Buffalo03 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Lol. Wow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, eball said: Agree. For some reason I thought they said all coaches and staff were vaxxed. They are...but you can still contract the virus and spread it even if you are vaxxed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 36 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said: With the Pfizer vaccine now having full approval, there's no reason the Bills can't mandate that every toilet cleaner, broom pusher, and pot washer at OBD be vaccinated. The Delta variant is, however causing quite a few breakthrough cases Actually besides "choice" there are people with allergies to ingredient components (one of my wife's staff is in that situation) and religious objections. Are these people to be put out of a job which is illegal unless you are a federal contractor who can be prevented from working so company lets you go for "lack of work". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Scott7975 said: I hope this crap doesn't happen during the season. It will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Vaccinated people can get the virus and pass it along. Correct? If that is true, it makes no sense to isolate Beasley and Davis for 5 days simply because they are unvaccinated……if that is in fact the case about them and is in fact the policy. What would be the rationale? If a vaccinated Diggs were with them would he be ok to attend practice? If so why? Either all of them and the staff member should be isolated or none of them should be. If the virus can be caught and/or passed along by anyone regardless of vaccination status, then what is the rationale of disparate treatment? Maybe there is one, but it has not been properly explained as far as I can see. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, warrior9 said: Not to derail the topic.... but there are several things that are FDA approved that should not be. Holds no merit IMO. (just do a quick google search) Yes, because Joe Sixpack doing a five-minute Google search can reveal far more information than a legion of professionals with billion-dollar budgets working with a knowledge base that's been accumulated and refined for decades. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, nucci said: Many here have been blaming the policy if you read previous posts I agree, the policy is flawed, and illogical in some ways... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, SCBills said: What happens if any of these 3 test positive, miss their time, and then say, Week 4 this happens again and they're unvaccinated but clearly should have natural immunity.... I'm assuming they still have to miss 5 days again? Good question. I think you're correct. I can't find it now, but I remember reading that the NFL finally changed its policy to reflect the evidence for natural immunity by saying players who had a previous infection + 1 shot would now count as fully vaccinated. Maybe they'll revisit this policy, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineforty Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, nucci said: Many here have been blaming the policy if you read previous posts there is plenty of room for those that think the policy is bad and daily testing for all players needs to happen WHILE also being disappointed in anyone that is not vaccinated. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 A couple more to the list. What a **** show. So the Bills have at least 4 starters and their #4 WR, who should be a big contributor, that are unvaccinated. Sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Process said: A couple more to the list. What a **** show. So the Bills have at least 4 starters and their #4 WR, who should be a big contributor, that are unvaccinated. Sweet 3 starters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 14 minutes ago, BeefCurtns said: I see what you did there. Oh, good catch I missed it. OK, that's subtle enough, and it made me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Process said: A couple more to the list. What a **** show. So the Bills have at least 4 starters and their #4 WR, who should be a big contributor, that are unvaccinated. Sweet This was the Covid Charlie snowball I was referring to upthread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 minute ago, The 9 Isles said: This is really dumb. Overreacting to this extent is unsustainable. These particular vaccines are not the be all and end all and we really need to adjust our perspective on this virus. This can’t become the new normal. People need check themselves. no one is saying they are the be all end all. They help prevent the spread and serious illness 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, The 9 Isles said: This is really dumb. Overreacting to this extent is unsustainable. These particular vaccines are not the be all and end all and we really need to adjust our perspective on this virus. This can’t become the new normal. People need check themselves. I mean they could of been, this is just more fun I guess. 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 37 minutes ago, Process said: If they were vaccinated they wouldn't have been tested this morning.... And they wouldn't be sent home for being a close contact... They aren't vaccinated I could be wrong, but I think every close contact (vaccinated and unvaccinated) is tested immediately and for the next 5 days. The "sent home" bit is correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said: Yes, vaccinated people can catch it and pass it along, however, they are much less likely to do so (by ~80% from what I have seen.). Of course that number may shift with new variants. They can either pass it or they can’t. If the NFL or anyone else is going to get into what percentage chance of passing it is “low enough”, that is pretty arbitrary. Is someone with natural immunity from having had the virus a “low enough” risk? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) If the NFL continues this policy, 2021 will be even more of a mess than 2020. Edited August 24, 2021 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 FFS better now than in season i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 This is a good way for them to get rested up for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, eball said: Agree. For some reason I thought they said all coaches and staff were vaxxed. I think those who didn’t want to vax actually had to resign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Just now, WMDman said: FFS better now than in season i guess right but season is close and it could still happen and these guys would not be able to practice for the opener Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Star continues to remain on my “bad” list. It’s his right not to have the vaccine, but at the same time for someone who sat out all last year, apparently so concerned about the virus, you would’ve thought he’d be first in line to take every precaution necessary to stave off the virus, including the vaccination. I don’t think he loves football and again, I’m surprised he hasn’t been afforded a single game rep yet, regardless of his veteran status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Just now, SCBills said: If the NFL continues this policy - 2021 will be even more of a mess than 2020. I can't wait until the league starts rescheduling games again just like last year. Get ready for a Wednesday home game starting at 3:00 just like they did last years Ravens- Steelers game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, WMDman said: FFS better now than in season i guess It's not like they tested positive and now have protection for the regular season... This could happen every week for the next three months. There is a very good chance these guys miss games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Greg S said: I can't wait until the league starts rescheduling games again just like last year. Get ready for a Wednesday home game starting at 3:00 just like they did last years Ravens- Steelers game. They said they will not be rescheduling games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirusB Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Just now, JayBaller10 said: Star continues to remain on my “bad” list. It’s his right not to have the vaccine, but at the same time for someone who sat out all last year, apparently so concerned about the virus, you would’ve thought he’d be first in line to take every precaution necessary to stave off the virus, including the vaccination. I don’t think he loves football and again, I’m surprised he hasn’t been afforded a single game rep yet, regardless of his veteran status. Maybe he feels his initial fears were overblown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: They can either pass it or they can’t. If the NFL or anyone else is going to get into what percentage chance of passing it is “low enough”, that is pretty arbitrary. Is someone with natural immunity from having had the virus a “low enough” risk? Thanks Cole 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 54 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Can you explain why it makes a difference? If you are vaxxed, and can still get the virus and also pass the virus, why does having a mix matter? Serious question, not trying to be sarcastic. First, it's much less likely you contract the virus if fully vaxxed. Second, if you DO contract the virus you're much less likely to spread it. Combine the two and there is significantly less uncertainty among a group who are ALL fully vaxxed. Add the unvaxxed into that mix and it's all screwed up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, warrior9 said: Where does any of this make sense? I just can't wrap my head around it. Cole is around a vaccinated staff member that was positive. Cole tests negative. Must sit out 5 days because he isn't vaccinated but if he was he could continue to practice....... even though the staff person he was around..... was vaccinated with covid. Make it make sense. It's this simple - the NFL is incentivizing players to get the vaccine because they know that is the best way to prevent an outbreak. No policy is going to be perfect. They don't expect to stop all covid cases. They just want players to take the best preventative measure available to them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Scott7975 said: I hope this crap doesn't happen during the season. What is the saying...crap in one hand, wish in the other, and see which one fills up first. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Just now, YoloinOhio said: They said they will not be rescheduling games. Forfeiting games will be worse. The league will not want to deal with the outrage from the fans. Could you imagine if the Bills season is ruined because of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 My fave was talking to someone complaining that they didn’t want the vax because it wasn’t FDA approved….while they were suckin on a vape pen. Ah-doyyyyy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Star continues to remain on my “bad” list. It’s his right not to have the vaccine, but at the same time for someone who sat out all last year, apparently so concerned about the virus, you would’ve thought he’d be first in line to take every precaution necessary to stave off the virus, including the vaccination. I don’t think he loves football and again, I’m surprised he hasn’t been afforded a single game rep yet, regardless of his veteran status. You should hear what his college buddies say about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Just now, BTB said: What is the saying...crap in one hand, wish in the other, and see which one fills up first. 😉 Ah, one of my favorites from my Gramps’ vault of wisdom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 So if they were vaccinated they wouldn't of been sent home? other vaccinated people were close contact and are still in the facility? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 48 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Yay worse players And how does this create roster spots btw? If they go on Covid reserve we do get the option of replacing them, although I'd be surprised if this lasts into week 1. But if it did, we could use it to keep guys like Marquez into week 1 before stashing him on IR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Greg S said: Forfeiting games will be worse. The league will not want to deal with the outrage from the fans. Could you imagine if the Bills season is ruined because of this? They made the Broncos play without a QB last year. I don't think they see it the same way the average fan does, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 This might have been covered already, but if Bease and Davis were inoculated, how would this situation been different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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