BADOLBILZ Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Houstons numbers weren’t dissimilar to Addisons but his play on the field was imo. Houston is and has always been superior. Yeah, Houston has been more individually impactful.......injuries leveled him up with Addison at times but when healthy he's just superior to Mario. 8 sacks......including 2 safety's..........a FF and 2 FR's (Addison was a zilch in those columns). He basically made more than twice as many big plays. If a pass rusher like that is only worth $4M then a guy with like 60% of his production on similar snaps isn't likely to be getting 60% of that..........he's likely to be getting the league minimum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Guy has been on a tour. AZ, Mia, TB, SF, now ATL. Yes, now I remember they gave up a 2nd rd pick for him 😬😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: I mentioned this very point in the preseason thread. Lol Oh wow, we both saw the same thing, even the same comparison!?! The truth is the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Yeah, Houston has been more individually impactful.......injuries leveled him up with Addison at times but when healthy he's just superior to Mario. 8 sacks......including 2 safety's..........a FF and 2 FR's (Addison was a zilch in those columns). He basically made more than twice as many big plays. If a pass rusher like that is only worth $4M then a guy with like 60% of his production on similar snaps isn't likely to be getting 60% of that.......... likely to be getting the league minimum. If he’s even lucky enough to get an nfl contract. I didn’t see much of anything out of him last season that would resemble a solid NFL DE. He’s VERY lucky to have another chance on this super bowl contending team making the pay check he’s making. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Why is this a surprise 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: If he’s even lucky enough to get an nfl contract. I didn’t see much of anything out of him last season that would resemble a solid NFL DE. He’s VERY lucky to have another chance on this super bowl contending team making the pay check he’s making. I can't disagree with this conclusion for the Bills, but around the league I do observe that when a vet who has been productive switches teams and has an off year, he does usually seem to get the benefit of the doubt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Why is this a surprise I think actually, because of the trend I comment on above. Skura started all 16 games in 2018 and the first 11 games of 2019 at C for a team whose QB won MVP in 2018 and had a noted rushing game, and which went to the playoffs both years. Last season he started the first 9 games but struggled and had several botched C/QB exchanges before getting benched. But in the league, when a guy starts and has some success for a winning team, he tends to get the benefit of the doubt even if he has a down year or some struggles. That's what makes it a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think actually, because of the trend I comment on above. Skura started all 16 games in 2018 and the first 11 games of 2019 at C for a team whose QB won MVP in 2018 and had a noted rushing game, and which went to the playoffs both years. Last season he started the first 9 games but struggled and had several botched C/QB exchanges before getting benched. But in the league, when a guy starts and has some success for a winning team, he tends to get the benefit of the doubt even if he has a down year or some struggles. That's what makes it a surprise. Wonder how well he can play guard? Wonder if he clears waivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 54 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: I wonder if it was about his play or because Browns are loaded on their DL? The Browns aren't loaded at DT though. He just wasn't good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Wonder how well he can play guard? Wonder if he clears waivers? He replaced Marshall Yanda at guard in 2017 for 12 games. I wonder if there's something still going on as a fallout from his knee injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin said: Didn't get to see him in game 1 or 2, but honestly Webb and Fromm looked better than Lauletta last night. Woof! Expect to see him among the cuts, to get this back on topic 😄 It's already being reported Lauletta will be released tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Helluva trade 🤣 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Looks like the Lawson for McKinney trade benefitted the Jets the most. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Looks like the Lawson for McKinney trade benefitted the Jets the most. 2 inept franchises walk into a bar… 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 41 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Looks like the Lawson for McKinney trade benefitted the Jets the most. Actually at least Houston got something for Shaq - where as Miami got nothing for Shaq except a player they cut. Miami nets zero Houston nets a 6th Jets get Shaq to fill snaps for very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 This sounds familiar 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Helluva trade 🤣 One of the Dolphins' reporters, Alf something or other was just on locked on Bills with Joe Marino last week saying McKinney has looked amazing during camp and has made Elandon Roberts a backup. He also said Tua has had a great camp..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: One of the Dolphins' reporters, Alf something or other was just on locked on Bills with Joe Marino last week saying McKinney has looked amazing during camp and has made Elandon Roberts a backup. He also said Tua has had a great camp..... Well, that was the Straight Dope I guess! And the Watson trade rumors make the Tua great camp look sketchy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: One of the Dolphins' reporters, Alf something or other was just on locked on Bills with Joe Marino last week saying McKinney has looked amazing during camp and has made Elandon Roberts a backup. He also said Tua has had a great camp..... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 32 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This sounds familiar Did @Sherlock Holmes infiltrate a Giants forum? 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Chiefs have traded OL Yassir Durrant for a 2022 7th Round pick from New England. Durrant signed as a UDFA in 2019. Played at MIZZOU. Has seen some action here and there as a Chief. Can play both T and G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Just hoping they hang onto Jack Anderson. After some development time, he could be great. Then again, I'm definitely biased since he came from Texas Tech 😅 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: This sounds familiar The Boy Wonder still at it: 13-Year Old Davis Sills Commits to USC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) I like FA and the draft better.....you go and acquire talent. Sure the season is about to start and as fans we are happy But now your cutting all that work you have done It must be tough to be Beane right now and the players who are about to have their dream crushed. I think that Whyte kid would be one hell of a back in the CFL Edited August 31, 2021 by JMF2006 sentence structure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, JMF2006 said: I like FA and the draft better.....you go and acquire talent. Sure the season is about to start and as fans we are happy But now your cutting all that work you have done It must be tough to be Beane right now and the players who are about to have their dream crushed. I think that Whyte kid would be one hell of a back in the CFL We should trade him to the Blue Bombers for a draft pick . . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1432693929145737217 Washington is waiving WR Antonio Gandy-Golden, per source. Just another example of Brandon Beane being the smartest guy in the room. I was thinking last year the Bills would draft AGG over Gabe Davis. Obviously that would've been the wrong move. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, zow2 said: https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1432693929145737217 Washington is waiving WR Antonio Gandy-Golden, per source. Just another example of Brandon Beane being the smartest guy in the room. I was thinking last year the Bills would draft AGG over Gabe Davis. Obviously that would've been the wrong move. The WR cuts around the league are going to be among the most interesting. Josh Imatorbhebe was cut and IR'd by Jax last week and passed thru waivers.............there was a guy on here insisting with me during the draft process that he was a generational talent because he had a 48" vertical jump. Nobody even brought him in for a look. I really don't think it's a given that Stevenson gets claimed if the Bills cut him. Plenty of guys have a couple nice KR's in preseason and get cut. He didn't set the field ablaze and had about 4 different injuries in limited snaps. Nice prospect, but after 3 very strong WR drafts there are a lot of them in the NFL now Going to be a lot of guys out there that teams/scouts were intrigued by. Edited August 31, 2021 by BADOLBILZ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boco357 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, boco357 said: Wow! Not even keeping him as the backup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: Wow! Not even keeping him as the backup? He’s seriously that bad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 13 hours ago, Rochesterfan said: Actually at least Houston got something for Shaq - where as Miami got nothing for Shaq except a player they cut. Miami nets zero Houston nets a 6th Jets get Shaq to fill snaps for very little. Houston paid just over $7M for that 6th round pick. That is not good GM work. 9 minutes ago, Bangarang said: He’s seriously that bad. And no need to invite a QB controversy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 45 minutes ago, boco357 said: Not surprised. Jones looked good in preseason and Cam keeps missing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Not surprised. Jones looked good in preseason and Cam keeps missing time. The only surprising thing was that New England resigned him to begin with. He was horrendous last year, and it wasnt just a learning the system thing. He relied heavily on superior physical gifts, and those are gone. The guy is done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty98 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: The only surprising thing was that New England resigned him to begin with. He was horrendous last year, and it wasnt just a learning the system thing. He relied heavily on superior physical gifts, and those are gone. The guy is done. Not really, there wasn't a "good" qb available via FA this offseason. Bill brings back the guy who knows their offense cheaper than using picks to get a good, but not franchise qb via trade. Everyone knew they'd draft one on top of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 So NEs QB depth chart is a promising rook, a failed prospect, and a clip board commando. Sorta looks like QB Purgatory to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 27 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Not surprised. Jones looked good in preseason and Cam keeps missing time. NFL Network is saying that Cam being unvaxed factored into the decision. BB playing three dimensional chess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 14 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: This sounds familiar Must be a lot of Giants fans looking for their minds right now: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: The WR cuts around the league are going to be among the most interesting. Josh Imatorbhebe was cut and IR'd by Jax last week and passed thru waivers.............there was a guy on here insisting with me during the draft process that he was a generational talent because he had a 48" vertical jump. Nobody even brought him in for a look. I really don't think it's a given that Stevenson gets claimed if the Bills cut him. Plenty of guys have a couple nice KR's in preseason and get cut. He didn't set the field ablaze and had about 4 different injuries in limited snaps. Nice prospect, but after 3 very strong WR drafts there are a lot of them in the NFL now Going to be a lot of guys out there that teams/scouts were intrigued by. To be fair, that leap was pretty damn impressive! Maybe not so good at the game of football, however ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, BearNorth said: NFL Network is saying that Cam being unvaxed factored into the decision. BB playing three dimensional chess. There's also the "misunderstanding" about the NFL's Covid testing protocols I expect that may have been "strike 3" 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, BearNorth said: NFL Network is saying that Cam being unvaxed factored into the decision. BB playing three dimensional chess. I'm pretty sure the NFL said this was against policy, let's hope the Pats get fined for this one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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