Doc Brown Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, BornAgainBillsFan said: Could it be that Beane & Co are checking out the new list of available TEs, like a certain one from eastern PA (if the Eagles choose to cut him loose)? And if they don't find one better than Hollister, they'll bring him back? Seems cold hearted, but we are talking about the NFL here. I doubt it as it damages his reputation with future free agents (and current players) if he reneges on a handshake agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 6 hours ago, BornAgainBillsFan said: Could it be that Beane & Co are checking out the new list of available TEs, like a certain one from eastern PA (if the Eagles choose to cut him loose)? And if they don't find one better than Hollister, they'll bring him back? Seems cold hearted, but we are talking about the NFL here. So there are two situations: 1) Hollister is released because the Bills have concluded he isn't enough of an upgrade, and they're either working on a trade for a TE or scouring the cutout bins for someone plausibly better (if they don't find someone AND Hollister is still out there they could re-sign him) 2) Hollister was released as a roster move with a veteran not subject to waivers, in order to bring an injured player onto the 53 so he can return from IR later in the season. The Bills have a "handshake agreement" to re-sign him with a little "extra" for his trouble after this. Either is plausible But if we promised 2) we shouldn't be doing 1) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I’ll wait til 5 pm until I make any assumptions. Back to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Beane made comments that he expects Hollister to sign with another team. I just don’t get it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Color me officially confused. I figured bringing Hollister back was a foregone conclusion. Now they say they do not have that agreement. So, what's the plan? Sweeny is hurt (seemingly always). So Knox can't be the only TE available (yes, I know they can use the FB in a pinch). So they either have their eye on someone in a trade, or as a pickup, is the only thing I can imagine. I STILL believe they may bring back Hollister, just because I'm stubborn.🤪 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 They took a bad TE room, subtracted Tyler Kroft and Lee Smith, and added no one. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: Beane made comments that he expects Hollister to sign with another team. I just don’t get it. Very strange. One healthy TE on the roster with a lot to prove, one injured unproven TE, and a guy in the RB room. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said: Very strange. One healthy TE on the roster with a lot to prove, one injured unproven TE, and a guy in the RB room. gotta be a trade coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Can any of the Olinemen catch? Just from their size, Brown and Doyle could be very effective TE-hybrids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Just now, billybob71 said: gotta be a trade coming Unless we're essentially eliminating the position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Hope Hollister chooses to return to PS if we want him to. Imagine we/he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I really don't understand this move. I mean Hollister isn't a world beater or anything but all we have is Mr. Dropknox and a guy that is always injured. That has got to be the weakest group in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Just now, Tom Donahoe, GM said: Unless we're essentially eliminating the position. could be 4 and 5 wide all year cant say i hate it Just now, billybob71 said: could be 4 and 5 wide all year cant say i hate it tho after watching Kelce kill us i wish we had that for Joshy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 11:21 AM, First Round Bust said: 4 year vets are excluded from waivers and are automatic free agents, has played well enough in a key position to get more guaranteed money, more than the $135k he signed for, mutually beneficial...another wise move by the front office to open a slot, then IR a keeper for short-term and then bring Holister back after that happens I think Holister looked like the best Te on the Roster so him being cut makes no sense 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, billybob71 said: could be 4 and 5 wide all year cant say i hate it tho after watching Kelce kill us i wish we had that for Joshy I like that you responded to somebody. Then quoted that response in the same post, responding to yourself. Your life seems fun. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mango said: I like that you responded to somebody. Then quoted that response in the same post, responding to yourself. Your life seems fun. sorry for breaking forum etiquette not real internet savvy and yes i do have a fun life good sir 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, Mango said: I like that you responded to somebody. Then quoted that response in the same post, responding to yourself. Your life seems fun. Hey a good point is a good point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Ertz trade imminent? For real this time? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Could also be a guy they bring back Monday following week 1. Not guarantee his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Big C said: Ertz trade imminent? For real this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I understand that this team isn't really built around its TEs (obviously), and it's not as if we had any problem scoring points last year with Knox and Lee freaking Smith at the position. But man Hollister certainly looked like a serviceable, low-end starter to me during the preseason, somebody who would make for really nice depth behind Knox and maybe push him for snaps. I don't get letting him walk. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 One thing more about the Hollister release. It probably has something to do with or a lot to do with, Sanders, Davis, Stevenson, Kumerow. They will just run more 4-5 wide instead of three. Hollister is no inline TE. If he’s going to be split we’re better off having a WR out there. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 51 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said: Unless we're essentially eliminating the position. Maybe not deleting the position altogether -- but running a base run-n-shoot style offense may seem plausible. Which of the following receivers would you have preferred to see come off the field in favor of Hollister? Diggs Sanders Cole B. Davis And that does not even take into account McKenzie and Kumerow. For all the drops issues that Knox has, we all knew he wasn't really going anywhere. That meant a competition between Sweeney and Hollister for the other spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrediggerPoke Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 This is baffling. I've watched a lot of Bills football the last couple of years and I've watched a lot of Hollister. Hollister was the best TE in camp for the Bills period. Hollister has a great relationship with Josh. Hollister is a relatively cheap option from a salary cap perspective. I honestly don't understand. There has to be more to the story. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, billybob71 said: sorry for breaking forum etiquette not real internet savvy and yes i do have a fun life good sir I am just busting balls. You didn’t break any etiquette. No worries. Keep doing you. Edited September 1, 2021 by Mango 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/09/01/zach-ertz-happiest-ive-been-in-a-long-time/ “This is the place I want to be, this is the place I want to retire. I’m moving on from everything that happened this offseason,” Ertz said in his first media session of the year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I am surprised. I thought Hollister was that sort of safe low end starter vet. Knox if he breaks out is way better but if he continues to show inconsistency then Hollister gives you a solid baseline of play. Sweeney is a complete question mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 What happened to the gentlemen's agreement? Multiple posters said Hollister would be back. Please help me understand why Morris is on the PS instead of Hollister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 40 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/09/01/zach-ertz-happiest-ive-been-in-a-long-time/ “This is the place I want to be, this is the place I want to retire. I’m moving on from everything that happened this offseason,” Ertz said in his first media session of the year. For some reason it feels like he's more likely to get traded than ever now. 3 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: What happened to the gentlemen's agreement? Multiple posters said Hollister would be back. Please help me understand why Morris is on the PS instead of Hollister. That's what we thought happened apparently not, he'll probably sign on to a 53 somewhere if not I don't see why we wouldn't bring him on to the PS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said: What happened to the gentlemen's agreement? Multiple posters said Hollister would be back. Please help me understand why Morris is on the PS instead of Hollister. Well the "gentlemen's agreement" were nothing but fan speculation. Next Hollister is a FA now. He and his agent no doubt are looking to get him signed to a 53 roster somewhere. Morris (some thought maybe Becker) was next man up for the PS. There is a chance no team wants Hollister on the 53 then he will have to look for a PS team. Maybe that could be Buffalo. During the season the PS does have a lot of turnover. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: What happened to the gentlemen's agreement? Multiple posters said Hollister would be back. Please help me understand why Morris is on the PS instead of Hollister. We exaggerate everything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: One thing more about the Hollister release. It probably has something to do with or a lot to do with, Sanders, Davis, Stevenson, Kumerow. They will just run more 4-5 wide instead of three. Hollister is no inline TE. If he’s going to be split we’re better off having a WR out there. This. Plus, Beasley and Sanders are very good at finding soft spots in zones. When we do go into two TE sets Sweeney is the better blocker and has good hands (although not as athletic as Hollister). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: What happened to the gentlemen's agreement? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 2 hours ago, BillsFanSD said: I understand that this team isn't really built around its TEs (obviously), and it's not as if we had any problem scoring points last year with Knox and Lee freaking Smith at the position. But man Hollister certainly looked like a serviceable, low-end starter to me during the preseason, somebody who would make for really nice depth behind Knox and maybe push him for snaps. I don't get letting him walk. I don't get it either. Hopefully he can find a way on this roster. I just trust Knox about as much as I do Edmunds. Why do I get the feeling the organization has given up on TE's all together..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I trust this front office. They have had many more hits than misses. They must have their reasons and who knows, Hollister could be back. I don't work in an NFL front office (for a reason). I trust these guys know what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 This is a move that doesn't make sense unless he's coming back. Knox has ability but will break your heart with untimely drops. Gilliam is a blocker and short yardage diversion. Hollister was one of Josh's favorite targets at Wyoming and was a contributor on a good Seattle team. If the reason was they thought Sweeney could bring more, I'd go with experience on a SB contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 The two top abilities in football are availability and reliability. Our current TE1 is missing the latter, and our current TE2 is missing the former. At the very least, Hollister had both. He was not injury prone, and he had consistent hands. I see that as an improvement over Knox and Sweeney. And his chemistry with Josh was just starting to return to their college day level. There's got to be a reason for this. Did Hollister steal a girlfriend from Josh back in college?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Hollister was also not re-signed by two different teams, signed to a low contract, and hasn’t found a new home yet either. Not like he’s thought of as a stud around the league. Maybe not even worthy of any 53 although I think eventually he will sign with someone. He was undrafted. The Pats traded him for a 7th round pick. He was released by Seahawks then re-signed to PS before making roster halfway through season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I'm surprised that the Bills don't even seem to want him for the practice squad. They seem to have decided that Quintin Morris is a more worthwhile practice squad stash than Hollister. Huh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Logic said: I'm surprised that the Bills don't even seem to want him for the practice squad. They seem to have decided that Quintin Morris is a more worthwhile practice squad stash than Hollister. Huh. We don't know that. He may not wanted to be here. He may be getting offers from other teams or a just wait a week or two and we will sign you notices. I know you know this, but just because a guy isn't on the PS doesnt mean A or B team didn't want him there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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