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DK + Deshaun = oh baby

4 minutes ago, nucci said:

So they could be going after him or could not....they could be interested or are not.....

They are interested but can’t do anything until his legal stuff is resolved. Friday is a big day. 
 

 

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Just now, H2o said:

Trade Wilson, who is a top 10 QB with a squeaky clean image, to go after a top 10 QB in Watson who is a degenerate and you aren't certain if he'll ever play again? Makes sense. 

They won’t trade for him if his legal issue isn’t resolved. That said Russ wanted out, so they aren’t willingly swapping the images. If they can get a younger Watson plus that haul they got for Russ… 

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1 minute ago, teef said:

i think i heard that watson's case will go in front of a grand jury this friday.  i'm not sure how long after his issues could be resolved, but i assume it's a big step.

 

It is. We should know by the end of the month what, if any, criminal charges he'll have to face.

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7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

They won’t trade for him if his legal issue isn’t resolved. That said Russ wanted out, so they aren’t willingly swapping the images. If they can get a younger Watson plus that haul they got for Russ… 

 

They'll be handing over that haul and then some for Watson.

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3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

They won’t trade for him if his legal issue isn’t resolved. That said Russ wanted out, so they aren’t willingly swapping the images. If they can get a younger Watson plus that haul they got for Russ… 

 

Watson is 26 (6 years younger than Wilson) and an undeniable talent. If he survives his legal issues and actually plays for the Seahawks, it could end up being a great reboot for both Watson and the Seahawks

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2 minutes ago, teef said:

i think i heard that watson's case will go in front of a grand jury this friday.  i'm not sure how long after his issues could be resolved, but i assume it's a big step.

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While a decision on criminal charges could come as early as Friday, Watson will face several days of depositions in the 22 pending civil cases, as each of the plaintiff's in those cases can question him for up to two hours, Hardin said.

"Once the grand jury process is concluded we intend for him to start answering questions in depositions," Hardin said.

From the schefter link above.

 

seems like once the criminal stuff is done it is going to ramp up the trade stuff soon 

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8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

They won’t trade for him if his legal issue isn’t resolved. That said Russ wanted out, so they aren’t willingly swapping the images. If they can get a younger Watson plus that haul they got for Russ… 

We shall see. I'm still in the line of thought that Watson will be out this entire year as well, with his overall future in doubt NFL wise. I have a feeling we will see some criminal charges in the next month or so.

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From a talent/age perspective... Watson >>> Russ

 

If this happens, good.. Finally get a good QB over to the NFC to compete with cakewalk Rodgers.

 

Although, we saw Kyler look incompetent at times without Hopkins.  In the one year post-Hopkins in Houston, Watson didn't exactly look very good - He put up most of his numbers in garbage time. 

 

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I'm one to believe in rehabilitiation, and generally becoming a better person etc.  

 

But this guy has done nothing but deny he did the things that he very likely did.  I know he basically has to until everything is settled, but you can't just hide behind a statement and hope it all goes away.  If and when this is all settled he definitely needs to make it known and obvious that - whatever happened happened, and I'm going to be a better human going forward because of it.  I'm not sure how to rehab his his image and stuff, but thats on him.  

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

DK + Deshaun = oh baby

They are interested but can’t do anything until his legal stuff is resolved. Friday is a big day. 
 

 

 

 

Big day in deed.

 

How much is riding on this for this guy?

 

I'd be crazy stressed out if I were him.

 

He should go out and get a nice relaxing massa...

 

 

 

 

 

 

...he should do some yoga.

 

 

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30 minutes ago, LeviF said:

 

It is. We should know by the end of the month what, if any, criminal charges he'll have to face.

 

I think we all know he won't be facing any criminal charge$.

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4 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I think we all know he won't be facing any criminal charge$.

 

I think the fact that the attorney bringing the civil claims rejected an attempt to delay the civil deposition until Monday suggests that he is worried how well the complainants will stand up to the Grand Jury scrutiny. 

 

That is somewhat supposition, and he may well have other reasons, but I would speculate he thinks his one chance to get Watson into a deposition is this week. 

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59 minutes ago, H2o said:

Trade Wilson, who is a top 10 QB with a squeaky clean image, to go after a top 10 QB in Watson who is a degenerate and you aren't certain if he'll ever play again? Makes sense. 

If your "top 10" (debatable) QB doesn't want to stay, has a ring and made plenty of $ probably wise to seek a trade for him and the Seahawks got good value. The Seahawks or any team is only going to seal a deal IF and when he is cleared of criminal charges.  Seahawks have never been afraid to take and or standby image risky players.

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17 minutes ago, SCBills said:

From a talent/age perspective... Watson >>> Russ

 

If this happens, good.. Finally get a good QB over to the NFC to compete with cakewalk Rodgers.

 

Although, we saw Kyler look incompetent at times without Hopkins.  In the one year post-Hopkins in Houston, Watson didn't exactly look very good - He put up most of his numbers in garbage time. 

 

What?  The Texans roster sucked.  He had Brandon Cooks, Will Fuller and old ass Randall Cobb for god's sakes.  And in spite of that subpar talent, he was all the Texans had, and had them on the losing end of 8 one score games, which is incredible. 

 

In 5 of 8 of those one score games, he had the Texans tied, or in the lead in the 4th quarter.  In two more of those games, they were trailing by 4 or fewer points in the 4th quarter.   One went to OT.    

 

Further, most of those one score games were high scoring games.  And, he completed over 70% of his passes, lead the league in yardage, had 36 total TD's (33 passing) and only 7 INT's, and added an additional 444 yards rushing, and a pro bowl selection.  

 

He arguably had one of the best season's of anyone in the league, especially considering the crappy talent around him.

 

I'm not a Deshaun Watson apologist by any means, but he certainly didn't put up most of his numbers in garbage time.

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2 minutes ago, Lv-Bills said:

What?  The Texans roster sucked.  He had Brandon Cooks, Will Fuller and old ass Randall Cobb for god's sakes.  And in spite of that subpar talent, he was all the Texans had, and had them on the losing end of 8 one score games, which is incredible. 

 

In 5 of 8 of those one score games, he had the Texans tied, or in the lead in the 4th quarter.  In two more of those games, they were trailing by 4 or fewer points in the 4th quarter.   One went to OT.    

 

Further, most of those one score games were high scoring games.  And, he completed over 70% of his passes, lead the league in yardage, had 36 total TD's (33 passing) and only 7 INT's, and added an additional 444 yards rushing, and a pro bowl selection.  

 

He arguably had one of the best season's of anyone in the league, especially considering the crappy talent around him.

 

I'm not a Deshaun Watson apologist by any means, but he certainly didn't put up most of his numbers in garbage time.

Did he really?  At 4-12?

 

Yes you can spin it that way.

 

You are what your record says you are, especially for a QB in a QB driven league.  The Texans won exactly as many games with Davis Mills/Tyrod Taylor as they did the year before with Deshaun Watson with JJ Watt.  Simple undeniable facts.

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

From the schefter link above.

 

seems like once the criminal stuff is done it is going to ramp up the trade stuff soon 

 

Plaintiff's attorneys must be waiting for the grand jury to indict before they get their teeth into him for those civil depositions...

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

DK + Deshaun = oh baby

They are interested but can’t do anything until his legal stuff is resolved. Friday is a big day. 
 

 

Just getting to the Grand Jury.  Jeez Redwoods grow faster than this case progresses..

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23 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Plaintiff's attorneys must be waiting for the grand jury to indict before they get their teeth into him for those civil depositions...

Nope…reportedly the depositions are going forward and Watson will plead the fifth…meaning that he’s totally screwed in the civil cases.

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