yards short and carried the DB for the 1st. Heās such a clutch player. Ā Ā 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 4 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Listed weight? Ā that's like asking a woman her weightĀ Ā š they are always 10 to 20 pounds lighterĀ I still have the scar from college from doing thatš 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: Other teams should be scared of D & D with Josh Allen as dungeon master. Ā Then to add having to factor in Knox obviously. Also Cook you'd have to keep an eye on, even as a rookie he easily can be a serious threat in passing game. Overall Bills offense is a nightmare for opposing DC 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Ā Davis is eligible for a contract extension for the first time after this season..........so on the one hand it's a good sign that he is treating it like a contract year given the fact that the Bills have no backup plan whatsoever if he doesn't play up to the promise he showed in the playoffs last season. Ā But putting another 17 pounds on his frame after struggling with boo-boo foot both at the end of 2020 and the first 3 months of the 2021 season............we would assume he knows what's best for his body.........but if he ends up with the fascitis or joint issues that slow him that will be a "what was he thinking" decision. Ā My biggest concern for him is catching the football consistently in an expanded role. Ā Ā He's shown signs of being susceptible to the yips at times in his first two seasons. Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Rigby said: I still have the scar from college from doing thatš Ā Not every important lesson learned in college is related to your GPA! Ā I like that Gabe is working hard, but I pray there are no unintended consequences. Strong is great, as long as he doesnāt lose a half step by getting bigger.Ā Ā Ā . Edited July 13, 2022 by Augie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Logic said: There is understandably a lot of doubt about whether or not Davis can be a successful, top tier #2 WR for the duration of an entire season. Count me among those that has very little doubt. All he has lacked so far is opportunity. Ā Ā Yeah.Ā I don't really understand this argument. Ā If Davis was going from the #3 guy to the #1, and replacing Stefon Diggs...yeah, that could be a concern.Ā He would suddenly be the primary focus of the secondary and drawing the defense's top corner.Ā Ā Ā But in the #2 role?Ā We've seen him excel in that position each of the last two seasons.Ā He filled-in great for John Brown as a rookie.Ā He filled-in great for Emmanuel Sanders.Ā Ā Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I mean he was 216 lbs at the combine when you typically cut down to run fast. Heās looked bigger every season.Ā Ā Davis is a very physical WR. One of my favorite plays last year was vs Tampa on 4th down he caught it 2 yards short and carried the DB for the 1st. Heās such a clutch player. Ā Ā Thats different. If he was 216 and you noticed he gained a couple then that means he only put on 7-8 lbs. this off season. Ā Thatās normal with the right training and nutrition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Quite honestly with his frame at 6ā2ā, and if what someone just wrote he was 216 and growing, then I likeĀ a fast solid routeĀ runner who has the strength to dealĀ with contestedĀ catches. Ā I thought Metcalf wasĀ around that size. Ā Iām not saying Davis is Metcalf yet, but letās hope this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Eric Moulds was 6'2 and played at 225.Ā Ā Seems like Moulds was plenty fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Beans needs to extend him as soon as the opportunity presents itself because if he builds off of that performance he had against the Chiefs last season & brings that into this season they will have a very hard financial decision to make when his contract comes due but if they can extend him before that all the better . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Big Turk said: 17 lbs in an offseason is very tough even for elite athletes that have all the best in terms of training, diet, sleep, sports science etc...7 lbs is definitely possible with all that. 17 over 2 years is definitely achievable and sounds about right. Ā Ā Even 7 pounds of muscle would be difficult. 17 without "enhancements" is highly unlikely. A lot of times water retention is a major factor in rapid weight gain.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 4 hours ago, 1ManRaid said: Ā 10 catches for 242 yards and 5 TDs in 2 playoff games among an already stacked receiver group should automatically eliminate any doubt about being a #2.Ā They playoffs is when you unleash your weapons, and he wasn't even really needed against the Patriots so his workload was lighter in the first game. Ā Crazy to think he wasn't even a top 250 WR college recruiting prospect, or top 250 Florida recruit.Ā Beane loves his late bloomers. He was really solid at UCF and big part of a really talented āNational Championshipā team in Frostās last season. Ā I really liked the pick but worried about his hands, but the work he puts in is a big part of his continued improvement and that is a talent you canāt measure at the combine. Ā Iām sure being a part of a good organization with a guy like Josh at QB doesnāt hurt either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 I heard it was 77lbs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Even 7 pounds of muscle would be difficult. 17 without "enhancements" is highly unlikely. A lot of times water retention is a major factor in rapid weight gain.Ā Ā For a young athlete training hard with a likely great hormonal profile, it's not unrealistic to gain somewhere between 1-1.5 lbs of muscle a month. They have the best of everything. They can rest optimally between training sessions, take naps, get the best treatments, food, etc... Ā For normal people that is likely capped around 0.5-1lb a month and even that is unlikely since it's near impossible to have a job, have a family and still be able to do things optimally. Ā 17 lbs is completely not happening unless it's a lot of fat or from PEDs. Ā Also depends on what you take in terms of steroid in terms of water retention. The ones that will aromatize to estrogen in the body like testosterone for sure will give you "moon face"(aka water retention). Anadrol and D-Bol are also famous for water retention as they are DHT based. Ā Tren, Anavar and Winstrol will definitely not cause fluid retention, they actually help you dry out. Edited July 13, 2022 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) Best weight gain in competitive athletics history: Ā Edited July 13, 2022 by NoHuddleKelly12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Ā For a young athlete training hard with a likely great hormonal profile, it's not unrealistic to gain somewhere between 1-1.5 lbs of muscle a month. They have the best of everything. They can rest optimally between training sessions, take naps, get the best treatments, food, etc... Ā For normal people that is likely capped around 0.5-1lb a month and even that is unlikely since it's near impossible to have a job, have a family and still be able to do things optimally. Ā 17 lbs is completely not happening unless it's a lot of fat or from PEDs That is a very good point I didn't consider BT. These guys are young and have the best available in supplementation, nutrition, training methods and coaching at their disposal.Ā Ā No so for the older average Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Ā Lol, I wonder if Kelvin Benjamin popped into anyone's mind when seeing this news Brandon Marshall. Ā I think Davis has a monster year and breaks the Bills record for receiving Tds. Ā He is the Copper Kupp of this offense. Ā Kupps blocking ability is what makes him hard to defend. Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 For anyone interested, I'm up 30 pounds 15 years after the military. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 5 hours ago, SWATeam said: Seems bizarre that they only have two legitimate outside WR's on this roster, and then like 5 potential slots.Ā Seems risky to me, but maybe they have a plan to add someone else. Ā Shakir has potential to be an outside WR and McKenzie played outside his first year with Allen and was the leading receiver. They will be fine in a pinch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: But putting another 17 pounds on his frame after struggling with boo-boo foot both at the end of 2020 and the first 3 months of the 2021 season............we would assume he knows what's best for his body.........but if he ends up with the fascitis or joint issues that slow him that will be a "what was he thinking" decision. Ā This is something I have been a little concerned about even without the weight gain. Especially since he's the main guy now opposite of Diggs.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 4 hours ago, bigK14094 said: GD, please don't turn into Kelvin Benjimin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said: Quite honestly with his frame at 6ā2ā, and if what someone just wrote he was 216 and growing, then I likeĀ a fast solid routeĀ runner who has the strength to dealĀ with contestedĀ catches. Ā I thought Metcalf wasĀ around that size. Ā Iām not saying Davis is Metcalf yet, but letās hope this year. Ā Serious question (that some may think of as stupid): Would you trade Gabe Davis for Metcalf straight up? Iām much higher on Gabe than most, it seems. (Same with Knox, and I hope we can keep both long term.)Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Adding weight isnāt necessarily good for a wide out. Speed is everything in the nfl.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) Count me in as a member of the "Davis is gonna be a stud" camp.Ā The guy was already a good route runner, with strong hands and great footwork along the sidelines.Ā If he's added a little burst and more physicality, he can be a legit no. 1 receiver in this league.Ā Very excited to see what Josh will do this year with Diggs, improved versions of Gabe and Knox, and the addition of the smooth Cook out of the backfield.Ā Our boy has some elite weapons to play with and that's not even counting Crowder, the explosiveness of McKenzie, and potential playmaking ability of Shakir.Ā Ā Edited July 13, 2022 by TheBrownBear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 51 minutes ago, Augie said: Ā Serious question (that some may think of as stupid): Would you trade Gabe Davis for Metcalf straight up? Iām much higher on Gabe than most, it seems. (Same with Knox, and I hope we can keep both long term.)Ā Augster,Ā both have value, but first the Hawks arenāt trading him, and they are both dynamic. Ā Why give stuff up when you have to pay either one? Ā I say you stay with the daily you know thanā¦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 minute ago, machine gun kelly said: Augster,Ā both have value, but first the Hawks arenāt trading him, and they are both dynamic. Ā Why give stuff up when you have to pay either one? Ā I say you stay with the daily you know thanā¦ Ā My apologies, as I HATE those hypothetical trade threads. I didnāt mean it like that. It was just kind of a rhetorical question where I show Davis support. He is the guy Iād rather have on my team moving forward a few years. I canāt āsupport thatā in any way (and Iām NOT doing any research), itās just my gut.Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 17 lbs is way too much and will affect his speed. Ā This is the problem with living in Buffalo. There's nothing to do other than eating lots of wings with ranch sauceĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Awwufelloff said: Adding weight isnāt necessarily good for a wide out. Speed is everything in the nfl.Ā ššššYou think he went into the offseason and saidā¦ āI wanna be bigger. Even if it means Iām noticeably slowerā???? ā¦. I friggin doubt it.Ā Edited July 13, 2022 by Stank_Nasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 55 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said: Adding weight isnāt necessarily good for a wide out. Speed is everything in the nfl.Ā Not necessarily... I would think it depends what part of the body is getting most of the muscle mass. My educated guess is if all the leg muscles get enough attention then I think speed could definitely improve. Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: 17 lbs is way too much and will affect his speed. Ā This is the problem with living in Buffalo. There's nothing to do other than eating lots of wings with ranch sauceĀ Ā You and @Royale with Cheese should just get a room! Ā Ā Ā Ā . Edited July 14, 2022 by Augie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Augie said: Ā My apologies, as I HATE those hypothetical trade threads. I didnāt mean it like that. It was just kind of a rhetorical question where I show Davis support. He is the guy Iād rather have on my team moving forward a few years. I canāt āsupport thatā in any way (and Iām NOT doing any research), itās just my gut.Ā No worries brother. Ā I agree with youāre support FWIW. Ā There has been this never ending argument we wonāt have the $ to pay them all who comes due. Ā Iām not sure I buy it as next year the capologists projects in the mid 220ās, but the year after the mid 250ās, and goes up from there. Ā Id love a Knox deal early, but the three positions to tag as the tag is low is Safety, TE, and RB. Ā WR is now ridiculous, but if Gabe has a breakout year, they can work out some deal if they see worth it. Ā We need Knox though in personnel as itās so dam difficult to find TEās. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: 17 lbs is way too much and will affect his speed. Ā This is the problem with living in Buffalo. There's nothing to do other than eating lots of wings with ranch sauceĀ Not if some of that muscle mass went to the legs also....I think it's muscle weight and not fat weight from wings etc lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Protein powder and workout 17 lbs, or Nathan's Famous / Joey Chestnut 17 lbs? š¤ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Protein powder and workout 17 lbs, or Nathan's Famous / Joey Chestnut 17 lbs? š¤ Ā Lol, well it can't be a good thing if it's the Nathan's/Chestnut as a WR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: ššššYou think he went into the offseason and saidā¦ āI wanna be bigger. Even if it means Iām noticeably slowerā???? ā¦. I friggin doubt it.Ā Judging by hit squat form I'd say he has no idea what he wants. Surprised he didn't get hurt. I've been lifting for close to a decade 5 days a week. Edited July 14, 2022 by Awwufelloff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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