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Oliver and Phillips, or whoever is playing DT.  Actually, any of the front 7 (including Johnson).

 

The Bills need to be able to stop the run. The Patriots and Jets are gearing up to have stout run games, probably realizing that is the Bills biggest weakness. The Colts and Titans made the Bills look like a DIV III team with their runs. One loss against an inferior opponent can mean the difference between being at home or away, or even making the playoffs. 

 

But if I have to narrow it down, it's mostly the guys in the middle of the D-line.

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10 hours ago, billsfanmiamioh said:

Groot

Totally agree, if Groot can break out this year combined with Miller and Oliver it will be amazing.  Opposing QB's will be running for their lives all day long.  

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9 hours ago, JayBaller10 said:

Edmunds. He’s around the ball a lot, he just rarely makes the game changing play. If he starts playing up to the potential we thought we were trading up to get, I think he’d have the biggest impact on defense not named Von Miller.


While I do agree he can be impactful more this year than even before potentially, I think this gets said too much above and that it’s not entirely accurate.  Not only is Edmunds 5th in the NFL in tackles since entering the league, but Edmunds is also 5th in the league at tackles for loss since entering the league.  I would consider TFL a pretty impactful play.  
 

IMHO because Edmunds doesn’t get “sacks” he gets this label that he doesn’t make important plays enough.  But he also plays off the ball a lot almost like a 3rd safety.  
 

So I still say I think what people are most disappointed in with Edmunds really is more about how he is used than his production.  Because he has the stats showing he makes a lot of plays.  

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3 hours ago, papazoid said:

tremaine edmunds

 

i'm expecting him to be bills MOST  IMPROVED player

 

#1 - these new DL will keep him clean

#2- these new DL will allow frazier to change edmunds TWO gap responsibility scheme down to 1 gap......eliminating him picking the wrong hole or the RB cutting back into the one he's not

#3- it's a contract year for him

 

(he's still young and the bills are playing him out of position.....hes not a thumping MLB)

That's for damn sure. ESPN stats: 70 solo tackles ( tied for 28th)  4 passes defended  1 int.( 108th). That's it.

That includes playoffs. CBSSports.com has complete game by game breakdown. IMO there's no way he's worth 12.7 this year and will likely be gone next year. It's been 4 yrs.

 

I'm willing to bet if we put Bernard out there, he'd put up better production. That 12.7 could get us (just as an example), a Quinton Spain, A.J. Klein and a vet CB.

 

Conversely K.C. 2nd rd. pick (rookie) Nick Bolton basically had identical stats. and stood out to me in the playoff game.

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White, Elam, Poyer, Hyde, Ed, Greg, Von, Diggs, Davis, Knox, Shnowman, Brown, Devon, and last but certainly not least, Josh Allen, those are our prime movers for this up coming season. 
 

There is zero doubt we will need stellar play from the O & D lines, and hope key draft selections shine in their first season. 
 

I got a good feeling about this upcoming season😁👍

 

Go Bills!!!

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3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Spencer Brown.  If he can anchor the right side of the line and be a force in pass protection, we’ll be unstoppable.  

I think he's gonna be very good as long as he stays healthy.

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10 hours ago, JayBaller10 said:

Edmunds. He’s around the ball a lot, he just rarely makes the game changing play. If he starts playing up to the potential we thought we were trading up to get, I think he’d have the biggest impact on defense not named Von Miller.

 

Edmunds was my pick too for the same reasons. Add a few big game-changing plays from him and its a +1 +2 in the win column which would get us home field advantage in the playoffs. Next up n defense for me is G-Root, then Elam if he can pick up the game speed and mental part of the defense quick enough. 

 

I also agree on the Spencer Brown comments. What Edmunds can do with improved play on the defense is akin to what a leap of play from Brown can do on the offense.  If we can run, call RPO's and have time in the pocket from our O-line, then they will be a step above dangerous.

 

Next up on offense is Cook. I know he's a rookie, but if he can do all those things that Devin can't, it will change the way defenses play against us, limit Josh's running and open up the field for the other guys to get favorable matchups.  I feel like Davis has already shown us what he can do, his leap of play may not be as large, it's just that he will get more opportunities to showcase that talent. 

 

My last player would be either a Bates/Boettger/Ford combo. If Bates continues to improve or one of the other 2 really improve it will solidify the weak link on the offensive line.  Bates especially, if he continue his ascent, he may be able to take over Morse's spot, providing that Ford, Boettger or another G can play consistently.  Morse's game is mostly mental now. His strength is not the same as it was in his prime and there were some big, bad boys in the middle of the DL that got push on him. consistently last year. 

 

All around, I'm the most excited I've been going into a season since the '90's. This roster is stacked. Our FO is solid and our coaching has been solid. The organization as a whole has been miraculous in turning around this franchise. I couldn't be happier and prouder of our Bills.

 

 

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McDermott

 

We have the best QB and roster in the league. Don't need anyone to break out. Coaches need to just not blow it.

 

Coaching has been terrible the past three playoffs (Hou, Kc, Kc). Hopefully he's learned from his mistakes.

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8 minutes ago, Process said:

McDermott is the only correct answer....

 

We have the best QB and roster in the league. Don't need anyone to break out. Coaches need to just not blow it.

 

Coaching has been terrible the past three playoffs (Hou, Kc, Kc). Hopefully he's learned from his mistakes.

 

Sounds like the old-school thing to say, but it's wrong.

 

How would McDermott even be measured as having a big year or breakout season after the Bills went 13-3 a few seasons ago?

 

This team has been on the cusp but never completely, complete. We've needed pop in the backfield, I'm not sure James Cook is that dude, but if he is and has a crazy season where he's contributing majorly on the ground, then I think he'll be the difference maker.

 

We of course couldn't take a backward step on defense for everything to work.

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4 minutes ago, BurpleBull said:

 

Sounds like the old-school thing to say, but it's wrong.

 

How would McDermott even be measured as having a big year or breakout season after the Bills went 13-3 a few seasons ago?

 

This team has been on the cusp but never completely, complete. We've needed pop in the backfield, I'm not sure James Cook is that dude, but if he is and has a crazy season where he's contributing majorly on the ground, then I think he'll be the difference maker.

 

We of course couldn't take a backward step on defense for everything to work.

We didn't lose to KC because of a lack of pop in the backfield...

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Rousseau or Oliver is my bet.

 

The latter kind of already has broke out but I think playing with a true force like Miller is really going to open things up for other guys on the DL overall and Oliver would be my guess to explode for a career year in terms of sack/pressure/etc. 

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1 minute ago, FilthyBeast said:

Rousseau or Oliver is my bet.

 

The latter kind of already has broke out but I think playing with a true force like Miller is really going to open things up for other guys on the DL overall and Oliver would be my guess to explode for a career year in terms of sack/pressure/etc. 

While I do agree with you regarding the DL in general, I would also add Edmunds.

 

If Edmunds can get that break out season that would also be a big factor

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4 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

While I do agree with you regarding the DL in general, I would also add Edmunds.

 

If Edmunds can get that break out season that would also be a big factor

 

My stance on Edmunds is probably well know but here's the problem I see with Edmunds magically breaking out in year 5.....there would be zero chance of resigning him because of what he'll command as an UFA coming off a contract year.

 

And if we do resign him to big money there's also a chance he regresses back to 2018 - 2021 Edmunds which would not be a good thing either.

 

I still think this is his last season in Buffalo either way but who really knows especially since we just drafted a guy that is more of a Milano clone which means we could choose to move on from him and keep Edmunds.

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If by by elevate we mean all pro productivity, I would say:

 

1. Edmunds- if he can finally break through and catch lightening in a bottle and perform like a Ray Lewis (without the murderin, sploosh) or a Patrick Willis, him shutting down the middle would be a huge help.

 

2. Groot- as explained by everyone else.

 

3. out of the gate? Elam. If he performs at a level close to what Tre did in his rookie year, all of those offseason WR pickups in our division would be rendered rather ineffective.

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4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Only read the first page but I’m going with Gabriel Davis. 

 

 

Yeah Davis is the answer.

 

People are just assuming that he's already there but he only put up about 35 yards per game last season before blowing up in the playoffs.

 

They probably need 1,100 yards from that WR2 spot just to match the 1,100+ split production of last year..........which frankly was something of a disappointment for the passing game,  with Allen falling to 6.7 yards per pass attempt.

 

That was primarily because of atrocious pass protection but also a lack of speed/yac in the WR corps.     They didn't exactly attack those issues with blue chip replacements but that was a choice.........so we should expect those issues to be fixed.

 

The bar is pretty high at WR in the NFL now.........Cinci has 2 1K+ WR's in Chase and Higgins and another over 800 in recent 1K producer Tyler Boyd.

 

The Bills should be back closer to 8 yards per pass attempt and around 5,000 yards passing for Allen and they aren't likely getting there without Gabe Davis becoming a second 1,000 yard receiver, IMO.    

 

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5 hours ago, papazoid said:

tremaine edmunds

 

i'm expecting him to be bills MOST  IMPROVED player

 

#1 - these new DL will keep him clean

#2- these new DL will allow frazier to change edmunds TWO gap responsibility scheme down to 1 gap......eliminating him picking the wrong hole or the RB cutting back into the one he's not

#3- it's a contract year for him

 

(he's still young and the bills are playing him out of position.....hes not a thumping MLB)

Good post

 

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4 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

My stance on Edmunds is probably well know but here's the problem I see with Edmunds magically breaking out in year 5.....there would be zero chance of resigning him because of what he'll command as an UFA coming off a contract year.

 

And if we do resign him to big money there's also a chance he regresses back to 2018 - 2021 Edmunds which would not be a good thing either.

 

I still think this is his last season in Buffalo either way but who really knows especially since we just drafted a guy that is more of a Milano clone which means we could choose to move on from him and keep Edmunds.

Well regardless of how that plays out in resigning or not, I'm just saying if he ends up having a "break out" type season. 

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1 hour ago, Process said:

McDermott

 

We have the best QB and roster in the league. Don't need anyone to break out. Coaches need to just not blow it.

 

Coaching has been terrible the past three playoffs (Hou, Kc, Kc). Hopefully he's learned from his mistakes.


To be fair, Levi Wallace took blame on behalf of the players and himself of losing focus on the field a bit coming off that high of the would even go ahead TD.  Almost impossible to put that on McD.  Coaching only takes you so far, players human real time emotions are not in his control. 
 

Additionally, what McD called on the kickoff was not executed and was a failure of his ST coach, who has since stepped down to make a lateral move to a lesser team as a result.  
 

I get the whole buck stops at the top philosophy, but there is only so much a coach can do before the execution falls on the hands of the players and coaches.  
 

For me, I hold the ST coach and then the players on the field much more accountable for what happened over that kickoff and those 13 seconds.  

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12 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

Isaiah Hodgins? If he gets significant playing time that means like 10 receivers are injured and the Bills are DOOMED. 😄

 

He's a 6'4" receiver with a huge catch radius, amazing hands (like elite) and reports out of the first part of his first camp was him and Davis were extremely impressive in terms of route running and grasping the offense as rookies.

 

He could be a huge asset as a red zone target if nothing else.

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