Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 https://nfltraderumors.co/titans-releasing-g-rodger-saffold/ Titans clear $10M in cap by cutting Saffold. He had a cap hit of $12.35M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 It's one year, not two per the Bills 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Very good OG. and an upgrade to Daryll Williams as OG. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Beane loves his old free agents. GO BILLS!!! Free agency is how Beane fills holes. Saffold is a great hole filler. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, Process said: Woah! Will wait for the numbers before judging the signing. He will be 34yo next season. Not sure an aging guard is the best guy to give big money too.... It didn’t say anything about “big money” though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie's Bills Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, Process said: It's one year, not two per the Bills Maybe like the Sanders deal with a voided 2nd year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mij yllek Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 with conditioning training, nutrition regimes and the like 34 isn't old anymore...see T. Brady. J. Jagr, A. Wainwright etc. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Logic said: I know he's a "name" and that he's worked with Kromer before, but he's aging and declining. I'll wait to see the contract numbers before I form an opinion. I doubt he'll be worse than Williams. He also doesn't count against the compensatory pick formula because he was a cut player, so there's that. The numbers will be key. I’d venture to say that Beane somehow paid 11-12m aav. If it is, I hope it’s only 11-12 gtd. edit: 1 year deal….would be nice to see that number under 10M but expecting 11-13 Edited March 14, 2022 by NewEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mikie's Bills said: Good to very good run blocker. Below average in pass protection at this point in his career. Right. That is sort of what I got. I get we have to run the ball better. But if I have to choose between the pass blocker or the run blocker, and I pay my QB $45M+, I’m taking the pass blocker. 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: You've captured my concerns concisely. I don't think Saffold is That Guy any more. On the other hand...he started his career 12 years ago as a LT, and has played RG and LG. So there's that. I know we didn’t like the Williams contract. But 12th highest paid OG in the league is trending towards average and we got that production out of him. My initial thought is I would have preferred to maybe extend Williams and up his guaranteed money to lower his cap hit rather than pay a premium for Saffold. There’s also a strong possibility I am an idiot. So who can really say who is right and who isn’t? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Doesn't stop the Bills from drafting a guard. I'm good with this signing. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 There is one Kromer guy. Could see more. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, GunnerBill said: Ugh. yeah wasn't this the guy you didn't want them to sign, i thought i read that in another thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, NewEra said: The numbers will be key. I’d venture to say that Beane somehow paid 11-12m aav. If it is, I hope it’s only 11-12 gtd. If we're paying 12M for a 34 year-old-guard...yeesh. I hope it's less than that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: 👃 Smells like a 1 year deal with a 2nd added to lower the cap number 👃 Probably drafting a young guy to hopefully replace him by then too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, Mark Long Beach said: Old, but plays well. $$ is what matters. no, his ability to play guard matters 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 This is the one thing I questioned when Kromer came back. Does his return indicate a desire to run the football more? The signing of Saffold sure makes you wonder, and if so I'm not a huge fan of that philosophy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Repeat what I said when TEN cut him. 1. Never been a huge fan of his, think he has been overrated and overpaid most of his career; 2. He definitely is on the decline; 3. He has some history with Kromer so that helps the adjustment; 4. I hope it is a cheap deal. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie's Bills Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Mango said: Right. That is sort of what I got. I get we have to run the ball better. But if I have to choose between the pass blocker or the run blocker, and I pay my QB $45M+, I’m taking the pass blocker. I know we didn’t like the Williams contract. But 12th highest paid OG in the league is trending towards average and we got that production out of him. My initial thought is I would have preferred to maybe extend Williams and up his guaranteed money to lower his cap hit rather than pay a premium for Saffold. There’s also a strong possibility I am an idiot. So who can really say who is right and who isn’t? He's probably a negligible upgrade from Williams talent wise. But the FO is banking on him being a better fit for their scheme. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 I’ll reserve final judgement until I see the numbers… 34 years old so hope it’s a cheap deal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBills51 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, buffblue said: This is the one thing I questioned when Kromer came back. Does his return indicate a desire to run the football more? The signing of Saffold sure makes you wonder, and if so I'm not a huge fan of that philosophy Unless this signifies we are going to make a move for a running back. Doubtful but Saffold is not known to be a strong pass blocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, MAJBobby said: I think they will make him the LG and Bates and others will fight for that RG spot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, billybob71 said: yeah wasn't this the guy you didn't want them to sign, i thought i read that in another thread Yea I said I was okay with him as a dust settles type guy once the price came down if he didn't find an immediate taker. Jumping on his early is not what I'd have done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, Aussie Joe said: I’ll reserve final judgement until I see the numbers… 34 years old so hope it’s a cheap deal everyone says the same thing on every signing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) scroll down to the penalties secton, one thing I like is a lots of snaps, not many fouls, 6-5 325 pounder, former tackle https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SaffRo20.htm update: per team its a one-year deal amt is TBD update: per Joe B quote - Athletic - Saffold says plan right now is to play left guard - which is where Bates played well down the stretch... Edited March 14, 2022 by First Round Bust 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 There you go. Sign Bates and we’re good to go 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Rams made the super bowl with a 56 year old LT……34 is the new 29 in the NFL. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mij yllek Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) Bonus...Asia Saffold... Now Kim won't be the only Asian. Edited March 14, 2022 by Mij yllek 1 3 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 I like it, could love it depending on the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) What I love about this signing.... good run-blocker last year, ranking 11th at his position with a 76.1 PFF run-blocking grade. Here is your upgrade to the Short yardage blocking and run blocking over all. And because he as Cut doesnt against the compensatory formula. Edited March 14, 2022 by MAJBobby 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 He is unequivocally an upgrade over both of the players we released. I don't understand anyone complaining about a 1 yr deal 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mango said: Right. That is sort of what I got. I get we have to run the ball better. But if I have to choose between the pass blocker or the run blocker, and I pay my QB $45M+, I’m taking the pass blocker. I know we didn’t like the Williams contract. But 12th highest paid OG in the league is trending towards average and we got that production out of him. My initial thought is I would have preferred to maybe extend Williams and up his guaranteed money to lower his cap hit rather than pay a premium for Saffold. There’s also a strong possibility I am an idiot. So who can really say who is right and who isn’t? OK I will say this....Saffold as Not That Guy any more could still be way better than Williams at RG 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Good veteran to have next to Spencer Brown keep him in check so he doesn’t get too wild out there. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Logic said: If we're paying 12M for a 34 year-old-guard...yeesh. I hope it's less than that. I’m just going by Beanes history with Free agents. Always seems to pay more than I’d like. Edited March 14, 2022 by NewEra 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: What I love about this signing.... good run-blocker last year, ranking 11th at his position with a 76.1 PFF run-blocking grade. The Bills are a passing team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, ndirish1978 said: He is unequivocally an upgrade over both of the players we released. I don't understand anyone complaining about a 1 yr deal Is that what it is? Oof. I bet they tack on a "void year" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, wppete said: Good veteran to have next to Spencer Brown keep him in check so he doesn’t get too wild out there. I don’t think he’d be next to brown….hasnt he always played LG since moving inside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: OK I will say this....Saffold as Not That Guy any more could still be way better than Williams at RG That's exactly how I see it. DWill is best at RT. We have an RT now. Saffold is an upgrade to DWill, and doesnt stop us from drafting a Guard either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, NewEra said: I’m just going by Beanes history with Free agents. Always seems to pay more than I’d like. That's the truth about FA. Everyone overpays for them. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: OK I will say this....Saffold as Not That Guy any more could still be way better than Williams at RG I think he is probably better than some of our guard play last year. But not appreciably so at this stage of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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