DallasBillsFan1 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I hope you enjoy the Godfather reference. For the record I like Sean McDermott as a head coach, however I am questioning whether he is the right coach moving forward. He has served the team/organization well getting the team ready for primetime, but now that primetime has arrived, is he the right fit and can he get them over the hump to bring this team to the big dance? Good teams head into the second half of the season and into the playoffs leaning on their running game. The Bills have no running game and clearly Singletary and Moss are not the answer. Those two are not scaring any defenses. McDermott being a Defensive Coordinator can see weaknesses in offenses, right? He didn't see that these two RB's are average? What are your thoughts on McDermott and do you think he can get this team to the SuperBowl? Josh Allen enters his fifth season next year ... the window is open only for so long. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Maybe Gruden's available? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I smiled at the reference. And I kind of know what you're saying. I thought of another movie yesterday after the game, "Bull Durham." I love the scene where Crash tells the coach to "scare 'em," and he throws all of the bats into the shower and does the whole "lollygag" speech. That's what the team needed yesterday, and I just don't know if McD is that kind of coach. I mean, I get that this analysis is really narrowing what a coach needs to be, but sometimes you have to make it clear to a team that certain play can't be tolerated. We know BB does that, to a micromanaging fault. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 This is pretty much a copy of this thread: Which was a copy of my thread: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olliemets Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Great Question !!!! "Just help me win Tom" 🙂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: This is pretty much a copy of this thread: Which was a copy of my thread: So whats your point? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedbuffaloblue Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 McDermott is the best coach the Bills have had since Marv Levy. Maybe the team won’t ultimately achieve the ultimate prize this year, but that does not diminish that one bit IMO. This is still a very young team for which the window for championships will remain open for quite some time. The front office couldn’t accomplish all they wanted to do last offseason due to the low salary cap. That shouldn’t be a factor going forward. A couple bad losses following a road loss in Tennessee by one foot and now people want to start questioning everything about this team from the GM and HC down. Most everything this team wanted to accomplish is still right in front of them. Some fans need to back away from the cliff! 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: So whats your point? My point is, the question sucked when I asked it originally. We dont need duplicate dumb ideas! But no offense to the other OPs. It is a topic worth discussing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Did you start this thread just to use the word consigliere? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Did you start this thread just to use the word consigliere? I would allow it. It’s a baller word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 48 minutes ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: I hope you enjoy the Godfather reference. For the record I like Sean McDermott as a head coach, however I am questioning whether he is the right coach moving forward. He has served the team/organization well getting the team ready for primetime, but now that primetime has arrived, is he the right fit and can he get them over the hump to bring this team to the big dance? Good teams head into the second half of the season and into the playoffs leaning on their running game. The Bills have no running game and clearly Singletary and Moss are not the answer. Those two are not scaring any defenses. McDermott being a Defensive Coordinator can see weaknesses in offenses, right? He didn't see that these two RB's are average? What are your thoughts on McDermott and do you think he can get this team to the SuperBowl? Josh Allen enters his fifth season next year ... the window is open only for so long. I have used the wartime consigliere reference like 3 times this past week alone about work stuff!! I also always seem to use the Pentangali brother scenario as a reference quite a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 hes changed the 'culture' but now he has to do some self-reflection and make the next step as a headcoach, and that is to be able to make adjustments to when you have been exposed. theres a formula to beat his team now. he needs to switch things up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Well, he's not Sicilian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I have been saying for a couple seasons now, McDermott is a good solid leader, but I don’t think he really has what it takes to be a great coach in the NFL. Personally, I think he’s worried about being liked too much, should’ve fired Frazier, when he had to take over calling the plays during the game. It’s obvious he’s not happy with the O right now, yet nothing is changing, at the end of the day, it’s all on him. So do we believe that he is going to change, or is Time to see somebody that can actually put it all together? I know Sean McVay’s do not grow on trees, but that’s the type of personality we need here. Unfortunately, I would believe that he is safe, but I don’t believe that he should be. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeLLy1278 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: I hope you enjoy the Godfather reference. For the record I like Sean McDermott as a head coach, however I am questioning whether he is the right coach moving forward. He has served the team/organization well getting the team ready for primetime, but now that primetime has arrived, is he the right fit and can he get them over the hump to bring this team to the big dance? Good teams head into the second half of the season and into the playoffs leaning on their running game. The Bills have no running game and clearly Singletary and Moss are not the answer. Those two are not scaring any defenses. McDermott being a Defensive Coordinator can see weaknesses in offenses, right? He didn't see that these two RB's are average? What are your thoughts on McDermott and do you think he can get this team to the SuperBowl? Josh Allen enters his fifth season next year ... the window is open only for so long. I heard Sean’s comment about McKenzie’s fumble. He’s not the guy for this team. That’s just my opinion. He’s got a cavalier attitude about winning and his quotations book is wearing out from all the press conf cliches. He should have them all memorized by now so he probably doesn’t have to buy a new edition anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Sorry Tom, you're out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, KeLLy1278 said: I heard Sean’s comment about McKenzie’s fumble. He’s not the guy for this team. That’s just my opinion. He’s got a cavalier attitude about winning and his quotations book is wearing out from all the press conf cliches. He should have them all memorized by now so he probably doesn’t have to buy a new edition anyway. Are you really dissecting coach speak again? If you base your qualifications for the head coaching position on post-game pressers then you deserve Rex Ryan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 He's never been here before, neither has Daboll. They need to progress, adjust and adapt just like the players. It's not like we have a Belichick, Walsh Parcells type who's been through it before. Even somebody like John Harbaugh has progressed through it. He either will or he won't. But, he needs to realize they have a problem and adjust- so far it hasn't happened. I think they have a game plan and don't adjust. Something to be said for sticking to your guns. But, part of being a great coach is knowing when it's time to adapt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 48 minutes ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: I hope you enjoy the Godfather reference. For the record I like Sean McDermott as a head coach, however I am questioning whether he is the right coach moving forward. He has served the team/organization well getting the team ready for primetime, but now that primetime has arrived, is he the right fit and can he get them over the hump to bring this team to the big dance? Good teams head into the second half of the season and into the playoffs leaning on their running game. The Bills have no running game and clearly Singletary and Moss are not the answer. Those two are not scaring any defenses. McDermott being a Defensive Coordinator can see weaknesses in offenses, right? He didn't see that these two RB's are average? What are your thoughts on McDermott and do you think he can get this team to the SuperBowl? Josh Allen enters his fifth season next year ... the window is open only for so long. We have a great QB. Tremendously talented and competitive. We have a great WR #14. We have a potentially good #2 receiver. He is #13. We have a very good secondary. Our TE #88 has gotten a lot better. Our young RT looks to be potentially a stud. And #58 at LB is a keeper, and plays like a stud at times. Oh and our kicker is usually really really good also. But the rest of the team especially on both lines and at RB is eminently replaceable. I think with better big guys who are difference makers, McDermott can lead us to where we want to go. Teams win with good coaching. But you need good players first. And we sorely misjudged the talent at key positions before this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Yes we should get someone into that position that talks a ton of big time ***** because that will make the team better.....not have someone strong enough to weather the storm like McD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Yes we should get someone into that position that talks a ton of big time ***** because that will make the team better.....not have someone strong enough to weather the storm like McD 1 vote for bring back Rex 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I like McDermott well enough. Wish Reich was our HC, however. How come we never approach ex-Bills? I remember a game where we were getting blown out (by the Titans?) and our coaching staff was chock-full of coaches who were ex-Oilers from the Comeback Game (Gilbride, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: This is pretty much a copy of this thread: Which was a copy of my thread: Good point ... I didn't look, my bad. I'll go read now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just now, DallasBillsFan1 said: Good point ... I didn't look, my bad. I'll go read now. All good man. I was just taking an opportunity for some shameless self promotion, and some self-deprecating humor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Did you start this thread just to use the word consigliere? Yes. I thought it was clever. But maybe that was the best part of the post? 37 minutes ago, DCofNC said: I have been saying for a couple seasons now, McDermott is a good solid leader, but I don’t think he really has what it takes to be a great coach in the NFL. Personally, I think he’s worried about being liked too much, should’ve fired Frazier, when he had to take over calling the plays during the game. It’s obvious he’s not happy with the O right now, yet nothing is changing, at the end of the day, it’s all on him. So do we believe that he is going to change, or is Time to see somebody that can actually put it all together? I know Sean McVay’s do not grow on trees, but that’s the type of personality we need here. Unfortunately, I would believe that he is safe, but I don’t believe that he should be. Spot on. You said better than I. What happens to Daboll and Frasier after this season if we don't make it to Playoffs. I think it'll be a scenario where McDermott is safe but the two coordinators are let go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: 1 vote for bring back Rex Only if he kept the Buffalo Bills pick up truck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: What happens to Daboll and Frasier after this season if we don't make it to Playoffs. I think it'll be a scenario where McDermott is safe but the two coordinators are let go. Right or wrong...I don't think anyone is let go. I think due to the success they have achieved after such a long drought they will be given another season before such things are considered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just like anyone in a new position, they shouldn't be judged on how they respond to a new circumstance. But, they should indeed be judged if/when they don't appear to be learning from their mistakes. My biggest concern with the 2021 Bills is that they aren't progressing week to week. In fact, they either look and react exactly as they did in early September, or may have even taken a step backwards. You only get so many seasons to win once you've got a supposedly talent-rich roster assembled. You cannot squander them! The window closes very quickly. Come on Sean...show some URGENCY! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I have used the wartime consigliere reference like 3 times this past week alone about work stuff!! I also always seem to use the Pentangali brother scenario as a reference quite a bit. Fredo, I was hungry and he offered me a can of peas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Robert Loggia knew what to do (warning, language, NSFW). LET US PRAY!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 20 minutes ago, Lagoon Blues said: Right or wrong...I don't think anyone is let go. I think due to the success they have achieved after such a long drought they will be given another season before such things are considered. Agreed. It's clear that our starting O-line is average and our backups are pretty bad. And we need a reliable DT. When the entire O-line was healthy and Star was in, we had great success. A couple of injuries and a Covid case later, and we play like crap. The skill positions are pretty well set and I'm confident that Beane will address the shortcomings in the next off-season. McD and Beane are playing the long game. I, for one, trust the process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, nucci said: Well, he's not Sicilian Maybe it is time for the BILLS to "go to the mattresses!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar High JA17 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Pro Football Hall of Fame Coach, Tony Dungy would be a great bills coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 hours ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: I hope you enjoy the Godfather reference. For the record I like Sean McDermott as a head coach, however I am questioning whether he is the right coach moving forward. He has served the team/organization well getting the team ready for primetime, but now that primetime has arrived, is he the right fit and can he get them over the hump to bring this team to the big dance? Good teams head into the second half of the season and into the playoffs leaning on their running game. The Bills have no running game and clearly Singletary and Moss are not the answer. Those two are not scaring any defenses. McDermott being a Defensive Coordinator can see weaknesses in offenses, right? He didn't see that these two RB's are average? What are your thoughts on McDermott and do you think he can get this team to the SuperBowl? Josh Allen enters his fifth season next year ... the window is open only for so long. I don't think Sean has a clue how to evaluate offensive talent. That's up to Beane, Daboll and the scouts. His team may have wasted a couple of 3rd round RB picks but because they're 3rd rounders, they'll get more time to prove themselves. Kinda like Ford? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Cowards don't go to war, do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 In the past I have seen a lot of discussion on "QB Purgatory" referring to teams who have guys like Andy Dalton or who are good enough to get you to an occasional playoff game, and too good to allow you to ever have that tank season to get the top draft picks to get a superstar QB. I am wondering if there is such thing as "HC purgatory", a guy who will never get you to the championship game, but will be good enough to keep you from replacing him as a head coach". Norv Turner and Marvin Lewis come to mind. This is my primary concern with McDermott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimmer323i Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 hours ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: I hope you enjoy the Godfather reference. For the record I like Sean McDermott as a head coach, however I am questioning whether he is the right coach moving forward. He has served the team/organization well getting the team ready for primetime, but now that primetime has arrived, is he the right fit and can he get them over the hump to bring this team to the big dance? Good teams head into the second half of the season and into the playoffs leaning on their running game. The Bills have no running game and clearly Singletary and Moss are not the answer. Those two are not scaring any defenses. McDermott being a Defensive Coordinator can see weaknesses in offenses, right? He didn't see that these two RB's are average? What are your thoughts on McDermott and do you think he can get this team to the SuperBowl? Josh Allen enters his fifth season next year ... the window is open only for so long. I don’t care if I ever see Moss take another handoff the whole rest of the year… I really wanted to like the guy but the bottom line is he sucks and he is as slow as a snail…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 hours ago, KeLLy1278 said: I heard Sean’s comment about McKenzie’s fumble. He’s not the guy for this team. That’s just my opinion. He’s got a cavalier attitude about winning and his quotations book is wearing out from all the press conf cliches. He should have them all memorized by now so he probably doesn’t have to buy a new edition anyway. I don't believe he's cavalier at all. There is a difference between what McD says to the media and what he says to the team behind closed doors. A good manager never calls out an employee in public. That doesn't motivate anyone, but rather makes employees resentful and unreachable. Every coach uses cliches McD is not alone. The only one that doesn't use cliches is Belichick who just grunts and mumbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, jkeerie said: I don't believe he's cavalier at all. There is a difference between what McD says to the media and what he says to the team behind closed doors. A good manager never calls out an employee in public. That doesn't motivate anyone, but rather makes employees resentful and unreachable. Every coach uses cliches McD is not alone. The only one that doesn't use cliches is Belichick who just grunts and mumbles. How do you know what he says behind closed doors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Chaos said: How do you know what he says behind closed doors? I don't. And none of us do. That's the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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