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Denver hiring Nathaniel Hackett as HC


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2 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Looks like the Broncos won’t be contenders anytime soon 

Disagree, if Rodgers follows. Denver has a good roster already, the big hole being at QB. No idea how Nate will pan out as a HC, but odds are he'll be an improvement over Fangio.

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4 hours ago, Protocal69 said:

Does this mean Aaron Rodgers follows him to Denver?

 

this is the only thing that makes sense.  Then again, it's Denver.  Hope Rodgers goes to an NFC team.  

1 hour ago, Hebert19 said:

This concludes Rodgers to Denver IMO.    If that were to happen there is no way mahomes gets 1 seed there.  Dealing with Vegas Denver and chargers was hard enough without Rodgers being there too. 

This works be big for us.  That division will decimate each other. 

 

okay, I like this line of thinking. 

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5 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

He sucks, but he has a lot of energy and his Dad has a ton of connections and is well liked. Denver probably thinks they are getting McVay. 

He somehow got the label of "boy genius" a long time ago and the folks who run the NFL are dumb enough that the label will stick forever.

 

Never mind the fact that he demonstrated for all to see in Buffalo that he was not only NOT a genius, but he was from some sort of Wunderkind.

 

The kid was in way over his head.

 

Maybe he's progressed since then.

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said:

Rodgers not a free agent, Denver will have to trade for him.  Adams also not a free agent, he is prime candidate for franchise tag.  I just don’t see how Packers won’t try to run it back again for 1 last time.


Isn’t there an out in his contract where he can be a free agent after this season?

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18 minutes ago, Bangarang said:


Isn’t there an out in his contract where he can be a free agent after this season?

“Rodgers is not a pending free agent. He and the Packers agreed to a restructured contract last summer. In that deal, a void year was added for 2023 – meaning he would be able to enter free agency and be ineligible for the franchise tag after next season. The contract was also structured so that the Packers would save nearly $20 million against the cap if Rodgers is traded before June 2022. Based on that language, many have speculated that he will seek a trade this offseason.”

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Congrats to Nate.  I know we loved to sh*t on him here when he was our OC, but we didn't really have a great amount of talent on those offenses, he was really green, and we were in QB hell.  I'm sure he's grown as a coach over the years, and by all accounts, he's a really likeable guy.  Good luck to him.

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38 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said:

Rodgers not a free agent, Denver will have to trade for him.  Adams also not a free agent, he is prime candidate for franchise tag.  I just don’t see how Packers won’t try to run it back again for 1 last time.

I heard Rodgers on mcafee show. I get the impression that Adams would not sign a franchise tag and if he doesn’t get a long term deal  Rodgers is gone. 

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I mentioned in a threat the other day that the Bills should have a keen eye on what Denver and Oakland do in regards to the HC hiring and offseason strategy relevant to building a team to compete with the Chiefs and this is the first domino to fall.

 

Many Bills fans will obviously remember Hackett in Buffalo for his ho hum offense under Marrone but he's considered an up and coming guy in the mold of Zac Taylor and Sean McVay and this is the exact type of move I expected in Denver especially after going with a defensive type of guy in Fangio last time.

 

If they land Aaron Rogers or another legit veteran QB they will be a contender next year for sure with the talent already on that roster.

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5 hours ago, Protocal69 said:

Does this mean Aaron Rodgers follows him to Denver?

 

NFC will have nobody left, especially if Rodgers and Wilson go to the AFC. It's nuts!

 

Most of these guys don't seem to think strategically. "I want to win more super Bowls, so I'll leave a conference with 3 good teams and join the AFC, which has Allen, Mahomes, Herbet, Jackson, Burrow, NE lurking around, and Indy and Tennesee which are solid squads with awful QBs but still win games. 

 

Brady could come back to Tampa and just play December on and basically have a bye to the NFC Title Game vs the Rams. 

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24 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I heard Rodgers on mcafee show. I get the impression that Adams would not sign a franchise tag and if he doesn’t get a long term deal  Rodgers is gone. 

 

Considering the playoff game made it clear Rodgers sees his WR corps as "Davante Adams and No One", that's hardly a surprise.

 

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3 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:


Don’t you have to be a FA to get tagged?

Yes, meant to say he will likely get tagged.   Larger point is Packers have leverage over both Rodgers and Adams.  For them to get out, and get out together would take a lot of malcontent behavior, luck, or Packers just wanting to start over.

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1 hour ago, TheBrownBear said:

Congrats to Nate.  I know we loved to sh*t on him here when he was our OC, but we didn't really have a great amount of talent on those offenses, he was really green, and we were in QB hell.  I'm sure he's grown as a coach over the years, and by all accounts, he's a really likeable guy.  Good luck to him.

Of course he wasn't great with EJ Manuel playing quarterback, but when Kyle Orton was playing competent ball the offense got some things going. When Orton lost interest and became more concerned with staying healthy than anything else, the offense regressed. 

 

You need good quarterback play to have success on offense in this league! But then when they do get good quarterback play, we say it's all about the QB and the coach doesn't matter. It's all on the coach...until it actually goes well.

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11 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Who would have thought in 201-whatever that our OC, who only had the job because he was buds with Marrone, would someday be a NFL HC. 
 

Good for him!

A lot of people in football circles  knew Nathaniel Hackett would probably be a head coach one day 

 

He was the youngest offensive coordinator in the league and considered very innovative and bright.. despite getting EJ manual and not a great cast

 

he was always considered to have a very good football mind despite his reputation in buffalo 

 

I don't think he'll be very successful but I'm not super surprised

 

 

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7 hours ago, Bangarang said:

Can anyone explain what is impressive about his resume? As far as I know he doesn’t even call plays or design the offense in GB. I just don’t see it

As far as I can tell (and listening to all the Broncos shills here in Colorado), it's:

- reviving Green Bay's offense. But that's not really supported by the record. He got the job in 2019. The Packers were 12th in total yardage in 2018, then 18th in Hackett's first year as coordinator, then 6th (hey a good trend!), but then, oops, 10th. 

- turning Blake Bortles into a statistically good QB for one year (and one year only) in Jacksonville. How much credit Hackett deserves for this is debatable, particularly since it didn't stick

- being an all around younger, upbeat, Ted Lasso guy. When you follow Vic Fangio you're gonna look like a bundle of dynamite even if you're Sean McD. So there is that.

- the biggie: Aaron Rodgers bait.

I don't think it's an awful choice. This is what teams do. Broncos: Josh McDaniels, just about the youngest head coach ever, first timer. Fail. Bring in old experienced retread John Fox. Now it's the opposite: old guy Fangio (although never a head coach) out, young guy Hackett in.

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1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

A lot of people in football circles  knew Nathaniel Hackett would probably be a head coach one day 

 

He was the youngest offensive coordinator in the league and considered very innovative and bright.. despite getting EJ manual and not a great cast

 

he was always considered to have a very good football mind despite his reputation in buffalo 

 

I don't think he'll be very successful but I'm not super surprised

 

 

If they don’t AR, he’s one and done unless they are stubborn.  My packer friends are happy he’s gone despite their good record.

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6 minutes ago, NewEra said:

If they don’t AR, he’s one and done unless they are stubborn.  My packer friends are happy he’s gone despite their good record.

 

They'll be pining for him when they see Jordan Love play...

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11 hours ago, Billsflyer12 said:

Rodgers not a free agent, Denver will have to trade for him.  Adams also not a free agent, he is prime candidate for franchise tag.  I just don’t see how Packers won’t try to run it back again for 1 last time.

 

The Packers would be wise to trade both and re-tool...or they can be stubborn and look like the Falcons in a year or 2.

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15 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Anyone who didn't assume the son of a relative NFL offensive coordinating icon and former big time NCAA head coach(USC and Pitt).........with his playing experience and academic background.........would someday become an NFL HC.........probably wasn't paying much attention.

 

Doesn't mean he will be good............but if anything it's surprising it took that long for him to be handed a job.   

I was fortunate as a long-tenured server at Tempo to watch so many coaches, front office personnel, and players interact with each other...and I'll admit, Hackett was one of the most boisterous and intense football minds even while out to eat. Really got caught up in talking football with his fellow coaches who were less...engaged. Marrone, on the contrary, was boastful and self-satisfied. I came away impressed with Hackett's football righteousness. For whatever it's worth (and it might be worth a little something on strictly relative terms, closely witnessing so many intimate interactions and comparing them to one another). 

 

The amount of access a few of us had back then was pretty crazy. 

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