BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 https://www.wivb.com/news/top-stories/no-money-for-new-stadium-in-hochuls-budget-proposal/amp/ Poloncarz said they’re still negotiating and he wants to get this done the right way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Drill a well Terry! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManCrushPassRush Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 So the earliest it can begin to be budgeted is 2024, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 So you’re telling me there’s still a chance for a dome? 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ManCrushPassRush said: So the earliest it can begin to be budgeted is 2024, no? Nope. They have until April 1st to finalize the budget. Even after that amendments can be made but would need legislation to make changes. Edited January 18, 2022 by atlbillsfan1975 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 18, 2022 Author Share Posted January 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: So you’re telling me there’s still a chance for a dome? No there’s zero chance of a dome 2 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: No there’s zero chance of a dome That’s what they said about the Jags chances against the Bills. 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: That’s what they said about the Jags chances against the Bills. 🤣 Too soon. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Not sure why Hochul would show her hand in the budget proposal if there’s no agreement on the split yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Shocking news!! Likely the Gov has smelled little downstate support for Pegula's wonderland. She's probably squeezing PSE real hard about now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Seems like the taxpayers of Buffalo and WNY are getting ready to be bent over a table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 More bribe money is needed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 I'm in for five bucks. Who's with me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Murdock Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: So you’re telling me there’s still a chance for a dome? No, and there's no Easter Bunny either. Buffalo will be extremely lucky to get the $900+ Million from the state it will take to build the $1.4 Billion dollar open air stadium. The Bills can't sell more than 55,000 season tickets (The Lowest in the league). The Bills are the only team that still relies on selling at least 15,000 game day seats. They sell virtually no corporate suites, where other teams sell hundreds, and some fans demand a Dome. I want to hit the Mega Million. We'll still be lucky to keep the team. This ain't Vegas, LA or Minneapolis. There's less then zero chance of a Dome. 2 1 2 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 20 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Shocking news!! Likely the Gov has smelled little downstate support for Pegula's wonderland. She's probably squeezing PSE real hard about now. These negotiations were always going to be difficult. Lots at stake for all parties. To your point, I would be surprised if their was much downstate support for a Bills stadium. For Hochul, it’s about the quid pro quo for downstate support and her potential re-election. It would be best for all parties if this could be resolved in the current budget cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I'm in for five bucks. Who's with me? We should do this $17 at a time to inspire the Bills Mafia! (Not a fan of that term, but whatever…..anything to inspire!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, FLFan said: These negotiations were always going to be difficult. Lots at stake for all parties. To your point, I would be surprised if their was much downstate support for a Bills stadium. For Hochul, it’s about the quid pro quo for downstate support and her potential re-election. It would be best for all parties if this could be resolved in the current budget cycle. This is what makes her take pause. She won't be re-elected with the upstate vote. She knows there's no interest from downstate Senators/Assembly members for a stadium. She wouldn't lose an election if there's not a budget item for the stadium.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: This is what makes her take pause. She won't be re-elected with the upstate vote. She knows there's no interest from downstate Senators/Assembly members for a stadium. She wouldn't lose an election if there's not a budget item for the stadium.... That’s where your wrong, she wants to be re elected and she knows that the stadium deal would be one of her tickets that helps her get re elected. Her and Poloncarz would be looked at as heroes for saving the Bills from leaving town Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: That’s where your wrong, she wants to be re elected and she knows that the stadium deal would be one of her tickets that helps her get re elected. Her and Poloncarz would be looked at as heroes for saving the Bills from leaving town East of maybe Monroe county, that won't get her many votes. Why would it? If downstate politicians made noise against the state funding a billion or so for a billionaire's stadium in Buffalo, she would cave in a second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Crowd 36 minutes ago, Augie said: We should do this $17 at a time to inspire the Bills Mafia! (Not a fan of that term, but whatever…..anything to inspire!) Crowd funding a stadium in today's world doesn't seem that unreasonable. And especially while the bills are playing well, there would be plenty of people willing to fork over cash to make it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: East of maybe Monroe county, that won't get her many votes. Why would it? If downstate politicians made noise against the state funding a billion or so for a billionaire's stadium in Buffalo, she would cave in a second. Well it’s pretty obvious the downstate politicians aren’t against it. They know what the Bills bring to Buffalo. It’s practically the city’s identity. It would be political career suicide if any of them even raised a fuss about the state funding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, Lost said: Crowd Crowd funding a stadium in today's world doesn't seem that unreasonable. And especially while the bills are playing well, there would be plenty of people willing to fork over cash to make it happen. So at $17 per person per year shared by the 1 Million people in WNY means it will take 1,000 years to raise enough money to build the end zones. Count me in! (kidding) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: East of maybe Monroe county, that won't get her many votes. Why would it? If downstate politicians made noise against the state funding a billion or so for a billionaire's stadium in Buffalo, she would cave in a second. Let me just preface this by saying I am not trying to encourage a political discussion in any way. But as it relates to politics and the stadium, it needs to be said that Hochul is leading in polls among her party by a healthy margin and the two perceived strongest downstate opponents, James and DiBlasio, are both not running. Plus, Hochul is from Buffalo. The biggest threat for her will be if she doesn't get a deal done. Edited January 19, 2022 by buffblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 How did the previous Buffalo-based governor, Grover Cleveland, handle stadium negotiations back in his time? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 This deal won't be completed until there's a new governor. Plus, if you're the state, borrowing money is going to be an increasingly dicey proposition. Inflation control usually means jacking up interest rates where they can touch the surface of the moon. You could be looking at a 1981-esque economy in the next 1-2 years. The timing sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: More bribe money is needed This thing will take 180 more twists and turns before a conclusion is finalized. And folks here are hanging on every little political nuance, suspicion, and feign like it's going to be resolved tomorrow morning at 9:00am. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Seems like the taxpayers of Buffalo and WNY are getting ready to be bent over a table That happens every day when your money goes to support the big city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 I wonder if the Bills are playing a bit of hardball based on their success? It's business. Whatever jokes people seem to want to make at his expense because of the Sabres, Terry has cracked quite a few eggs over the years. He is a cutthroat businessman. I do think he is committed to keeping the team here, but you don't bang that drum then ask for money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Ross Murdock said: No, and there's no Easter Bunny either. Buffalo will be extremely lucky to get the $900+ Million from the state it will take to build the $1.4 Billion dollar open air stadium. The Bills can't sell more than 55,000 season tickets (The Lowest in the league). The Bills are the only team that still relies on selling at least 15,000 game day seats. They sell virtually no corporate suites, where other teams sell hundreds, and some fans demand a Dome. I want to hit the Mega Million. We'll still be lucky to keep the team. This ain't Vegas, LA or Minneapolis. There's less then zero chance of a Dome. From where did you get this? And maybe Terry should pay for his own stadium...in another city? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattymafia Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Ross Murdock said: No, and there's no Easter Bunny either. Buffalo will be extremely lucky to get the $900+ Million from the state it will take to build the $1.4 Billion dollar open air stadium. The Bills can't sell more than 55,000 season tickets (The Lowest in the league). The Bills are the only team that still relies on selling at least 15,000 game day seats. They sell virtually no corporate suites, where other teams sell hundreds, and some fans demand a Dome. I want to hit the Mega Million. We'll still be lucky to keep the team. This ain't Vegas, LA or Minneapolis. There's less then zero chance of a Dome. To be fair, the bills have been stricter about selling season tickets. I live in CT and they denied me and my brother multiple times from getting them because of distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Seems like the taxpayers of Buffalo and WNY are getting ready to be bent over a table Politicians negotiating with businessmen never ends well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 I'm sure there's a few billion in it for discretionary spending as every year and its buried in there. I wouldn't worry too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Ross Murdock said: No, and there's no Easter Bunny either. Buffalo will be extremely lucky to get the $900+ Million from the state it will take to build the $1.4 Billion dollar open air stadium. The Bills can't sell more than 55,000 season tickets (The Lowest in the league). The Bills are the only team that still relies on selling at least 15,000 game day seats. They sell virtually no corporate suites, where other teams sell hundreds, and some fans demand a Dome. I want to hit the Mega Million. We'll still be lucky to keep the team. This ain't Vegas, LA or Minneapolis. There's less then zero chance of a Dome. Funny they cut seasons off this year at 60k, Clubs are sold out and how do you know there's no Easter Bunny ? 2 hours ago, Lost said: Crowd Crowd funding a stadium in today's world doesn't seem that unreasonable. And especially while the bills are playing well, there would be plenty of people willing to fork over cash to make it happen. Really post #1 and thats the best ya can do? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 4 hours ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Drill a well Terry! Frack it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Lost said: Crowd Crowd funding a stadium in today's world doesn't seem that unreasonable. And especially while the bills are playing well, there would be plenty of people willing to fork over cash to make it happen. Terry Pegula just made an account! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 3 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Seems like the taxpayers of Buffalo and WNY are getting ready to be bent over a table Is this anything other that what you are used too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 The Yankees got over a billion from the state for the stadium and infrastructure improvements. The only NFL team in New York State should get its due from the state. You'd think with her background coming up in Erie County politics that she would be behind the Bills. We made her, for the Love of God.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 They will need to get a deal done. Don’t worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 12 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: No there’s zero chance of a dome Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 She knows it needs to be a dome and needs the Pegula's to come to that realization Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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