YoloinOhio Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Yikes… . 1 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Some teams are just taught differently. I don't have a problem with lightly grabbing his foot to try to slow him down, thats fine. It was the pull, twist under his body that crossed the line. Mac better be careful 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Wow. Jones should absolutely be fined if not suspended for a game. Belichik is such a pathetic liar, he thought Burns had the ball. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 I think it was obvious he didn’t have the ball. Could he have been trying to prevent him from getting to the ball, yes. But the play was still dirty. Should be held to same standard as a defensive player caught doing that to a Qb 6 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Some teams are just taught differently. I don't have a problem with lightly grabbing his foot to try to slow him down, thats fine. It was the pull, twist under his body that crossed the line. Mac better be careful Yep! 100%. If that had happened to Mac Jones, watch Belichik go ballistic. Haasan Reddick's comments were spot on. 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think it was obvious he didn’t have the ball. Could he have been trying to prevent him from getting to the ball, yes. But the play was still dirty. Should be held to same standard as a defensive player caught doing that to a Qb I dont know the rules on this but even IF he had the ball, are you allowed to twist ankles like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Yep! 100%. If that had happened to Mac Jones, watch Belichik go ballistic. Haasan Reddick's comments were spot on. I dont know the rules on this but even IF he had the ball, are you allowed to twist ankles like that? No, not allowed I don’t think. Not sure. I guess belichick felt it was appropriate in that instance? I would disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Seems like the Pats defensive opponents might have some opportunities to express their feelings on the matter🤔 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: Mac better watch his back. The next pick he throws someone is going to blast him. Hope it's the Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vtnatefootball11 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I would love to say it was a "dirty" play but it just wasn't. Sorry nothing really to see here. He clearly was holding his foot trying to prevent him from getting to the ball. There was no intent to injure. Annoying, bitchy? Sure. But dirty? No, he wasn't trying to hurt the guy just hold on for dear life after fumbling the ball. 1 2 1 1 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Sweep the leg! Strike First! Strike Hard! No mercy! 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I'm no fan of Mac Jones, Belichick or the Pats, but I don't know that this is a dirty play. I didn't see the game live, but it looks like Jones was sacked and the ball came out, so he was trying to "tackle" Burns to prevent him from getting to the ball. He grabbed what he could and held on as long as he could. Burns is a big, strong, fast guy and that's the only way Jones could get him to the ground. It's a hold and should certianly be a penalty, but I don't know if Jones is intentionally trying to injure him. Grab him, yes. Slow him down, yes. Prevent him from getting back into the play, yes. Injure, maybe, maybe not. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, msw2112 said: I'm no fan of Mac Jones, Belichick or the Pats, but I don't know that this is a dirty play. I didn't see the game live, but it looks like Jones was sacked and the ball came out, so he was trying to "tackle" Burns to prevent him from getting to the ball. He grabbed what he could and held on as long as he could. Burns is a big, strong, fast guy and that's the only way Jones could get him to the ground. It's a hold and should certianly be a penalty, but I don't know if Jones is intentionally trying to injure him. Grab him, yes. Slow him down, yes. Prevent him from getting back into the play, yes. Injure, maybe, maybe not. It should be a tripping penalty. You can't use your leg to kick a guys leg out from under him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, msw2112 said: I'm no fan of Mac Jones, Belichick or the Pats, but I don't know that this is a dirty play. I didn't see the game live, but it looks like Jones was sacked and the ball came out, so he was trying to "tackle" Burns to prevent him from getting to the ball. He grabbed what he could and held on as long as he could. Burns is a big, strong, fast guy and that's the only way Jones could get him to the ground. It's a hold and should certianly be a penalty, but I don't know if Jones is intentionally trying to injure him. Grab him, yes. Slow him down, yes. Prevent him from getting back into the play, yes. Injure, maybe, maybe not. You dont twist ankles in the NFL. Burfict was fined $25,000 for twisting ankles versus of all teams, the Panthers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 "As compensation for the hurtful comments that Haasan Reddick has shared publicly regarding the play of Mac Jones, the New England Patriots will be awarded a 2022 3rd round compensatory pick." R. Goodall 1 13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Lol just a fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LeGOATski Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Lol just a fine I could be wrong, but I don't think they suspend after the 1st offense. It takes repeated offenses, maybe within a certain time period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 44 minutes ago, msw2112 said: I'm no fan of Mac Jones, Belichick or the Pats, but I don't know that this is a dirty play. I didn't see the game live, but it looks like Jones was sacked and the ball came out, so he was trying to "tackle" Burns to prevent him from getting to the ball. He grabbed what he could and held on as long as he could. Burns is a big, strong, fast guy and that's the only way Jones could get him to the ground. It's a hold and should certianly be a penalty, but I don't know if Jones is intentionally trying to injure him. Grab him, yes. Slow him down, yes. Prevent him from getting back into the play, yes. Injure, maybe, maybe not. agree completely. I would love for it to be dirty because I hate those guys, but I think Big Mac tried to hold him, and Burns twisted himself in trying to get free and that is why he hurt himself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 IIRC, a number of years ago the patriots Vince Wilpork was fined on 3 separate occasions, in the same season, for poking players in the eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Ring the damn bell! The man tapped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, vtnatefootball11 said: I would love to say it was a "dirty" play but it just wasn't. Sorry nothing really to see here. He clearly was holding his foot trying to prevent him from getting to the ball. There was no intent to injure. Annoying, bitchy? Sure. But dirty? No, he wasn't trying to hurt the guy just hold on for dear life after fumbling the ball. He grabbed Burns ankle and then used his own legs to roll him up while twisting the ankle. There is no way this can be construed as a football play. You have no right to tackle or hold a guy to prevent him from picking up a loose ball. Do you think its any coincidence the guy he rolled up and injured had just laid him out? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) Whats new here. Something the patriots are involved in gets overhyped and not much logic will ever be applied to it..... Edited November 8, 2021 by Ghost_002! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Wow, check out the last 2 seconds of that take down. Jones, on his back, was able to spin this 6'5", 250lb man all the way around by the foot?? That must be some Bruce Lee **** right there.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Of course Belichek defends him. Once disgusting, Always disgusting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Wow, check out the last 2 seconds of that take down. Jones, on his back, was able to spin this 6'5", 250lb man all the way around by the foot?? That must be some Bruce Lee **** right there.... If you were getting your ankle snapped you would torque yourself too to try and relieve the pain. That is what Burns was trying to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: Whats new....something the pats are involved in gets overhyped and not much logic will ever be applied to it. 12 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: Whats new here. Something the patriots are involved in gets overhyped and not much logic will ever be applied to it..... Get the papers...get the papers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) Rhule's backpedaling mid-response tells you that nothing will be addressed and the fear of officials outweighs the integrity of the game. "I'll defend my players... uh that is... if that's okay to do so... please don't fine me or Jerry Hughes us please." Let's move on. Edited November 8, 2021 by benderbender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Many have the same type of sprain from jumping off the Bills bandwagon. 😂 they don't have the ball either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Do The Reich Thing said: If you were getting your ankle snapped you would torque yourself too to try and relieve the pain. That is what Burns was trying to do. I was expecting the crew to come out with the "cold spray" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Of course Belichek defends him. Once disgusting, Always disgusting. So if this was Sean McDermott defending Josh Allen. It would be ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I think it was obvious he didn’t have the ball. Could he have been trying to prevent him from getting to the ball, yes. But the play was still dirty. Should be held to same standard as a defensive player caught doing that to a Qb according to Chris Collisworth, gator rolling is an acceptable form of action to take is you are trying to tackle another player....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, Ghost_002! said: So if this was Sean McDermott defending Josh Allen. It would be ok? No, he plays for the Jaguars. 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, benderbender said: No, he plays for the Jaguars. 😆 ha ha i mean... you guys couldn't make sure the right Josh Allen played better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: Whats new here. Something the patriots are involved in gets overhyped and not much logic will ever be applied to it..... Defend the play. Why isn't it dirty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 You know one thing I really liked about the Rams game last night... The officials blew the game (shocking) with that ultra-soft penalty to Donald for "Roughing the Passer". Immediately on the next play after, one of the Rams players decided to really EARN a roughing the passer penalty. You just know that's why they did it. They were mad that any chance at a comeback was nullified by a horribly bad call, and decided that they'd had enough. If the officials are going to be absolute clown shows on the field, then maybe it's time the players send a league a message and say "fine, we'll police it ourselves." Same situation here. If Mac Jones wants to twist ankles and get Handi-Kraft to pay off his fines, then I hope his opponents police his actions for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Bellicheat said "It appears Mac thought he had the ball". Really Bill? The dude was flailing both arms in an attempt to get free and clearly didn't have the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Defend the play. Why isn't it dirty? One remove the laundry from the situation. Has this player EVER in all his years of playing football ever came off as the type to injure another player? it's already been said, he was just trying to make a tackle or either prevent the player from getting the ball, no ill intent. This happen so quickly especially when you are on the ground, it's easy to think a player either has the ball or is near it. And he has thrown 6 picks prior to that, again has he acted out in a way to try to injure another player before? Edited November 8, 2021 by Ghost_002! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) This is a serious concern. Our O-line is so bad we probably cannot block Mac Jones. Someone send josh and ankle brace! Edited November 8, 2021 by Sharky7337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Wow, check out the last 2 seconds of that take down. Jones, on his back, was able to spin this 6'5", 250lb man all the way around by the foot?? That must be some Bruce Lee **** right there.... It was obvious that he spun down on his own to protect his knee/ankle from being twisted. That said, Jones absolutely twisted one of Burns’ legs while he cut out his other. If a defensive player had done that to a QB, he’d be getting suspended. Edited November 8, 2021 by BarleyNY 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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