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9/26/21 Bills vs. WTF Postgame Thread


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56 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

There were times that Bills were on the other side of that week 1. Remember the 31-0 vs Pats in 2003. Then what happened 

I’ve maintained since that loss that “Stiller” fans will be clinging to that win as they watch the bills play through January and they’re team is sitting at home. 

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4 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Steelers loss was the best thing to happen to this team— specifically, for Daboll. We win that game and we are still running these empty sets and throwing the ball 100 Times.  


The balance and use of Knox and the RBs in the passing game has really helped the offense.

Right it's what been begging for adjustments. Glad they are doing this.

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23 minutes ago, WhoTom said:

 

At some point an announcer was praising Daboll for his masterful play calling, saying he mixed it up, kept the defense guessing, got Josh into a rhythm, etc. I was thinking the same thing during the game, and when he said it, my first thought was, "Yeah - where was that guy in Week 1?"

 

 

Yup, safe short passes to calm down Josh and get his confidence going. Nice run pass mix today. Could've used this against Pitt.  Great gameplan for Daboll and the OL played better. 

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4 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Steelers loss was the best thing to happen to this team— specifically, for Daboll. We win that game and we are still running these empty sets and throwing the ball 100 Times.  


The balance and use of Knox and the RBs in the passing game has really helped the offense.

I agree. They got too cute with that 5 WR crap. 3 WR TE and RB should be the primary group 75 - 80% of the time

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44 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Washington isn't that good either. Nevertheless, I am just gonna enjoy this win and great offensive performance. 

Are you gonna shut up about Allen for the next week? That would be great! 
 

K thanks! 

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20 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Steelers loss was the best thing to happen to this team— specifically, for Daboll. We win that game and we are still running these empty sets and throwing the ball 100 Times.  


The balance and use of Knox and the RBs in the passing game has really helped the offense.

Miyagi San, we’ll said my Sin Se.  I wholeheartedly agree.  Daboll expected some mana Coverage and zone with blitzing in week 1.  He didn’t adjust and we paid the price.  Now that we are more balanced in a 60/40 pass to run, and using Knox as well as some chips meant all the difference today.  I want to enjoy the win as we have another tune up week they won’t overlook where Allen can cement what he knows to do and then the real work starts.

 

The good news with Frank Clark suspended among other things has the Chiefs looking suspect on defense.

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Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

By the way, I thought Heinecki looked good today. Great mobility And his fade to Thomas was text book. I think he will be the long term starter there. He just needs some more weapons and a good defense.

I wouldn't say long-term starter. He is what he is, so they'll be looking for someone else.

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Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

By the way, I thought Heinecki looked good today. Great mobility And his fade to Thomas was text book. I think he will be the long term starter there. He just needs some more weapons and a good defense.

Dude is impossible to sack. Good lord…. I like him a lot. 

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8 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

By the way, I thought Heinecki looked good today. Great mobility And his fade to Thomas was text book. I think he will be the long term starter there. He just needs some more weapons and a good defense.

It was tough to see on TV whether the coverage was just outstanding or whether he was not seeing open receivers.

 

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6 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I wouldn't say long-term starter. He is what he is, so they'll be looking for someone else.


he’s not really though “who he is.” He has 2 starts. his ceiling seems high. The guy is super mobile, great presence, good arm and accuracy. His guys dropped like a thousand balls. All I know is that in his two games, he looks better than any other new starting QB’s I have seen in a long time. 
 

 

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19 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Steelers loss was the best thing to happen to this team— specifically, for Daboll. We win that game and we are still running these empty sets and throwing the ball 100 Times.  


The balance and use of Knox and the RBs in the passing game has really helped the offense.

I couldn't agree more. Daboll must realize the benefit of running the ball (Moss) and throwing more to Knox. It's been a lifetime since we've had a TE threat.

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1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


he’s not really though “who he is.” He has 2 starts. his ceiling seems high. The guy is super mobile, great presence, good arm and accuracy. His guys dropped like a thousand balls. All I know is that in his two games, he looks better than any other new starting QB’s I have seen in a long time. 
 

 

I would hesitate to say "new" because the guy is 28 and has been around the block already. He started nicely but wasn't out of this world. They'll be looking for someone else 

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3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


he’s not really though “who he is.” He has 2 starts. his ceiling seems high. The guy is super mobile, great presence, good arm and accuracy. His guys dropped like a thousand balls. All I know is that in his two games, he looks better than any other new starting QB’s I have seen in a long time. 
 

 

I mean he does seem to have a habit of getting frustrated with not having anything and trying to force things into bad spots.

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7 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I would hesitate to say "new" because the guy is 28 and has been around the block already. He started nicely but wasn't out of this world. They'll be looking for someone else 

 

6 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I mean he does seem to have a habit of getting frustrated with not having anything and trying to force things into bad spots.


I think you guys are being too hard on him.  He has a huge ceiling, IMO. if I am Rivera, I think about giving him a long hard look as the starter. 
 

(The forcing thing is more of a maturity thing— you’d rather see that than a Charlie checkdown). 

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The afterglow

 

1.  Went to my first game this season.  Slid right in around 1115a.  Stadium was full by 1p, so it must not have been too bad to get in at gate.

2.  As many on here predicted, Allen returned to 2020 form today.  He played awesome.

3.  Two plays is all WFT had.  A long catch/run and a muffed kickoff.  And with those two, a 21 point lead was cut to 7 and the buzz was completely different in the stadium in the first half. But.....

4.  The TD drive the Bills had in the 3rd was a backbreaker for Washington.

5.  Give Heinicke credit.  He's a slippery fellow.  Bills crashed the pocket all day and he just slipped away, time after time.

6.  You get a pick, you get a pick, you get a pick (well that one was nullified by penalty)

7.  Who says Allen can't throw the ball in the wind?  Who said that on here?

8.  Great day in AFCE, Bills win and Miami, New England and Jets all lost

9.  Allen's day had him re-enter the MVP discussions. 

10. Knox is rounding into form.

11. Game ball to Oline that kept Allen's jersey clean-ish

12. Bills D kept WFT under 100 yards rushing..  Well done..

13. Seems like once every week Sanders has one stretched-out, finger tip catch.

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1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

 

How do you explain the Jets?

The gap is huge haha the gap between a mediocre team and a great team maybe isn't that big 

22 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I couldn't agree more. Daboll must realize the benefit of running the ball (Moss) and throwing more to Knox. It's been a lifetime since we've had a TE threat.

Daboll def cooks up a nice game plan to maximize mismatches hes just so stubborn about it when his players aren't executing 🤣 wft is pretty weak at LB so a healthy dose of knox/moss was the ticket this game 

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9 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

Speaking of Gabe, did he get injured during the game?  It seems he playing time was very limited after making his reception early in the game.


he’s also got enough tape from last year that any DC worth his salt is like “make sure you know where 13 is” because he roasted defenses all last season on sandlot and sideline plays. 
 

Sanders is an unknown quantity for a lot of defenses so covering him in this play design is still a work in progress. 

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18 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

Speaking of Gabe, did he get injured during the game?  It seems he playing time was very limited after making his reception early in the game.

It appeared that the Bills were playing Sanders today a lot and still keeping Beasley and Diggs in the game.

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18 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

The gap is huge haha the gap between a mediocre team and a great team maybe isn't that big 

Daboll def cooks up a nice game plan to maximize mismatches hes just so stubborn about it when his players aren't executing 🤣 wft is pretty weak at LB so a healthy dose of knox/moss was the ticket this game 


Wonder if Moss being active week 1 would have made a difference. He’s clearly the best back in the running and passing game. Singletary had another drop today.

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Just now, Motor26 said:


Wonder if Moss being active week 1 would have made a difference. He’s clearly the best back in the running and passing game. Singletary had another drop today.

Yea I think he wanted breida split out as a receiver and we kind of outsmarted ourselves without a real backup plan.  Singletary wasn't too effective running the ball either today 

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14 minutes ago, uninja said:


he’s also got enough tape from last year that any DC worth his salt is like “make sure you know where 13 is” because he roasted defenses all last season on sandlot and sideline plays. 
 

Sanders is an unknown quantity for a lot of defenses so covering him in this play design is still a work in progress. 

That is a very good point.

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Just now, K-9 said:

Just occurred to me today was the first game in a while where the refs didn’t royally piss me off at least once during the course of it. They let the trenches play most of the day and I think that’s why. 

I mean if we hadn't scored anyway so often the lack of DPI against Diggs would of been really annoying.

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