Cole Beasley given permission to seek trade

[Hapless Bills Fan]

12 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Forgot about the roster bonus.  So agree it will happen soon then!  And yes doubt he'd take the large pay cut, if he was open to it then likely never would have allowed him to look for a trade.

 

But what if in trying to find a trade teams all tell him yes we'd love to have you but only at $3 mil a year.  Would he then think different about going back to Bills at less money?

 

Well, IDK how players and agents really look at it. 

 

How I would look at it, assuming that Beasley still wants to play for a few years (he says he's an 'adrenaline junkie') is that Beasley had $6.1 cash coming from the Bills this year, but this is the last year of his contract.  What duration of contract will the other team offer?  If they offer him a 3 year deal for $9M, let's say this year $1M guaranteed salary and a $5M signing bonus amortized over 3 years, Beasley gets $6M cash this year with the possibility of more $ to come, especially if he can lobby for some guaranteed $$ next year.  So that's a break-even for Beas cash-wise or, if he can negotiate some guaranteed $$ maybe even a raise. 

 

But meanwhile the other team is paying him $3M/yr and in fact, has a cap hit of only $2.67M this year.

 

I think the Bills ship sailed

[Hapless Bills Fan]

11 hours ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

 

 

 

 

It's kind of lame, frankly, if he's got a story why not just break it?

[TheFunPolice]

Cole yesterday after all these signings: "give me the damn shot!"

[MAJBobby]

Beasley has 3 days to take the pay cut, find a trade partner or be cut.  That is the reality with him.

[DCofNC]

Would like to see Beas back, but I’m guessing he’s going to have to play ball to be on the roster by EOW.  Hopefully, he gets it, he’s not going to get a better situation or shot to win. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

Beasley has 3 days to take the pay cut, find a trade partner or be cut.  That is the reality with him.

 

I could be wrong, but my translation of what Jon Scott is hinting in the tweets quoted upthread is that Beasley was not offered the option for a paycut to stay with the team.

 

 

[GolfandBills]

2 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

Cole yesterday after all these signings: "give me the damn shot!"

Doubtful 

[MarkyMannn]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I could be wrong, but my translation of what Jon Scott is hinting in the tweets quoted upthread is that Beasley was not offered the option for a paycut to stay with the team.

 

 

I was wondering if Beasley was due $7m this year, what is the Bills current offer to him? Now seeing this play out, I think your post HBF and no offer is what's happening.

[SCBills]

Beasley and Hughes are two guys that I really wish could take the ride with us, but are still good players who can command a legitimate deal on the open market.   

 

Unfortunately, for the sentimental side of me, they are not guys that the Bills should be remotely interested in at the price point they can get elsewhere.  

 

While Hughes would be useful, given the fact I believe Von will be on a snap count per se (until the Playoffs), Beasley just doesn't make any sense to me.. We need more speed out of the slot and for cap purposes, layering contracts in a way so Diggs, Davis and a high draft pick are spaced out.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

 

17 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Beasley and Hughes are two guys that I really wish could take the ride with us, but are still good players who can command a legitimate deal on the open market.   

 

Unfortunately, for the sentimental side of me, they are not guys that the Bills should be remotely interested in at the price point they can get elsewhere.  

 

While Hughes would be useful, given the fact I believe Von will be on a snap count per se (until the Playoffs), Beasley just doesn't make any sense to me.. We need more speed out of the slot and for cap purposes, layering contracts in a way so Diggs, Davis and a high draft pick are spaced out.  

 

What do you think is the price point Beasley can get elsewhere?

 

One person made the point that a reason for Beasley to "get permission to seek a trade" is so that his agent can openly negotiate new contracts with potential trade partners, so the trade partner does not necessarily have to "lock in" to his current contract terms. 

 

I'd point out 🦗, except that we all had very visible proof with Beane yesterday that 🦗 are the Orca whale silently swimming up under its prey then 🌊

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

 

What do you think is the price point Beasley can get elsewhere?

 

One person made the point that a reason for Beasley to "get permission to seek a trade" is so that his agent can openly negotiate new contracts with potential trade partners, so the trade partner does not necessarily have to "lock in" to his current contract terms. 

 

I'd point out 🦗, except that we all had very visible proof with Beane yesterday that 🦗 are the Orca whale silently swimming up under its prey then 🌊

 

Above the vet minumum, which is what I would pay for him on this team.  

 

I just don't like the fit.  Diggs is the vet in his prime, about to get an extension most likely.  Davis is set to, hopefully, ascend - and has two years left on his rookie deal.  That WR3, IMO, should be a high rookie draft pick that can play inside/outside with speed and allows us to smartly layer our WR contracts. 

[Buftex]

36 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Beasley and Hughes are two guys that I really wish could take the ride with us, but are still good players who can command a legitimate deal on the open market.   

 

Unfortunately, for the sentimental side of me, they are not guys that the Bills should be remotely interested in at the price point they can get elsewhere.  

 

While Hughes would be useful, given the fact I believe Von will be on a snap count per se (until the Playoffs), Beasley just doesn't make any sense to me.. We need more speed out of the slot and for cap purposes, layering contracts in a way so Diggs, Davis and a high draft pick are spaced out.  

Receivers with great hands, should always make sense.  I'd take him back at the right price. Of course, we are a long way away from having the 2022 roster set, but to me, Beasley still has some value to the Bills, as it stands now.

[Alphadawg7]

Beasley > McKenzie in the slot and it’s not even close.  
 

That being said, I have full confidence Beane knows this and has no intention of heading into preseason with McKenzie as our starting slot WR for the season.  
 

I feel like the whole social media and vax stuff has caused fans to lose sight just how valuable Cole has been to Josh, how many huge third or fourth down conversions Cole made that were vital in a lot of games and wins.  
 

He is one of the best 3rd down WRs in the league.  McKenzie isn’t as good of a route runner, isn’t as tough (people forget how many tough plays Cole makes too), and doesn’t have as good of hands as Cole.  
 

Don’t get me wrong, I love bringing McKenzie back, he’s a weapon, he’s just not on Coles level out of the slot.  
 

So with Cole seemingly done here, my expectation is they will look for a slot guy in FA still, or more likely in the draft…and possibly both.  Josh loves hitting that slot guy on critical 3rd and 4th down plays, they will give him another weapon there before camp begins.  

[Special K]

On 3/4/2022 at 1:45 PM, Special K said:

 

Here's his replacement(He could also be a McKenzie replacement):

 

 

 

I posted this at the beginning of this thread a couple weeks ago....drafting a guy like Kyle Phillips is the way to go.....cheaper, younger, with the potential to be the next Cole Beasley.

[Royale with Cheese]

9 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Beasley > McKenzie in the slot and it’s not even close.  
 

That being said, I have full confidence Beane knows this and has no intention of heading into preseason with McKenzie as our starting slot WR for the season.  
 

I feel like the whole social media and vax stuff has caused fans to lose sight just how valuable Cole has been to Josh, how many huge third or fourth down conversions Cole made that were vital in a lot of games and wins.  
 

He is one of the best 3rd down WRs in the league.  McKenzie isn’t as good of a route runner, isn’t as tough (people forget how many tough plays Cole makes too), and doesn’t have as good of hands as Cole.  
 

Don’t get me wrong, I love bringing McKenzie back, he’s a weapon, he’s just not on Coles level out of the slot.  
 

So with Cole seemingly done here, my expectation is they will look for a slot guy in FA still, or more likely in the draft…and possibly both.  Josh loves hitting that slot guy on critical 3rd and 4th down plays, they will give him another weapon there before camp begins.  

 

What are your thoughts of us having more two Tight End sets and not having that true slot WR?  Davis can be the big slot, McKenzie can be quick slot guy trying to get YAC and Diggs can rotate in giving us different looks?  I think Dorsey will run less 4 WR sets.

[Alphadawg7]

9 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

What are your thoughts of us having more two Tight End sets and not having that true slot WR?  Davis can be the big slot, McKenzie can be quick slot guy trying to get YAC and Diggs can rotate in giving us different looks?  I think Dorsey will run less 4 WR sets.

I love the two TE set potential with OJ Howard here.  I’ve been advocating trying to get him for the past 2-3 years from Tampa.  I think pairing his athletic ability with Knox own athletic ability is going to put a lot of pressure on defenses.

 

But that being said, Cole wasn’t on the field for just 4 WR sets, he was a key component if this offense, even as just a guy the defense had to pay serious attention to on 3rd and 4th down which helped other guys as well.

 

So I still think Beane is going to look for another guy to add at the slot position, and likely in the draft.  He was also reportedly interested in Barrios before he signed elsewhere already.

[boyst]

25 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Beasley > McKenzie in the slot and it’s not even close.  
 

That being said, I have full confidence Beane knows this and has no intention of heading into preseason with McKenzie as our starting slot WR for the season.  
 

I feel like the whole social media and vax stuff has caused fans to lose sight just how valuable Cole has been to Josh, how many huge third or fourth down conversions Cole made that were vital in a lot of games and wins.  
 

He is one of the best 3rd down WRs in the league.  McKenzie isn’t as good of a route runner, isn’t as tough (people forget how many tough plays Cole makes too), and doesn’t have as good of hands as Cole.  
 

Don’t get me wrong, I love bringing McKenzie back, he’s a weapon, he’s just not on Coles level out of the slot.  
 

So with Cole seemingly done here, my expectation is they will look for a slot guy in FA still, or more likely in the draft…and possibly both.  Josh loves hitting that slot guy on critical 3rd and 4th down plays, they will give him another weapon there before camp begins.  

you speak of the toughness of Beasley and that McKenzie is not as tough. To keep Beasley to have depth at the slot position is going to be important. Slot receivers get banged up more than most. To keep depth at the slot position having both would be a great opportunity.

Stevenson has not showed the potential we wished. I am not even sure he will be returning kicks next year. He, among a few on this roster, is great potential for trade fodder.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

48 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Above the vet minumum, which is what I would pay for him on this team.  

 

I just don't like the fit.  Diggs is the vet in his prime, about to get an extension most likely.  Davis is set to, hopefully, ascend - and has two years left on his rookie deal.  That WR3, IMO, should be a high rookie draft pick that can play inside/outside with speed and allows us to smartly layer our WR contracts. 

 

Good take IMO.   I'll add that one aspect of Cole's tenure here that I think was under-appreciated is how much of a "player coach" he was for 2nd year Josh.  He got in Josh's ear every play and helped re-wire him from a QB who thought he could wait to make his throw until the WR turned and rely on his arm to rifle it in, into a QB who would "throw to the spot" and trust his WR to see it the same way and arrive when the ball did.

 

But now Josh has internalized that, and shown he will trust other WR and throw other WR open (Diggs, Davis, Sanders, McKenzie).  Beasley is no longer needed in that role.

 

So what does Beasley bring?

 

37 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Beasley > McKenzie in the slot and it’s not even close.  (.....)

He is one of the best 3rd down WRs in the league.  McKenzie isn’t as good of a route runner, isn’t as tough (people forget how many tough plays Cole makes too), and doesn’t have as good of hands as Cole. 

 

OK, so there's a bunch of stuff I agree with here, and some I question.  Bottom line up front, I agree with you that IF Dorsey wants the same kind of slot receiver role that Beasley filled in this offense, McKenzie is not the answer and the Bills better have another plan.  That said....

 

McKenzie has improved significantly as a route runner in the last 2 years (since Chad Hall and Diggs).  He's also improved his hands - some of his 11 receptions in the NWE game were very high degree of difficulty catches, and potentially catches Beasley didn't make last year.  That TD catch in the Pats game was thrown behind him, and he literally reversed direction and went back for it.

 

I will grant that Beasley has been McKenzie's Daddy as a route runner and for hands - other things being equal.  But when hampered by injury (as he was in playoffs 2020 and much of the season 2021) and as McK has improved, the difference lessens.  Maybe to favorite Uncle?

 

I'm also not sure that you're correct McKenzie isn't as tough.  Between KR, PR, receptions, and rushes McKenzie saw the ball 78 times last season, "took a licking" on a lot of those plays, held up and hung on.  That's essentially the number of touches Beasley saw per year before he joined the Bills, and given that Beasley has been injured 2 of the last 3 years one can make an argument that perhaps the jump in targets wrote a check Beas' body can't cash.  McKenzie also both can and will block.  Beasley....mmmmm well, let's just say I've never seen him in the backfield with an onrushing LB and if I did, I'd advise Josh to throw it away or run.  McKenzie, Josh glanced over and said "OK, I'm good".

 

There's also the speed thing.  It doesn't help to know exactly what the defense is going to do if you can't get downfield while the window is open, before the CBs react.  And Beasley has never been able to do what McKenzie did against the Pats "he's playing me outside and off, let me run away from him"

 

Where Beasley distinguishes himself is between the ears and very few are close.  Isaiah until proven otherwise, isn't even in the same building.  Wallace called Beasley a "cheat code" for zone coverage and helping him understand how the best receivers read and react to it.  Cole has that ability to watch film and figure out how this particular D is likely to react to different formations and down and distance, and talk it through with Josh to be sure they're on the same page.  That's the ability McKenzie has NOT been shown to have.

 

All that said.....we don't know what Dorsey et al have planned for the offense.  It's entirely possible they would like the offense to depend less upon option routes and secondary route concepts and to make more use of tight ends, on the "always open 2 feet over his head" principle.

[Spiderweb]

31 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Beasley > McKenzie in the slot and it’s not even close.  
 

That being said, I have full confidence Beane knows this and has no intention of heading into preseason with McKenzie as our starting slot WR for the season.  
 

I feel like the whole social media and vax stuff has caused fans to lose sight just how valuable Cole has been to Josh, how many huge third or fourth down conversions Cole made that were vital in a lot of games and wins.  
 

He is one of the best 3rd down WRs in the league.  McKenzie isn’t as good of a route runner, isn’t as tough (people forget how many tough plays Cole makes too), and doesn’t have as good of hands as Cole.  
 

Don’t get me wrong, I love bringing McKenzie back, he’s a weapon, he’s just not on Coles level out of the slot.  
 

So with Cole seemingly done here, my expectation is they will look for a slot guy in FA still, or more likely in the draft…and possibly both.  Josh loves hitting that slot guy on critical 3rd and 4th down plays, they will give him another weapon there before camp begins.  

McKenzie has one advantage over Beasley and that is speed (and one could say, cheaper too).

[Alphadawg7]

3 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

you speak of the toughness of Beasley and that McKenzie is not as tough. To keep Beasley to have depth at the slot position is going to be important. Slot receivers get banged up more than most. To keep depth at the slot position having both would be a great opportunity.

Stevenson has not showed the potential we wished. I am not even sure he will be returning kicks next year. He, among a few on this roster, is great potential for trade fodder.

Yeah I would prefer Beasley was here this year, but if we believe the reports it sounds like it’s just not in the cards.  And yeah, they can get banged up which is why I am confident Beane isn’t banking on McKenzie as the full time slot WR given he’s pretty small.  Beasley wasn’t big either, but he’s built pretty stout for his size and played physical because of it…plus we always had McKenzie as a backup when he did get banged up. 
 

Assuming the reports are accurate and Cole is as good as gone, then I would be interested to see if someone like Hodgins can ascend from the PS and finally grab an active roster spot as a slot option too.  I wouldn’t say bank on any PS squad guy stepping up, but he’s flashed potential and been stuck behind Cole and McKenzie.

[wjag]

6 minutes ago, Spiderweb said:

McKenzie has one advantage over Beasley and that is speed (and one could say, cheaper too).

 

Actually he has 2.  He is signed for 2 more years. 🙂 

 

Bring back, bring back, bring back my Beas to me ....

[Royale with Cheese]

14 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

you speak of the toughness of Beasley and that McKenzie is not as tough. To keep Beasley to have depth at the slot position is going to be important. Slot receivers get banged up more than most. To keep depth at the slot position having both would be a great opportunity.

Stevenson has not showed the potential we wished. I am not even sure he will be returning kicks next year. He, among a few on this roster, is great potential for trade fodder.

 

Stevenson has zero vision.  He seems to just have straight line speed.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

19 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Assuming the reports are accurate and Cole is as good as gone, then I would be interested to see if someone like Hodgins can ascend from the PS and finally grab an active roster spot as a slot option too.  I wouldn’t say bank on any PS squad guy stepping up, but he’s flashed potential and been stuck behind Cole and McKenzie.

 

Question:

 

Is there any reason to believe, based on college or scouting, that Hodgins has quickness and ability to play in the slot?

Not that it's gospel, but I looked up his scouting report and found this:

• Below average short area twitch to lose coverage
• Doesn't have enough speed to worry a cornerback
• Long cornerbacks phase up his sideline routes
• Extended gather steps to open on comebacks

51 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

What are your thoughts of us having more two Tight End sets and not having that true slot WR?  Davis can be the big slot, McKenzie can be quick slot guy trying to get YAC and Diggs can rotate in giving us different looks?  I think Dorsey will run less 4 WR sets.

 

I think it is possible that Dorsey wants to use TE more in the short/intermediate passing game.

[Alphadawg7]

Good post, I will put my responses below each point below

 

 

31 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

OK, so there's a bunch of stuff I agree with here, and some I question.  Bottom line up front, I agree with you that IF Dorsey wants the same kind of slot receiver role that Beasley filled in this offense, McKenzie is not the answer and the Bills better have another plan.  That said....

 

McKenzie has improved significantly as a route runner in the last 2 years (since Chad Hall and Diggs).  He's also improved his hands - some of his 11 receptions in the NWE game were very high degree of difficulty catches, and potentially catches Beasley didn't make last year.  That TD catch in the Pats game was thrown behind him, and he literally reversed direction and went back for it.

 

No disagreement from me, McKenzie has improved and why I really liked bringing him back.  I was just comparing the skills to Beasley, who is one of the best route runners out of the slot in the NFL with great hands.  That being said, the one thing that concerns me about McKenzie is the sample size of said improvement too though.  I mean, there are a lot of guys who don't say have the most reliable hands have big games or make big catches here and there.  But is that what you would see if they were relied on regularly is the question.  But without question he has improved and I am still quite happy he is back in general.  

 

31 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I will grant that Beasley has been McKenzie's Daddy as a route runner and for hands - other things being equal.  But when hampered by injury (as he was in playoffs 2020 and much of the season 2021) and as McK has improved, the difference lessens.  Maybe to favorite Uncle?

 

Good analogy and assessment here, agree with this too.

 

31 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'm also not sure that you're correct McKenzie isn't as tough.  Between KR, PR, receptions, and rushes McKenzie saw the ball 78 times last season, "took a licking" on a lot of those plays, held up and hung on.  That's essentially the number of touches Beasley saw per year before he joined the Bills, and given that Beasley has been injured 2 of the last 3 years one can make an argument that perhaps the jump in targets wrote a check Beas' body can't cash.  McKenzie also both can and will block.  Beasley....mmmmm well, let's just say I've never seen him in the backfield with an onrushing LB and if I did, I'd advise Josh to throw it away or run.  McKenzie, Josh glanced over and said "OK, I'm good".

 

This is maybe the only thing we weren't quite on the same page on, and probably my fault for not better defining what I mean by "tough".  I wasn't referencing the ability to stay healthy or take a hit, I was talking more in style of play.  McKenzie has been a finesse type player his whole career.  Cole is a guy who can lay a big chip block on a run play despite being small.  He is a guy who can catch the ball short of the first down, take contact and still get the first down.  He is small, but he plays tough and strong despite the small stature.  McKenzie just isn't that type of player, and I think thats a part of Coles game that goes under appreciated lately.  And while McKenzie is certainly a lot faster, which is great, I think Cole is shiftier in making guys miss to get to that first down marker.  

 

31 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

There's also the speed thing.  It doesn't help to know exactly what the defense is going to do if you can't get downfield while the window is open, before the CBs react.  And Beasley has never been able to do what McKenzie did against the Pats "he's playing me outside and off, let me run away from him"

 

He was great in that Pats game...however...I caution at putting too much stock into that.  Its one thing to catch a team off guard and have an unheralded guy they weren't expecting and didnt game plan to stop come in and go off on them one game.  Its an entirely other thing to be a main fixture week in and week out where teams are ready for that and create a plan to try and limit the damage that player can do. 

 

31 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Where Beasley distinguishes himself is between the ears and very few are close.  Isaiah until proven otherwise, isn't even in the same building.  Wallace called Beasley a "cheat code" for zone coverage and helping him understand how the best receivers read and react to it.  Cole has that ability to watch film and figure out how this particular D is likely to react to different formations and down and distance, and talk it through with Josh to be sure they're on the same page.  That's the ability McKenzie has NOT been shown to have.

 

Also a very good point, just how cerebral and intelligent Cole is.  I remember Josh Allen talking up how important Beasley was to him and his development off the field because Cole would be in his ear non stop every day going over plays, what went right or wrong on even a practice play, what he was seeing, etc etc.  

 

31 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

All that said.....we don't know what Dorsey et al have planned for the offense.  It's entirely possible they would like the offense to depend less upon option routes and secondary route concepts and to make more use of tight ends, on the "always open 2 feet over his head" principle.

 

Im excited to see what Dorsey brings, and excited to see if we get 2 TE sets more into the offense with OJ Howard here as well.  But I do feel like Josh has had such a dependable outlet at the slot position and took advantage of it in so many key situations the past few years that they will still try and have someone there that can be reliable for Josh.  Especially since its been such a big part of his reads.  

[Alphadawg7]

16 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Question:

 

Is there any reason to believe, based on college or scouting, that Hodgins has quickness and ability to play in the slot?

Not that it's gospel, but I looked up his scouting report and found this:

• Below average short area twitch to lose coverage
• Doesn't have enough speed to worry a cornerback
• Long cornerbacks phase up his sideline routes
• Extended gather steps to open on comebacks

 

I think it is possible that Dorsey wants to use TE more in the short/intermediate passing game.

 

To be honest, I didnt know a lot about him in college.  I am basing my curiosity from the potential he has at times flashed on the field in limited opportunities in camp.  By no means is he someone to depend on taking over, more so that they have liked him enough to keep bringing him back even though he had no real shot at the roster with Cole and Mckenzie here.  

 

Like I said a couple posts ago though, I fully expect Beane to draft or sign someone now that Cole is officially gone that can be a guy that can play that slot role regularly.  So Hodgins IMO is just someone I am curious about, but still a long shot to ascend to the 53 man roster.  

[MAJBobby]

 

[T&C]

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[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 minute ago, T&C said:

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meaning.  
 

 

Call me in 4 weeks 

[WhoTom]

Quote

“There is, I’m told, significant interest across the league, it’s just a matter of waiting for the right opportunity, significant money – he’s not just going to play for a veteran’s minimum deal. So Beasley continues to weight options.”

 

I suspect that the two "significants" above are incompatible. There may be significant interest, but not for significant money.

 

[BillsFanForever19]

4 minutes ago, WhoTom said:

 

I suspect that the two "significants" above are incompatible. There may be significant interest, but not for significant money.

 

Agreed. If there were interest and money that could be defined as "significant" - he'd be signed by now. I find it very hard to believe. Sounds like a media member helping out an agent to me.

[T&C]

11 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

meaning.  
 

 

Call me in 4 weeks 

Gad... I Could see him going to the Giants on a one year.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

[JaCrispy]

1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

I wish him well…I love “Dirt”…

 

PS…”Dirt” was my nickname for Beasley (from Joe Dirt)…😉

Edited July 26, 2022 by JaCrispy

[mikemac2001]

Man if coke doesn’t get signed I have no problem picking him up mid season fresh 

[Buffalo716]

1 hour ago, mikemac2001 said:

Man if coke doesn’t get signed I have no problem picking him up mid season fresh 

Coke?!

[Dablitzkrieg]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

Coke?!

[chongli]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Coke?!

 

Maybe he meant "Smoke"?? Not sure.

 

[EDIT: Oh, I see, t's a typo for "Cole". LOL.]

Edited July 27, 2022 by chongli

[Starr Almighty]

1 hour ago, mikemac2001 said:

Man if coke doesn’t get signed I have no problem picking him up mid season fresh 

I think a suspension comes along with this

[DCofNC]

2 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

I wish him well…I love “Dirt”…

 

PS…”Dirt” was my nickname for Beasley (from Joe Dirt)…😉

Love it.

 

I’m sure he will catch on somewhere.  It would shock me to see him go to a liberal city though and I feel like that eliminates a few of his good fits.  If he’s after a contender, it gets even harder.  Carolina kinda seems like a good spot for him in terms of how much use he could get, but not really a contender.

[SCBills]

55 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Love it.

 

I’m sure he will catch on somewhere.  It would shock me to see him go to a liberal city though and I feel like that eliminates a few of his good fits.  If he’s after a contender, it gets even harder.  Carolina kinda seems like a good spot for him in terms of how much use he could get, but not really a contender.

It’s more about the states than the cities. 

 

Atlanta/Miami are nothing like NYC/LA
 

Maybe he doesn’t want to deal with NY/NJ/CA/IL/DC but the Rust Belt states and South/Midwest are fine.