K-9 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I mean you can argue mental illness for anyone that somehow reaches the conclusion to do something like this, the White supremacist angle does raise the question of if it was terrorism. Given his manifesto, there is no possible way a defense attorney can argue mental illness was the cause. It was a cold, pre-meditated, well planned attack carried out by a person in full control of his faculties. It will be interesting to see what kind of charges are brought in addition to the 10 counts of first degree murder and 3 counts of attempted first degree murder (as of now). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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machine gun kelly Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Beast, I’m not speaking for the author of that comment, but for me, what we can control is how we raise our kids. I’ve preached love not hate, and I’d like to think a role model for my kids, compassion, and not tolerate their friends if they make crappy comments. I tried everyday to think about how I acted so they watch what you do, not necessarily what we say. Beyond that, for us it was church, Catholic and Christian school, and pray. I just don’t understand the hate without even knowing someone. I’m so sorry for the families of these people. Just is terrible. I need to call my dad now as I’m sure it will be the first thing out of his mouth. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, machine gun kelly said: Beast, I’m not speaking for the author of that comment, but for me, what we can control is how we raise our kids. I’ve preached love not hate, and I’d like to think a role model for my kids, compassion, and not tolerate their friends if they make crappy comments. I tried everyday to think about how I acted so they watch what you do, not necessarily what we say. Beyond that, for us it was church, Catholic and Christian school, and pray. I just don’t understand the hate without even knowing someone. I’m so sorry for the families of these people. Just is terrible. I need to call my dad now as I’m sure it will be the first thing out of his mouth. Kelly its the world we live in now withoaut getting into too much detail .......just too soon to talk about that stuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, K-9 said: Given his manifesto, there is no possible way a defense attorney can argue mental illness was the cause. It was a cold, pre-meditated, well planned attack carried out by a person in full control of his faculties. It will be interesting to see what kind of charges are brought in addition to the 10 counts of first degree murder and 3 counts of attempted first degree murder (as of now). Mental illness can take many forms. I have little doubt that this was a hate crime I also think it’s unlikely that this kid is “normal”. my best guess is he was “a bit off” for a long time. Then accessed neo fascist web pages and thought that he could be a hero for his right wing internet buddies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Prayers for the families, the people of Buffalo, and hopes that this tragedy unites rather than divides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 20 minutes ago, Warcodered said: does raise the question of if it was terrorism. Of course it was. RIP to those who were killed. Hope and prayers to those injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunninRebel37 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Heard the news…so sorry to hear. Hope y’all are safe and prayers to all those affected ✊🏽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 It's a shame the shooter isn't in the same condition as his victims. 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Death penalty needs to be used more often and fast tracked. There's no reason people like this need to be on the planet. 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Sad and senseless indeed. Prayers to all those affected. I have to wonder, if these things weren’t covered so extensively in the media (not that I blame the media one bit), would there be so many mass shootings? We live in a copycat society. The guy in New Zealand was literally live streaming his kills. There were mass shootings before, like the sniper on the University of Texas campus, but I remember these things really taking off after Columbine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Sad....hope everyone here is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 (edited) An outsider was trying to wreak havoc on our city It's a time to COME TOGETHER Edited May 14, 2022 by Buffalo716 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, frostbitmic said: It's a shame the shooter isn't in the same condition as his victims. They usually do that themselves; my dad always says he wishes they'd switch up the order. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Kind of hoping the victim’s families go all “A Time To Kill” on this scum. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Captain_Quint said: Sad....hope everyone here is ok. If we have any poster's that live in that area could you just pipe in to let us know you are ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Awful! What breaks in a person’s head to cause this to happen???? Prayers for the victims and their families and friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Death penalty needs to be used more often and fast tracked. There's no reason people like this need to be on the planet. Death penalty opinion aside, it absolutely makes sense for it to take time to happen since it's a state sanctioning the killing of a citizen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunninRebel37 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Man…the fact police “talked him into putting down his gun” further illustrates how race factors into this. A white supremacist murders 10 people, with 11 of the 13 people shot being black, and police talked him down? It’s a trip. I pray something positive comes from this 4 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Kind of hoping the victim’s families go all “A Time To Kill” on this scum. I have a feeling the Buffalo PD is whooping his ass right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Kind of hoping the victim’s families go all “A Time To Kill” on this scum. That movie had a terrible message. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, CSBill said: Awful! What breaks in a person’s head to cause this to happen???? Prayers for the victims and their families and friends. When it comes to hate like this, IMO it's taught. No one is born with it, regardless of who/what you hate it's a taught reaction. No good way to stop that either sadly. My best to anyone affected by this situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: It's a shame the shooter isn't in the same condition as his victims. It might be better that he surrendered. He might be part of a bigger group, and if not he might associate with more people of this type. There is much to learn. The legal system will put him away forever. Edited May 14, 2022 by Bob in STL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: That movie had a terrible message. Thanks. I’ll be quiet now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Sad and senseless indeed. Prayers to all those affected. I have to wonder, if these things weren’t covered so extensively in the media (not that I blame the media one bit), would there be so many mass shootings? We live in a copycat society. The guy in New Zealand was literally live streaming his kills. There were mass shootings before, like the sniper on the University of Texas campus, but I remember these things really taking off after Columbine. It doesn't matter what the news media covers. Hate is shared rampantly through social media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffbigalls Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 My hopes are for this to go thru the us district court and he ends up on the same path as Dylan roof as he should 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, jkeerie said: It doesn't matter what the news media covers. Hate is shared rampantly through social media. I meant social media too. Any medium that can broadcast these senseless acts to 330 million people, some idiot somewhere will see it and copy it and all it takes is one. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Just now, JayBaller10 said: I meant social media too. Any medium that can broadcast these senseless acts to 330 million people, some idiot somewhere will see it and copy it and all it takes is one. Social media is less informative than it is a forum. These incidents aren't really copied. People who hate enough will find an avenue to act on that hatred whether or not it's been done before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, RunninRebel37 said: Man…the fact police “talked him into putting down his gun” further illustrates how race factors into this. A white supremacist murders 10 people, with 11 of the 13 people shot being black, and police talked him down? It’s a trip. I pray something positive comes from this He should have been shot on the spot regardless of whether he put his gun down. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Social media is less informative than it is a forum. These incidents aren't really copied. People who hate enough will find an avenue to act on that hatred whether or not it's been done before. The idea has to originate somewhere, so in that sense it’s copied. Apparently this kid live streamed it on twitch and lists the New Zealand shooter as one of his heroes. I guess my point is, do you think we’d have so many of these shootings if they never got coverage? I know it’s an impossible question because it couldn’t happen, but people copy what they see. You’re right in that they’ll find a way to express that hatred, but I have no doubt they love the attention of these mass shootings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmu1977 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 This is so sad, how does an 18 year old kid get this screwed up that he drove all the way from Conklin to downtown Buffalo to shoot a bunch of strangers at a Tops. No way this happened in a a vacuum. I thought it was harder to get assault weapons in NY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, JayBaller10 said: The idea has to originate somewhere, so in that sense it’s copied. Apparently this kid live streamed it on twitch and lists the New Zealand shooter as one of his heroes. I guess my point is, do you think we’d have so many of these shootings if they never got coverage? I know it’s an impossible question because it couldn’t happen, but people copy what they see. You’re right in that they’ll find a way to express that hatred, but I have no doubt they love the attention of these mass shootings. Would we have less tornadoes if they weren’t covered by the news? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 it’s made our morning news. 😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 ***** this nazi. Rise up Buffalo 💜 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 55 minutes ago, Beast said: OK, so what is? they should have shot the *****. 4 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: The idea has to originate somewhere, so in that sense it’s copied. Apparently this kid live streamed it on twitch and lists the New Zealand shooter as one of his heroes. I guess my point is, do you think we’d have so many of these shootings if they never got coverage? I know it’s an impossible question because it couldn’t happen, but people copy what they see. You’re right in that they’ll find a way to express that hatred, but I have no doubt they love the attention of these mass shootings. they will find a way. If not media they will read books etc etc.......... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: The shooter traveled HOURS to do this....... I don't want to dive into the details from the news, did they say were he came from or no? Just curious what would make someone travel HOURS, to buffalo, of all places, to decide to do this. Edited May 14, 2022 by The Wiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Shamrock said: it’s made our morning news. 😔 This is not a representation of the City of Buffalo Our city has problems like all do... This is Not Who We are... It took an outsider to do this 2 our city 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, The Wiz said: I don't want to dive into the details from the news, did they say were he came from or no? Nothing yet. It’s just so odd. Why Buffalo? He likely passed Rochester and Syracuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 minute ago, The Wiz said: I don't want to dive into the details from the news, did they say were he came from or no? In the initial press conference they gave no details as law enforcement was investigating at his home and they did not want to forwarn any possible accomplices. More details will follow after his arraignment this evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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