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Texans getting closer to hiring Josh McCown as Head Coach


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23 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:

McCown is pretty respected league wide. But the issue is he has never coached at any level. They think he can suddenly walk in and be a HC and build a competent staff? Love McCown, but this is just a huge stretch

It has become common place in baseball.  I also think it depends who he surrounds himself with.  I'm not saying I would be ecstatic if the Bills did this but I don't think it's the worst idea.

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15 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Without any judgment of people involved, I wonder how much of this is a character issue being forwarded by Easterby. 🤔

His faith-based approach to life definitely won't HURT McCown's chances if Easterby has influence...

 

Consider Reich's persistent personal connection to and professional belief in Carson Wentz. Very much rooted in their shared faiths. Which I point out without judgment. 

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10 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

why did tasker go nuts?

 

 

Because he feels it's ridiculous to bring in a guy who recently retired as a player & has never been a coach.  He's more old school and believes a coach starts at a lower point & works his way up, not go from a retired player to a head coach with no experience in between.  If you want to hear what he said, I linked the show somewhere in this thread & since it is right at the beginning you don't have to fish around for where his rant starts.  

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21 hours ago, Billzgobowlin said:

It has become common place in baseball.  I also think it depends who he surrounds himself with.  I'm not saying I would be ecstatic if the Bills did this but I don't think it's the worst idea.

Coaching experience matters a lot more in football than in baseball.

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Anyone else think it’s kind of telling that they haven’t even interviewed Leslie Frazier this offseason, after he was a finalist for the job last year?

 

It makes me think that they were just using him last offseason, and viewed him as a throw away coach - someone they could have command the tank for a season and then discard.

 

kind of pisses me off TBH. Frazier deserves better than that.

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5 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

Anyone else think it’s kind of telling that they haven’t even interviewed Leslie Frazier this offseason, after he was a finalist for the job last year?

 

It makes me think that they were just using him last offseason, and viewed him as a throw away coach - someone they could have command the tank for a season and then discard.

 

kind of pisses me off TBH. Frazier deserves better than that.

 

Being that Watson isn't going to be the QB, I bet Frazier wants nothing to do with that organization.

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1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Lol, Texans

Davis Webb should be offended they didn't call him in for an interview.  How do you even compare the two?  McCown: I helped Sam Darnold develop into the QB he is today.  Webb: I helped Josh Allen develop into the QB he is today.  

Slam dunk winner & next Texans head coach should be Davis Webb!😜 

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1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said:

For an organization that isn’t a dumpster fire, this might be looked at as an outside-of-the-box intriguing hire.  For the Texans, it just looks like nobody else wants the job.  

 

Still makes no sense they rushed to dump Culley unless they had a specific person in mind to replace him with. If it was Flores or someone else obviously they already said no thanks.

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If it goes down, Flores shouldn’t need any other proof than this for his lawsuit. No way in the world you can tell me this guy with zero coaching credentials is the best guy for the job. The only problem is that the Texans have become a joke of a franchise and the strongest candidates don’t seem to be remotely interested, so he may actually be the best remaining guy for the job. 

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39 minutes ago, TheProcess said:

If it goes down, Flores shouldn’t need any other proof than this for his lawsuit. No way in the world you can tell me this guy with zero coaching credentials is the best guy for the job. The only problem is that the Texans have become a joke of a franchise and the strongest candidates don’t seem to be remotely interested, so he may actually be the best remaining guy for the job. 

 

The best thing for the Texans is what might be coming for the Dols and Browns: forcing the owner to sell the team.

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6 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

It's like the Texans really want to hire McCown but they're scared. 

 

Either it works and you're geniuses or it doesn't and you look like fools. Who cares what anyone says right now? 

 

Pray about it a bit. 

 

So, what you’re saying is, either it works and you look like geniuses, or nothing changes. 🤷‍♂️

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7 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Texans never known for reading a room well...

 

 

 

 

So according to that article, the Texans three finalists include "former Miami Dolphins head coach Brian Flores and Philadelphia Eagles defensive coordinator Jonathan Gannon."

 

Hiring a guy with no NFL coaching experience over Flores and Gannon would NOT be a good look for the hiring processes of NFL teams
 

 

 

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Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

So according to that article, the Texans three finalists include "former Miami Dolphins head coach Brian Flores and Philadelphia Eagles defensive coordinator Jonathan Gannon."

 

Hiring a guy with no NFL coaching experience over Flores and Gannon would NOT be a good look for the hiring processes of NFL teams

 

 

Couldn't look much worse than what's being reported in Minnesota. If O'Connell is indeed the guy (36, no HC experience, been a coach for 5 seasons) picked over Patrick Graham (well reguarded coach, almost 20 years experience) and Raheem Morris (HC experience. Ended badly however has done an excellent job since and has rebuilt his image) the NFL should brace for a sizable backlash IMO.

 

This isn't to say that O'Connell is going to be bad. But the optics the day after the Floresgate dropped isn't good.

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2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Couldn't look much worse than what's being reported in Minnesota. If O'Connell is indeed the guy (36, no HC experience, been a coach for 5 seasons) picked over Patrick Graham (well reguarded coach, almost 20 years experience) and Raheem Morris (HC experience. Ended badly however has done an excellent job since and has rebuilt his image) the NFL should brace for a sizable backlash IMO.

 

This isn't to say that O'Connell is going to be bad. But the optics the day after the Floresgate dropped isn't good.

 

 

I think it's way worse.  Yes, O'Connell has worked himself up the ranks relatively quickly, but he's been a position coach and has been an OC for 3 years for 2 different teams, and is about to take his team to the Superbowl.  

 

It's been an overall trend to hire "hot" young coaches from the Offensive side of the ball, over far more experienced Defensive guys:

McVay was hired with 3 years as OC and 3 years as a position coach, and went to the Superbowl his first year.

Zac Taylor was hired with 2 years as OC (one for the Dolphins and one for a college) and 5 or 6 years overall NFL experience and hey, Watch This.

 

It's hard to argue it's inappropriate when it's a pattern that has had demonstrated success, and the position coaches for championship teams are typically a hot commodity.

 

McCown has NO coaching experience.  None.  Zilch. Zippo.

 

 

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15 hours ago, TheProcess said:

If it goes down, Flores shouldn’t need any other proof than this for his lawsuit. No way in the world you can tell me this guy with zero coaching credentials is the best guy for the job. The only problem is that the Texans have become a joke of a franchise and the strongest candidates don’t seem to be remotely interested, so he may actually be the best remaining guy for the job. 

 

did Flores apply for Texans job? 

9 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

So according to that article, the Texans three finalists include "former Miami Dolphins head coach Brian Flores and Philadelphia Eagles defensive coordinator Jonathan Gannon."

 

Hiring a guy with no NFL coaching experience over Flores and Gannon would NOT be a good look for the hiring processes of NFL teams
 

 

 

 

that’s a far left journalist there.  

 

Did Flores actually apply for the job?   Seems like everyone is preemptively freaking out when there hasn’t been an announcement yet. 

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