Gugny Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 If Josh has proven one thing, it is that he is horrible in bad weather. Playing in Orchard Park is the LAST thing we should want. The TEN and JAX losses have enhanced our chances at post-season success. 2 1 6 2 4 2 9 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ClemsonBills Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Josh has had both horrible games and great games in poor weather. I still want home field. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Then we should definitely rest the starters next week, lose to the Jets and open on the road at Kansas City. Brilliant! 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfball323 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Home field advantage is more than Josh slinging it around the yard. Opposing QBs & special teams units need to deal with it as well. We just need to suck less than they do. I have a funny feeling that keeping snow on the field yesterday was a choice made by the team to see how they played in it. The hashs and sidelines were perfectly clean of snow, so they definitely had the option to clear the field. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, st pete gogolak said: Then we should definitely rest the starters next week, lose to the Jets and open on the road at Kansas City. Brilliant! That's not what I said. If we get NE in the first round, beating them should be relatively easy regardless of location. As we get deeper into the tournament, I'd rather see Josh play in better weather. It's really that simple. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 I have felt like traveling might work out for the best in particular if it’s to Tenn. Cincinnati and KC have the same weather possibilities as Orchard Park, but we shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Gugny said: If Josh has proven one thing, it is that he is horrible in bad weather. Playing in Orchard Park is the LAST thing we should want. The TEN and JAX losses have enhanced our chances at post-season success. He is 2-0 at home in the postseason and 0-2 on the road. And he didn't play well in either of the losses. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 so.....glove wearing Mary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: He is 2-0 at home in the postseason and 0-2 on the road. And he didn't play well in either of the losses. He’s also only “played well” in one game, Indy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 And I'm sure the trolling accusations are coming. I'm not trolling. I'm being 100% serious. The way Josh Allen plays in inclement weather will NOT win very many playoff games. 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Only in Buffalo do we not root for home playoff games.... 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 One INT was tipped, one was illegal contact on Beasley.....Allen will be fine...playing at home is important 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Gugny said: And I'm sure the trolling accusations are coming. I'm not trolling. I'm being 100% serious. The way Josh Allen plays in inclement weather will NOT win very many playoff games. I agree to an extent. If we have to play 3 straight playoff games in crappy weather, I wouldn’t be confidant in us making the SB with this team. If we played 3 straight games in a dome, I’m confidant that we’d be playing in the SB 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Only in Buffalo do we not root for home playoff games.... You’ve missed the point of the thread. The Bills, with JA, are a pass 1st team. Additionally the D has struggled against teams built for the power run game. The Buffalo weather conditions in January may not favor these factors. 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, nucci said: One INT was tipped, one was illegal contact on Beasley.....Allen will be fine...playing at home is important NOOCH! Normally, I'm with you. But for this one, I think the proof is in the pudding. It's a trend. I still think the Bills are the cream of the crop in the AFC and I think Josh Allen is the best QB in the AFC. But the bad weather simply does not bode well. I totally agree that a couple of the INTs were not necessarily on Josh yesterday. I also think that early drops were a factor. I'd just prefer nicer weather once the tournament starts. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Just now, Gugny said: NOOCH! Normally, I'm with you. But for this one, I think the proof is in the pudding. It's a trend. I still think the Bills are the cream of the crop in the AFC and I think Josh Allen is the best QB in the AFC. But the bad weather simply does not bode well. I totally agree that a couple of the INTs were not necessarily on Josh yesterday. I also think that early drops were a factor. I'd just prefer nicer weather once the tournament starts. I know...trying rationalize things a bit. I still want to play at home though 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: You’ve missed the point of the thread. The Bills, with JA, are a pass 1st team. Additionally the D has struggled against teams built for the power run game. The Buffalo weather conditions in January may not favor these factors. I didn't miss the point of the thread. But if you are going to ask me if I would rather the Bills have their playoff games at home or on the road, the answer, every time, is going to be at home. Not even a debate. Edited January 3, 2022 by billsfan1959 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 42 minutes ago, Gugny said: If Josh has proven one thing, it is that he is horrible in bad weather. Playing in Orchard Park is the LAST thing we should want. The TEN and JAX losses have enhanced our chances at post-season success. What about Pittsburgh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 Just now, Beerball said: What about Pittsburgh? No. That one pissed me off because we were there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 From week to week, I have no idea what to expect from this team - on both sides of the ball. Will they look focused, prepared and sharp (like last week), or will they look flat, sloppy and disinterested, like yesterday (and a few other games this season)? I'm not so sure that it's the weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, Gugny said: And I'm sure the trolling accusations are coming. I'm not trolling. I'm being 100% serious. The way Josh Allen plays in inclement weather will NOT win very many playoff games. Possibly not, however the late season emergence of the run game and Daboll's willingness to pivot to it will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 39 minutes ago, ClemsonBills said: Josh has had both horrible games and great games in poor weather. I still want home field. Yeah. This was a bad game, but it didn't look like weather was the problem at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 46 minutes ago, Gugny said: If Josh has proven one thing, it is that he is horrible in bad weather. Playing in Orchard Park is the LAST thing we should want. The TEN and JAX losses have enhanced our chances at post-season success. Youll get dredged for this, but I agree. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 46 minutes ago, Gugny said: If Josh has proven one thing, it is that he is horrible in bad weather. Playing in Orchard Park is the LAST thing we should want. The TEN and JAX losses have enhanced our chances at post-season success. What part of 2 of his 3 picks we deflected in the air are people not getting? You eliminate those 2 picks and he wasn't really that bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 33 minutes ago, Gugny said: That's not what I said. If we get NE in the first round, beating them should be relatively easy regardless of location. As we get deeper into the tournament, I'd rather see Josh play in better weather. It's really that simple. Have you been to Kansas City in January? Its colder than Buffalo. Tennessee is no guarantee to be any better. That said home field advantage in the playoffs doesn't seem as important as it once was. Tampa won NFC in Green Bay last year. Countless examples of road teams winning. Trust in Allen, he is our only hope 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, nucci said: One INT was tipped, one was illegal contact on Beasley.....Allen will be fine...playing at home is important Yup, but it was two INTs that were tipped. Give me home. I don't worry about Allen in bad weather any more than good. Edited January 3, 2022 by Thurman#1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Just now, Buffalo03 said: What part of 2 of his 3 picks we deflected in the air are people not getting? You eliminate those 2 picks and he wasn't really that bad Who was the intended target on the first INT? There didn't look to be anyone open, and the INT resulted in a 10-point swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: From week to week, I have no idea what to expect from this team - on both sides of the ball. Will they look focused, prepared and sharp (like last week), or will they look flat, sloppy and disinterested, like yesterday (and a few other games this season)? I'm not so sure that it's the weather. Other than the Colts, we've tended to look pretty sharp against the good sides and sloppy (post bye) against the average to poor sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Bermuda Triangle said: Who was the intended target on the first INT? There didn't look to be anyone open, and the INT resulted in a 10-point swing. We don't know who the first pick was going to but let me ask you this, how many times have we seen him rocket balls in to WRs in those situations where it's like "how the hell did he do that?" If that ball is not deflected, we don't know what happens. The 2nd one was being zipped into Diggs who was wide open over the middle but the ball got tipped and landed in the LBs hands. Those were not Allen's fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 52 minutes ago, Gugny said: If Josh has proven one thing, it is that he is horrible in bad weather. Playing in Orchard Park is the LAST thing we should want. The TEN and JAX losses have enhanced our chances at post-season success. There is nothing… Nothing… That substantiates this post 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 I wouldn't touch this thread with @teef's @Gugny 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 45 minutes ago, Gugny said: That's not what I said. If we get NE in the first round, beating them should be relatively easy regardless of location. As we get deeper into the tournament, I'd rather see Josh play in better weather. It's really that simple. Early forecast for that weekend: Sat 15 31°/23° Snow Showers 36% WSW 7 mph Sun 16 27°/18° Few Snow Showers 33% W 9 mph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 I am feeling Sooooo Lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) At home, I worry about the Bills overlooking opponents, getting too cute, wanting to put on a show, Allen being too amped up, etc. I haven't even mentioned the weather. On the road, I have none of these concerns, and you have the benefits of added focus and an underdog mentality. I feel much more comfortable with the Bills on the road. The proof is in the pudding. The pudding in this case are the stats AND the eye test showing Allen and the Bills are better on the road. For that first round game, I'd honestly prefer to play Indy in Indy, NE in NE, or Vegas in Vegas. It's not going to happen though. The Bills need to start approaching home games as if they are facing the adversity, because they are. Adversity in this case is the false comfort of a homefield advantage and the pressure of expectations. Fans are so indoctrinated into having the goal of home field that they can't see the forest for the trees. Once home field is secured, I believe the team and its fans take false comfort, like I said, which leads to focus issues. I continue to believe that this particular team's best path to the Super Bowl is on the road. If the Bills get eliminated at home and continue to not look like the best version of themselves at home in the future, you have to start asking what the underlying problem is, because most great teams seem to have their best games at home. Edited January 3, 2022 by Giuseppe Tognarelli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thurman#1 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: Who was the intended target on the first INT? There didn't look to be anyone open, and the INT resulted in a 10-point swing. It was to Beasley, who was open, though not by much. It's on the broadcast film, as the third replay angle, from midfield on the far side. I just went and watched it on my international NFLGamePass. But that's Allen's style. We love it when he throws dangerous ones that just get there because his arm is not really an accessory generally available to humans. And that means you have to put up with the dangerous ones that don't get there, as long as there aren't too many of them over the course of the season. Edited January 3, 2022 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 37 minutes ago, nucci said: One INT was tipped, one was illegal contact on Beasley.....Allen will be fine...playing at home is important Two INT were tipped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 39 minutes ago, Gugny said: And I'm sure the trolling accusations are coming. I'm not trolling. I'm being 100% serious. The way Josh Allen plays in inclement weather will NOT win very many playoff games. I would never accuse you of trolling. I would only ask “ is this you?” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 54 minutes ago, Gugny said: That's not what I said. If we get NE in the first round, beating them should be relatively easy regardless of location. As we get deeper into the tournament, I'd rather see Josh play in better weather. It's really that simple. What about the weather, game will be at home. Last game against them at home with weather was a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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