Stefon Diggs Tweet...What you make of it?

[CaliBills]

7 minutes ago, Aross3415 said:

Hope this is not true…

 

If he agrees to leave to play for the panthers just for the "business side" then he only cares about money.   And for him to say he loves people like a brother and convinces Miller to come here only to chase $$$$ then he basically talks out of his '@ss' 

Edited March 24, 2022 by CaliBills

[atlbillsfan1975]

10 minutes ago, Aross3415 said:

Hope this is not true…

If Beane did this I would trust his plan.

[Aross3415]

Just now, atlbillsfan1975 said:

If Beane did this I would trust his plan.

If he did accept t he trade I would think Mccaffrey might be involved in the trade… but I guess not… Then what trade for Metcalf if so or use that pick from panthers for a WR?? Would hate to see Diggs gone unless they have something big in the works…

[HappyDays]

13 minutes ago, Aross3415 said:

Hope this is not true…

 

Profile of the guy that posted it says "Parody account. Not a real journalist." Don't believe everything you see on Twitter.

[daz28]

2 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

He is the same age as hill. Both are 28. Jesus care to use any facts? 

I mean he will be 30 next year, so how is that not a fact?  I get it may look misleading, though, because his bday is late in the year.  

[oldmanfan]

2 hours ago, Aross3415 said:

Hope this is not true…

A blind tweet from where?

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

3 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Yet you bring up their contracts. Got it. 

Yep I would. 

30 mil a year for a WR who will be 30 in one year, no thanks. The Raider and Dolphins have some of the worst owners, GM’s and decision makers yea let’s follow their lead.

[BigAl2526]

Maybe a general observation about the anxiety and uncertainty with the roster adjustments that happen this time of year.

[BeastMode54]

that tweet is garbage. guy has 1400 followers. hes a nobody. made it up

[What a Tuel]

1 minute ago, BeastMode54 said:

that tweet is garbage. guy has 1400 followers. hes a nobody. made it up

 

agreed. Scared me for a second. Unless it came with a 1st round pick, mccaffrey and we traded for metcalf or another top wr, no way. Also would miss the Allen/Diggs chemistry.

Edited March 25, 2022 by What a Tuel

[nucci]

12 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Profile of the guy that posted it says "Parody account. Not a real journalist." Don't believe everything you see on Twitter.

but it's the internet, it has to be true

[Rigotz]

12 hours ago, Aross3415 said:

Hope this is not true…

Honestly, that’s a pretty fair offer….

[BarleyNY]

11 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

30 mil a year for a WR who will be 30 in one year, no thanks. The Raider and Dolphins have some of the worst owners, GM’s and decision makers yea let’s follow their lead.

Y’all need to look at some facts: Adams and Hill aren’t getting $30M a year either, unless they play out their deals.  Adams is getting an AAV of $22.5M for the next 3 years and Hill am AAV of $23.7M over the next 4 years.  Spotrac article.

 

Diggs is in the last two seasons of a $14.4 AAV deal.  The cash remaining is $13.5M and $13.7M.  I’m sure he’s looking in the $20M-$22.5M AAV range for years he will realistically be playing for an extension.  The Bills could do a four year extension with a big signing bonus and a couple huge salaries he will never see at the end.  That would lower his 2022 cap hit and everyone here would call Beane a magician.

 

IMO the odds that Diggs plays on this deal in 2022 are slim to none.  The Hill deal hurts.  It is better than the Adams deal and Adams is WR1 in the NFL.  Hill and Diggs are both arguably top 5.  I thinks Diggs gets a deal that pays him $80M-$88M over four years to stay.  That or we have to ship him off for picks because O can’t believe that he is playing this year on his current deal.

Edited March 25, 2022 by BarleyNY
Math

[MAJBobby]

11 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

30 mil a year for a WR who will be 30 in one year, no thanks. The Raider and Dolphins have some of the worst owners, GM’s and decision makers yea let’s follow their lead.

Ahhh not the using the agent numbers to come up with your stance. The reality is hill is a 3 year 75M deal. 25M a year. And YES I would do that for the WR that turned Josh into Josh. 

[cv05]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

Ahhh not the using the agent numbers to come up with your stance. The reality is hill is a 3 year 75M deal. 25M a year. And YES I would do that for the WR that turned Josh into Josh. 

 

Josh turned Josh into Josh. Diggs is great, but to put this entire teams success on anything but Josh Allen is off base. I would just consider ourselves lucky Beane and McClown didn't get their wish and draft Darnold. 

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

Ahhh not the using the agent numbers to come up with your stance. The reality is hill is a 3 year 75M deal. 25M a year. And YES I would do that for the WR that turned Josh into Josh. 

If we can do it without losing Knox & Oliver, ok.  This team is basically “as is” for the next 3 years, plus draft picks and some rearranging of one year deal guys.  
 

Ill admit that I’m not entirely comfortable paying him that money though.. As I said earlier, and it may be a function of our offense, I haven’t seen him take over games like the other elite WR’s.   
 

When’s the last time he’s done that?.. Steelers two years ago?

[MAJBobby]

9 minutes ago, cv05 said:

 

Josh turned Josh into Josh. Diggs is great, but to put this entire teams success on anything but Josh Allen is off base. I would just consider ourselves lucky Beane and McClown didn't get their wish and draft Darnold. 

Have we seen THIS version of Josh without Diggs?  Yes or No?

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

If we can do it without losing Knox & Oliver, ok.  This team is basically “as is” for the next 3 years, plus draft picks and some rearranging of one year deal guys.  
 

Ill admit that I’m not entirely comfortable paying him that money though.. As I said earlier, and it may be a function of our offense, I haven’t seen him take over games like the other elite WR’s.   
 

When’s the last time he’s done that?.. Steelers two years ago?

Yes we can extend Diggs and Still pay Knox and Oliver. 
 

out of the Three though Diggs SHOULD be the priority

[SCBills]

5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Have we seen THIS version of Josh without Diggs?  Yes or No?

Yes we can extend Diggs and Still pay Knox and Oliver. 
 

out of the Three though Diggs SHOULD be the priority

Id honestly put Knox as the priority of the 3, but yea, I’m sure it can get done and keep all of them… where we’d need to get creative is to keep Edmunds (which I don’t care, but I believe our FO very much would attempt to get done).  

[cv05]

10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Have we seen THIS version of Josh without Diggs?  Yes or No?

Yes we can extend Diggs and Still pay Knox and Oliver. 
 

out of the Three though Diggs SHOULD be the priority

Yes. Diggs was invisible in the playoffs (10 targets and 6 catches, 67 yards over 2 games) and Josh put together the best offensive performance ever against NE, and the best clutch performance I've ever seen in sports against KC. What the team at large and more specifically the coaching staff did to Allen was criminal.

 

I don't associate anything about this losing franchise with Josh.

[MAJBobby]

7 minutes ago, cv05 said:

Yes. Diggs was invisible in the playoffs (10 targets and 6 catches, 67 yards over 2 games) and Josh put together the best offensive performance ever against NE, and the best clutch performance I've ever seen in sports against KC. What the team at large and more specifically the coaching staff did to Allen was criminal.

 

I don't associate anything about this losing franchise with Josh.

And in the 17 games to Help Bills get to Playoffs

 

you think Davis has the production he did in KC without Diggs in the other side?  Really people?  
 

We finally have a QB and modern offense and some fans here want to trade the QBs best friend and elite WR. 
 

can never have good things with some of this fan base. 

Edited March 25, 2022 by MAJBobby

[cv05]

13 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

And in the 17 games to Help Bills get to Playoffs

 

you think Davis has the production he did in KC without Diggs in the other side?  Really people?  
 

We finally have a QB and modern offense and some fans here want to trade the QBs best friend and elite WR. 
 

can never have good things with some of this fan base. 

Diggs is great. I don't want him to leave. I just believe Josh is the reason for success, it has very little to do with Diggs.

[MAJBobby]

Just now, cv05 said:

Diggs is great. I don't want him to leave. I just believe Josh is the reason for success, it has very little to do with Diggs.

Based off what?  Have you seen Josh or our other WRs play at the level they are without Diggs? 

[cv05]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

Based off what?  Have you seen Josh or our other WRs play at the level they are without Diggs? 

My eyes. Josh looked good in year 2 without Diggs. He would make throws I had never seen a Bills QB make (I'm post-Kelly). I was sold after year 2 and have only become more convinced of that since.

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, cv05 said:

My eyes. Josh looked good in year 2 without Diggs. He would make throws I had never seen a Bills QB make (I'm post-Kelly). I was sold after year 2 and have only become more convinced of that since.

OK then Why did he not put up those numbers we seen in 2020 and 2021 without Diggs?

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, cv05 said:

Yes. Diggs was invisible in the playoffs (10 targets and 6 catches, 67 yards over 2 games) and Josh put together the best offensive performance ever against NE, and the best clutch performance I've ever seen in sports against KC. What the team at large and more specifically the coaching staff did to Allen was criminal.

 

I don't associate anything about this losing franchise with Josh.

Defensively teams were taking Diggs away giving CB help. This allowed #2 WR to eat. Davis was at Golden Corral because of this 😎

[SCBills]

14 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

OK then Why did he not put up those numbers we seen in 2020 and 2021 without Diggs?

Diggs helps.  Weapons help.   One of the weapons doesn’t need to be Diggs, although most of us hope one is. 
 

I think you’re shortchanging Allen… a lot. 
 

Look at that KC game.  Sure, Diggs helps open up Davis, but so could a Jameson Williams, Chris Olave, Jahan Dotson etc… or Davis open things up for them.  
 

Diggs was a huge move to help Allen in his growth from a raw QB with all the talent in the world, to perhaps the best QB in the world.  That being said, it has way more to do with Allen’s talent/work ethic than it does Stefon Diggs.  
 

You need an OL and weapons.  If we were to trade Diggs, I’d advocate using our 25 AND the highest pick we get back from the trade on WR’s.  Re-sign Bates. Use our RD2 on OL.  Maybe even use our third, plus the extra pick(s) from the Diggs trade in a trade up for a high impact RB.  Use the freed up Diggs money on Gilmore or Bradberry. 

 

Edited March 25, 2022 by SCBills

[MAJBobby]

4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Diggs helps.  Weapons help.   One of the weapons doesn’t need to be Diggs, although most of us hope one is. 
 

I think you’re shortchanging Allen… a lot. 
 

Look at that KC game.  Sure, Diggs helps open up Davis, but so could a Jameson Williams, Chris Olave, Jahan Dotson etc… or Davis open things up for them.  
 

Diggs was a huge move to help Allen in his healthy from a raw QB with all the talent in the world, to perhaps the best QB in the world.  That being said, it has way more to do with Allen’s talent/work ethic than it goes Stefon Diggs.  
 

You need an OL and weapons.  If we were to trade Diggs, I’d advocate using our 25 AND the highest pick we get back from the trade on WR’s.  Re-sign Bates. Use our RD2 on OL.  Maybe even use our third, plus the extra pick(s) from the Diggs trade in a trade up for a high impact RB.  Use the freed up Diggs money on Gilmore or Bradberry. 

 

Could they???  So you are willing to trade your QBs best friend and the Offensive No1 Weapon for an unknown?  When your SB window is wide open?

 

And would rather use the Weapons Money on a CB?  That is not how you build teams in todays NFL.  The NO 1 rated Pass Defense was TORCHED in the playoffs at KC.

 

Thank god we had Diggs drawing coverage and allowing Davis to eat.  Makes no Sense.  

 

Extend Diggs, dont care what the extension "looks" like, in the end will be something like 3 years 75-80M contract.  (that frees up the space to well Resign Bates, and Bradberry or Gilmore and you can still use your 2nd (i wouldnt) on OL.

 

And I think you are shortchanging what Diggs forces Defenses to do, and how that impacts the other players on the offense ALOT.

Edited March 25, 2022 by MAJBobby

[SCBills]

10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Could they???  So you are willing to trade your QBs best friend and the Offensive No1 Weapon for an unknown?  When your SB window is wide open?

 

And would rather use the Weapons Money on a CB?  That is not how you build teams in todays NFL.  The NO 1 rated Pass Defense was TORCHED in the playoffs at KC.

 

Thank god we had Diggs drawing coverage and allowing Davis to eat.  Makes no Sense.  

 

Extend Diggs, dont care what the extension "looks" like, in the end will be something like 3 years 75-80M contract.  (that frees up the space to well Resign Bates, and Bradberry or Gilmore and you can still use your 2nd (i wouldnt) on OL.

I’ll assume we’re matching Bates offer sheet either way for argument sake..  I would not be worried if Diggs/25/57 turned into say..

 

WR Jahan Dotson (25)

WR Chris Olave (Diggs Pick)

OG Darian Kinnard (57)

RB Kenneth Walker (89 + Diggs Return)

CB Stephon Gilmore (Diggs cap space)

 

Edited March 25, 2022 by SCBills

[MAJBobby]

9 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I’ll assume we’re matching Bates offer sheet either way for argument sake..  I would not be worried if Diggs/25/57 turned into say..

 

WR Jahan Dotson (25)

WR Chris Olave (Diggs Pick)

OG Darian Kinnard (57)

RB Kenneth Walker (89 + Diggs Return)

CB Stephon Gilmore (Diggs cap space)

 

So one Known top WR for 2 unkowns and a RB (that is traded up for) - Nah I will stick with the Known in the year that SHOULD bring home a Trophy.

[SCBills]

12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

So one Known top WR for 2 unkowns and a RB (that is traded up for) - Nah I will stick with the Known in the year that SHOULD bring home a Trophy.

Im simply operating under compare/contrast with Diggs and our high picks vs traded picks for him and cap space from him.   
 

Yea, I’m good with an offense that looks like this:

 

Allen/Keenum

Dawkins/Doyle

Saffold/Bates

Morse/Bates

Kinnard/Bates

Brown/Doyle

 

Dotson/McKenzie

Olave/Crowder

Davis/Kumerow

 

Knox/Howard

 

Walker/Singletary/Johnson

 

With Gilmore at CB2 on an absolutely loaded defense. 
 

*Diggs is not Hill.  We’re not losing a guy who changes the entire dynamics in the history of NFL of how you defend someone.  Diggs is elite, he’s not never before seen.  We were VERY aware of Tyreek Hill in the Playoffs game and still couldn’t stop him. 

[PonyBoy]

1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Defensively teams were taking Diggs away giving CB help. This allowed #2 WR to eat. Davis was at Golden Corral because of this 😎

 

Give Davis a little more credit than that. He made several gourmet meal catches, not buffet variety. 

[NoSaint]

2 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Could they???  So you are willing to trade your QBs best friend and the Offensive No1 Weapon for an unknown?  When your SB window is wide open?

 

And would rather use the Weapons Money on a CB?  That is not how you build teams in todays NFL.  The NO 1 rated Pass Defense was TORCHED in the playoffs at KC.

 

Thank god we had Diggs drawing coverage and allowing Davis to eat.  Makes no Sense.  

 

Extend Diggs, dont care what the extension "looks" like, in the end will be something like 3 years 75-80M contract.  (that frees up the space to well Resign Bates, and Bradberry or Gilmore and you can still use your 2nd (i wouldnt) on OL.

 

And I think you are shortchanging what Diggs forces Defenses to do, and how that impacts the other players on the offense ALOT.

 

to be fair, that they are besties doesn’t effect my calculus much. 
 

if we got the right offer, surely I would be open. Diggs is very good though, so it’d have to be premium. We just watched the pack do this as a super bowl favorite in the nfc and kc do it. If you trust hitting on the pick, it’s a good option. 

[nucci]

4 hours ago, cv05 said:

Diggs is great. I don't want him to leave. I just believe Josh is the reason for success, it has very little to do with Diggs.

that's incorrect

[Rockpile233]

It would honestly depend on the return for me. At first thought it seems insane to trade your #1 with established chemistry with Allen. 
 

Diggs frustrated me last season though. He seemed to give up on plays and lobby for a flag early instead of continuing to fight for the ball. Cost him both the catch and any potential flag. They don’t want you waving your arms for a flag before the ball even gets to you. Bothered me a lot last season and I partially blame the Tampa loss on that alone.

 

I still doubt they’d get a good enough return, but we’ll see.

[Success]

I vote either:   last season of "Game of Thrones," or trying to decide between wings or a garbage plate.

 

[george c]

In Beane, I trust.

if not this draft, the next one will bring in new WR talent in the 1st. 

[Mark Vader]

I cannot believe the things I am reading in this thread.

 

Forget Edmunds, Moss and Knox, it is very clear that Diggs is the new whipping boy of TBD. 

[TBBills]

Just now, Mark Vader said:

I cannot believe the things I am reading in this thread.

 

Forget Edmunds, Moss and Knox, it is very clear that Diggs is the new whipping boy of TBD. 

He is just stuck in the moment of bad teams paying huge for WRs. 

[cba fan]

42 minutes ago, TBBills said:

He is just stuck in the moment of bad teams paying huge for WRs. 

many players can not see the market forces.

 

many also forget the restructures accelerating money to their bank accounts.

 

but aside from all that, Diggs contract needs a redo to help both him and team. Beane said he would do it soon. Not clear when.

Edited March 25, 2022 by cba fan

[Punching Bag]

23 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Profile of the guy that posted it says "Parody account. Not a real journalist." Don't believe everything you see on Twitter.

 

Twitter is more fun for twits if you believe everything.