FilthyBeast Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said: This is a huge loss imo. Week 1 or not. Now we go to miami for their home opener who weve owned and is going to want to return the favor. Its not a good feeling right now Yah it really is, Miami and Tua are playing pretty good so far in NE too. I know it's cliche but next week is a true must win for the Bills or this season could spiral out of control quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, vincec said: I didn't get the sense that they had an attitude problem. I think they had a game plan problem on offense. I think we have an OC problem. If I'm Bean I'm having a talk with Daboll after today's disaster, which follows other similar disasters against good defenses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, RyanC883 said: OC needs to be better also. You play one dimensional, you lose to good teams. Every time. I like Josh. But the reality he looked like 2019 Josh. And Daboll looked like 2019 Daboll when many were calling for his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Is this team incapable of setting up a screen? You never see them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Drifter said: Punt block was the difference in the game. I'm still salty about the holding call on White negating the int. Lame call. The game had turned before the block. That was a consequence not the cause, IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Wouldn’t be the first time. But I thought he was way slower than bojo getting it off I agree with you, he was too slow getting the punt off, esp. since Steelers showed a max blitz/block on the play. Shouldn't have been a surprise. And some punters would have you know, moved to the side, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Dude get a grip I ain't worshiping anyone. Anyone thinking they can build, coach and play better just makes me laugh. It's a long season and i watch the games to see what happens. Who said they can coach better? or play or build? Edited September 12, 2021 by Rock-A-Bye Beasley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It’s a disappointment, no question about that. But it may be a necessary “attitude adjustment” for the team Yes, this could be such a blessing in disguise. Any extra negativity I might have doesn’t come from a place of this game signaling doom, it just comes from having Steelers fans in my family 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Steptide said: Is this team incapable of setting up a screen? You never see them we will never know as long as Daboll is here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) Today In retrospect I’m thankful for the following. We have our Franchise Qb Daboll didn’t leave for a head coaching gig Levi won or kept the number two job.we are fine with the depth behind Trey We kept the oline together we drafted heavily on D line we improved our punter Zach is back healthy after his injury last season and the Browns are not for real On to week two! Edited September 12, 2021 by loveorhatembillsfan4life 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, mannc said: Are you watching the game? It’s a matter of time… This game is going to be a high scoring one for both sides. 7 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Say what you want about Haak, this protection is unacceptable. Shame on Haak for not blocking all those ppl before he punted it. Lordy, I think our blockers didn't realize the ball got hiked with that poor effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Say what you want about Haak, this protection is unacceptable. both the protection and the punter was horrid on that play. Total disaster, really, a one play picture of the Bills entire game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Why does sloppy mean overconfident? They were definitely sloppy no doubt about that. It's the first game of the season and they were going up against a top 5 defense in the league I dont think they came out like yeaaa this is an easy win lol It’s a fair question you ask. At this point I struggle to quantify it. I guess I felt there were some puzzling choices in play selections and choices that, together with sloppiness in execution, seems like something you see when the team/coaches are “overconfident” and don’t feel they need to pull out all the stops to win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 For any of you that weren’t there, the winds gusted all day long and affected both qb’s greatly. The O line was indeed awful today and Josh wasn’t on the top of his game, but I haven’t seen anyone talking about the winds today. Both qb’s completion percentages and accuracy were greatly affected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, mannc said: Have we closed the gap with the Chiefs yet? I might be more worried about the Browns right now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: umm not on Defense. Take 7 away. So even more on point. Defense holds a team to 16 And you have a 250M QB. You SHOULD win. also they scored 23 They said there wasn't going to be any math. I don't even drink and I'm drunk! On to Miami!! Fish fry time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: we will never know as long as Daboll is here. Considering we had some well-executed screen plays last season, 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngolddigger Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 If my team doesn't have some miraculous run, I'm rooting for you guys. Your team just forgot it was a 3 game preseason and 17 game regular season. Please don't let the Patriots back on top. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Playoffs? said: I might be more worried about the Browns right now! and Cincy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: Who said they can coach better? Have you ever met the guy I was replying too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 53 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: 3 plays lost this game The backwards pass on 4th. The Pi on 3rd down and of course the blocked punt. Actually, it was the Allen run after Singletary’s back to back runs that put us in the red zone, calling for Allen to run at that point was foolish on Dabol’s part, Singletary was running very well and likely scores a TD during that series, yes there was other plays that compounded the situation, but, that series of downs was the point of no return for the Bills. Dabol has shown that he doesn’t understand how to use the run game to compliment the rest of his offensive schemes, it is his Achilles heel as it were, this needs desperately to be corrected, he makes the team one dimensional the way he calls plays, and this makes it easier to defend us, and the rest of the league already knows it. Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: It’s a fair question you ask. At this point I struggle to quantify it. I guess I felt there were some puzzling choices in play selections and choices that, together with sloppiness in execution, seems like something you see when the team/coaches are “overconfident” and don’t feel they need to pull out all the stops to win it. Could be overconfidence lol they'll never admit it so we'll never know for sure... but I thought we pulled out too many stops if anything 🤣 we were moving the ball fine and still trying flea flickers and half back passes and stuff on short yardage situations it was really odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Correct. Sloopy snap, sloopy hold, too much time before he kicked. To me. Haak jacked that. I never understood why we needed to change punters. This guy is slow 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: we will never know as long as Daboll is here. Just watched Cleveland run one for 10 yards. Crazy to think we don’t run one a game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, blackngolddigger said: If my team doesn't have some miraculous run, I'm rooting for you guys. Your team just forgot it was a 3 game preseason and 17 game regular season. Please don't let the Patriots back on top. Thanks @blackngolddigger. I felt like we came out flat today and you “brought it”. Your DL looks like it’s saying “Bud who?” And has depth behind Tuitt. Looked tough today, you were the better team and deserved the win (despite our bitching about a couple of ticky-tack and missed calls). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said: For any of you that weren’t there, the winds gusted all day long and affected both qb’s greatly. The O line was indeed awful today and Josh wasn’t on the top of his game, but I haven’t seen anyone talking about the winds today. Both qb’s completion percentages and accuracy were greatly affected. this might be a good point. Ben had some bizzarly off target passes to wide open guys, mostly RB Harris. That said, our OL and DL are albatrosses that Bean did nothing of any import with, and we will pay the price for that against good teams. Our offensive playcalling is also a disaster against good teams when you need a more balanced approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I'm sick to my stomach. They better wake the eff up on offense 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Didn’t see most of the game as I was at an out of town wedding but it sounds like the bills shot themselves in the foot a lot and played poorly. You can’t win games against playoff teams when you do that. That said I think we will give them the benefit of the doubt that they can clean up most of these issues. If the bills go 3-3 in their first 6 games I still think that sets them up very well to make a good run in the middle of the season. I know everyone wants the 1 seed but just focus on winning the division for now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: and Cincy. To be fair we were up 10-0 in our game haha so Clevelands soon to be 5 point lead doesn't matter much as we learned the hard way 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, blackngolddigger said: If my team doesn't have some miraculous run, I'm rooting for you guys. Your team just forgot it was a 3 game preseason and 17 game regular season. Please don't let the Patriots back on top. Well root for us anyway. It was a close tight game. The person made more mistakes usly lose these types. Bill's made more costly mistakes in the second half. Plus play calling. Anyways not worried hopefully Bills team learn to improve from there mistakes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: Today In retrospect I’m thankful for the following. We have our Franchise Qb Daboll didn’t leave for a head coaching gig Levi won or kept the number two job.we are fine with the depth behind Trey We kept the oline together we drafted heavily on D line we improved our punter Zach is back healthy after his injury last season and the Browns are not for real On to week two! In all fairness, he needs to repeat or come close to last season at least to be considered a franchise qb. This type of performance won’t cut it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I like Josh. But the reality he looked like 2019 Josh. And Daboll looked like 2019 Daboll when many were calling for his job. I'm giving Daboll a short leash after this game and others. He simply is incapable of having a balanced attack, which you need against high caliber Ds. I'm less worried about Josh given the fact the D line was in his face all day, and they only rushed 4. I'm more worried about our terrible OL. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 48 minutes ago, billrooter said: You are right but Pittsburgh was 11-5. 12-4 so we're both wrong lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 45 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: The defense was fine. Yes, Wallace got picked on a bit in the second half, but he was right there on a couple of those plays. The Johnson TD was good coverage. It was just a great play by Johnson. The Steelers have a great group of receivers and overall the D held up their end of the bargain. We lost this game for three reasons: 1. Terrible offensive playcalling, especially in short yardage situations. 2. Horrible offensive line play. (But some of this falls at the feet of Daboll for not sprinkling in more Singletary runs until it was too late) 3. And obviously, the blocked punt TD. Overall, I'm not too worried. And this might have been a good wakeup call for the team that nothing comes easy in the NFL. Nothing on Allen’s many missed throws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Rocbillsfan1 said: Didn’t see most of the game as I was at an out of town wedding but it sounds like the bills shot themselves in the foot a lot and played poorly. You can’t win games against playoff teams when you do that. That said I think we will give them the benefit of the doubt that they can clean up most of these issues. If the bills go 3-3 in their first 6 games I still think that sets them up very well to make a good run in the middle of the season. I know everyone wants the 1 seed but just focus on winning the division for now. This is exactly how I felt watching the game...it was just a bad game with a lot of questionable decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Tough loss. Got to bounce back next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Combo of Allen not at his best and Daboll in his try to be cute mindset. We could have just beat them with fundamental football early, but was out of sorts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Could be overconfidence lol they'll never admit it so we'll never know for sure... but I thought we pulled out too many stops if anything 🤣 we were moving the ball fine and still trying flea flickers and half back passes and stuff on short yardage situations it was really odd Oh, we unveiled “trick plays” a-plenty. But we chose to punt on some short 4th downs I thought we could have made, and we tried to finesse a couple plays that we should have arguably tried to out-physical. Then we tried to go for it when we could have taken points. The “still trying flea flickers and half back passes” is kind of what I mean. We were trying to finesse where “man whupping man” physicality may have been called for. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Don Otreply said: Actually, it was the Allen run after Singletary’s back to back runs that put us in the red zone, calling for Allen to run at that point was foolish on Dabol’s part, Singletary was running very well and likely scores a TD during that series, yes there was other plays that compounded the situation, but, that series of downs was the point of no return for the Bills. Dabol has shown that he doesn’t understand how to use the run game to compliment the rest of his offensive schemes, it is his Achilles heel as it were, this needs desperately to be corrected, he makes the team one dimensional the way he calls plays, and this makes it easier to defend us, and the rest of the league already knows it. Go Bills!!! Yes. I agree with this too. I get it, it’s a passing league, but we have to run occasionally and be better. Gadgets plays on 4 and 1 and mid field while clinging to a 4point lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Boy Cleveland’s running game is looking great. Buffalo better get it together on running the ball that’s our biggest problem. And I can’t believe McDermott don’t no better being a defensive guy. Allen’s going to get hurt with all that stupid running up the middle. Sometimes you have to play power football even if it starts off slow. It will break open then they will have to move more players in the box then the big plays in the air will open up. Right now this is the blueprint to beat Buffalo don’t worry about the run and get after Allen. Good defense will do it we’ve seen it to many times now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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