longtimebillsfan Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, Scorp83 said: Hello all…haven’t posted in while. But this just popped up on my phone & I’m curious on what the fans think about Gilmore coming back here??? Me personally, I wouldn’t really like it being how he left us…I feel like he don’t deserve to be part of our special team hahahaha like don’t come back now after we became great. (I was trying to post my screenshot but the website won’t let me) Don't like him. Don't want him. Not a process guy. He is a ME first, last, and always guy. Not good for our locker room. Fill the cornerback need through the draft. No thank you. No way. Hard pass. Edited April 4, 2022 by longtimebillsfan 2 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Thought more about it. If the Bills were really in it I don’t think we would’ve heard anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 41 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: Don't like him. Don't want him. Not a process guy. He is a ME first, last, and always guy. Not good for our locker room. Fill the cornerback need through the draft. No thank you. No way. Hard pass. But should we kick the tires? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: But should we kick the tires? Fill them with air and send him on his way. See ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, H2o said: I'd take Gilmore back if he wanted to come here on a team friendly deal in hopes of getting another ring. His play hasn't fallen off of a cliff like Norman's had and right now he's better than Levi Wallace was. Having both him and Tre, when Tre is healthy, on the boundaries would be awesome. He could also fill that #1 role in case Tre's recovery drags a few weeks into the season if need be. If this were to happen we would truly be going into the draft with no glaring holes whatsoever. 😄 does anyone here ever post that they want to sign someone to a non team friendly deal? after kicking the tires, of course Edited April 4, 2022 by nucci 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said: Don't like him. Don't want him. Not a process guy. He is a ME first, last, and always guy. Not good for our locker room. Fill the cornerback need through the draft. No thank you. No way. Hard pass. I thought the same when we traded for Diggs. I was wrong. You are really underestimating the leadership we have in our locker room. From the coaching staff to the players. He excelled at NE. If that's not a process environment, I don't know what is. This sounds more like personal feelings than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 9 hours ago, ndirish1978 said: Still a very good if declining talent with absolutely zero leadership or teammate skills. He's proven he's all about $ and talked trash about Buffalo on his way out. Yes, he played when we were a clownshow, but the shots were unwarranted. I'd 100% rather give up a mid-round pick to the Giants for Bradberry. I would LOVE to have Bradberry here!!! 😎👍🏾 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Pete said: Gilmore would be a fantastic signing for right deal. That would be great if we could sign CB 2 pre draft, fill all our holes. And then go BPA all day! It’s so interesting…because this thread is almost 50/50 …there’s some like yourself that would love the signing of it happen for the right price. Other’s like myself, feel even at the right price he’s not worth bringing back. I just feel like if he came back, he’s a little salty the way he left & nobody wouldn’t really embrace him again. He will kill the mindset we have in that locker room… now if we can somehow trade for Bradberry from the Giants. I would love that even more! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) I dont want to watch an opposing WR running into the endzone with Gilmore chasing him, to turn around with his arms up ever again. At least not in a Bills uniform......... Edited April 4, 2022 by 13 Second Prevent Defense 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 9 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I dont get fans obsession with players being "traitors", its a business and they are here to make money and win and thats what Gilmore did. If he can help us im all for it. When I read a post where someone calls a former Bill "disloyal" or a "traitor" because they took a better offer from another team, I immediately label that poster as a moron and dismiss most all of their opinions. It is one of the most idiotic things a fan could say. It's even dumber when it only applies if they go to the Pats*, Fins or some other team the poster has an issue with. If the former player really trashes the city of Buffalo or the fans after he leaves, then I can understand not liking the player. I despise Fred Smerlas. But not because he is a "traitor". Because he badmouths/badmouthed the Bills fans, and the city of Buffalo, when outside WNY, then sucks up to them when on WNY media. Still, if he were much younger and could still play and help the Bills, I'd take him back at the right price. Why not? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Scorp83 said: I would LOVE to have Bradberry here!!! 😎👍🏾 https://heavy.com/sports/buffalo-bills/aj-epenesa-james-bradberry-trade/ Not a bad idea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Scorp83 said: I would LOVE to have Bradberry here!!! 😎👍🏾 Spitballing and having fun. Trade Edmunds for 2022 mid 2nd and 5th Trade Epenesa + our 5th for Bradberry with retention Edmunds clears up cap space for Bradberry No pressing need for CB now Draft 1st Round…WR Jameson Williams, Christian Watson or Chris Olave MID 2nd received in trade…LB Troy Andersen 2nd Round pick 57 (maybe use 6th to trade up few spots)…RB Kenneth Walker 3rd Round pick 89…best OLine available 4th Round pick 129…Punter Matt Araiza Mid 5th received in trade…Safety, LB or developmental CB 6th Round if not traded..see above 6th Round again…see 5th round 7th Round….same 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Edmunds is a guy that I think people will miss when he’s gone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 6 hours ago, Dopey said: I thought the same when we traded for Diggs. I was wrong. You are really underestimating the leadership we have in our locker room. From the coaching staff to the players. He excelled at NE. If that's not a process environment, I don't know what is. This sounds more like personal feelings than anything else. You could be right. Not personal since I do not know Gilmore on a personal or any other level. Beane and McDermott have done a great job of building a group of players that puts team above self. In my very humble opinion, Gilmore does not appear to be that type of player. Also, his compensation would not fit under our cap. We need to get an upgrade from Wallace at a much lower compensation such as in the draft or a player on a "prove it" one year contract. If we want to keep Diggs for his next contract, we need to increase the number of contributing players on our roster with 4 or 5 year rookie contracts. That is just our current reality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 19 hours ago, Magnum Force said: Gilmore, Haden or Xavier Rhodes? Which one If the money is about the same give or take a mill or two obviously Gilmore, but I think the price difference would be significant 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Iamkrgr said: Edmunds is a guy that I think people will miss when he’s gone. Especially when the plan from some seems to be replace him with a rookie. We're all in this year. Let it play out. If we win the SB, they can do what they want, because I'll be able to die in peace. 🙏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, Dopey said: Especially when the plan from some seems to be replace him with a rookie. We're all in this year. Let it play out. If we win the SB, they can do what they want, because I'll be able to die in peace. 🙏 I honestly think Nakobe Dean would come in as a rookie and outplay him, because Dean has the instincts for football, though not a physical specimen like Edmonds. (But I want a top wr in the first, and if we don't go there, it will likely be cb, so the point is moot.) 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 You never know what the draft will give you. Gilmore is the best free agent CB available and we need a CB. If Beane can create the cap space, its a no brainer. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 I think there are better players out there & possibly in the draft that would be less expensive . Gilmore is a decent CB but you can depend on him getting beat & looking at someone else when he does . Last year was it when the Bills played the Panthers he got smoked by one of our WR's & in classic Gilmore form looked back at another player as to say it wasn't my fault where were you . I hope they go a different direction even though we do need a CB if he would play for vet minimum might be the only way i would say yes but i don't see that happening . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 10:27 AM, HOUSE said: This is very exciting, I already have the jersey and this will save me big bucks Edit: My wife said she threw it away, I am not buying another one so its best the Bills pass on Gilmore, its simple economics. I would never buy the same jersey twice. . If they ever bring back Terrence McGee, I am set! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 They said the bills were a poor tackling defense before. Gilmore says: Hold my beer! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 I bet he gets flagged for holding again if we sign him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I bet he gets flagged for holding again if we sign him. It's like having American Express when you play for NE. You lose that "card" when you leave the Pats. Membership has its privileges..😂 22 hours ago, Putin said: If the money is about the same give or take a mill or two obviously Gilmore, but I think the price difference would be significant You can make the argument Rhodes had the better season but I still think I'd take Gilmore over the other options. I wouldn't hate it if they acquired Rhodes. Haden for some reason doesn't move the meter for me. Gilmore Rhodes Haden In that order. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Gilmore is busted. Hard pass at whatever inflated price he's waiting for. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Airseven said: Gilmore is busted. Hard pass at whatever inflated price he's waiting for. Yes his health is definitely a concern does anyone know haw he did with the panthers ? Not sure how many games he played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 22 hours ago, Putin said: Yes his health is definitely a concern does anyone know haw he did with the panthers ? Not sure how many games he played. 8 games, 3 starts. 2 PBUs, 68% completion percentage, 2 TDs 2 INTs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 It feels like Gilmore is a really long shot now. It feels the Bills are going to draft their next CB. They also have two guys on the practice squad that will add to the depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: It feels like Gilmore is a really long shot now. It feels the Bills are going to draft their next CB. They also have two guys on the practice squad that will add to the depth. Don't be such a Doug Whaley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickveto Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 31 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: It feels like Gilmore is a really long shot now. It feels the Bills are going to draft their next CB. They also have two guys on the practice squad that will add to the depth. What makes you say he is a longshot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 33 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: It feels like Gilmore is a really long shot now. It feels the Bills are going to draft their next CB. They also have two guys on the practice squad that will add to the depth. I'm not sure how, if anything we have more capspace now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I'm not sure how, if anything we have more capspace now. Much better CBs on the market 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 51 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: It feels like Gilmore is a really long shot now. It feels the Bills are going to draft their next CB. They also have two guys on the practice squad that will add to the depth. Disagree. If anything, Gilmore (or another veteran cb) is much more likely to be signed than before the Diggs extension. When final contract #s come out, I bet Diggs’ cap hit will be decreased 10-13m this year. That 10-13m could easily pay for a cb, the draft picks while leaving some for inseason needs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Vickveto said: What makes you say he is a longshot? Not enough salary cap.Not enough salary cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: Not enough salary cap.Not enough salary cap. uhh we likely just freed up 8-10 million. The cap can almost always be manipulated/worked around Edited April 7, 2022 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Vickveto said: What makes you say he is a longshot? Hasn't Gilmore always been a longshot to re-sign? It's possible, but certainly doesn't seem likely, IMO. The Diggs contract probably plays a very small part in this, if any. But the Bills might have more cap space now. I think the only way Gilmore comes to the Bills is if Gilmore agrees to take less than he could make elsewhere. Seems like a longshot to me. But who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickveto Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Dean said: Hasn't Gilmore always been a longshot to re-sign? It's possible, but certainly doesn't seem likely, IMO. The Diggs contract probably plays a very small part in this, if any. But the Bills might have more cap space now. I think the only way Gilmore comes to the Bills is if Gilmore agrees to take less than he could make elsewhere. Seems like a longshot to me. But who knows? I just don’t think we have to pay him less we still have a couple more restructures we can do and I think we just cleared up about 10 million in Cap Space so if he really wants to come and not just using us for money leverage I honestly think we offer the best opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Vickveto said: I just don’t think we have to pay him less we still have a couple more restructures we can do and I think we just cleared up about 10 million in Cap Space so if he really wants to come and not just using us for money leverage I honestly think we offer the best opportunity. I don't think the Bills are about to pay Gilmore what he wants, unless he gives a discount, as he really doesn't seem like a culture fit. And #2 CB in the Bills defensive scheme isn't a position I'd throw a ton of money at. But unlike some, I have no problem drafting one in the late first round, or the second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Imagine the Bills pay Gilmore what he wants. Rachel Bush may go postal🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Imagine the Bills pay Gilmore what he wants. Rachel Bush may go postal🤣 imagine Beane extends Poyer and pays Gilmore…because he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Imagine the Bills pay Gilmore what he wants. Rachel Bush may go postal🤣 Nobody's gonna pay what he wants or he'd be signed already. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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