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2 hours ago, Teddy KGB said:

What a thread 🤦🏼‍♂️
 

We’ve got a jealous shot at Yolo and mocking a victim of DV. 
 

Terrible stuff. 
 

 

 

I'm with you. I didn't even want to post in this thread but wanted to support your take. Horrendous thread from the get-go. Exposes some of the worst in some posters.

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4 hours ago, Bubba Gump said:

Paging Dr. @teef, paging Dr. @teef

@teef is indisposed...he was taking liberties with the Nitrous again. His sidekick Sherlock DDS at your service:death:

6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I don't *think* defensive ends are allowed to punch the QB in the mouth, and I'm pretty sure the QB is allowed to stiff-arm or lower a shoulder into them

 

Ooooh Truth hurts

 

It's really a lose-lose situation for Haskins here, isn't it? 

If he hits back, he's committing DV and "A Real Man never, ever hits a woman". 

If he can't contain her and gets clocked, he's a wuss getting "sacked" by her.

Nah, self-defense🧐

2 hours ago, The Dean said:

 

 

I'm with you. I didn't even want to post in this thread but wanted to support your take. Horrendous thread from the get-go. Exposes some of the worst in some posters.

You forgot the horrendous hot take from @YoloinOhio... "Dwayne Hasbeen>>>Josh Allen", ouchie:lol:

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39 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

@teef is indisposed...he was taking liberties with the Nitrous again. His sidekick Sherlock DDS at your service:death:

 

Teef in the county lockup again? 😆

 

Sherlock, do you do "grillz" on the down low?? 

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16 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Division I basketball player (Michigan state) with a giant ring on her hand 

I guess because DV jokes are hilarious? 🙄


 

I will not say anything about the violence because it is terrible in every situation and no one deserves to be ridiculed in a DV situation.  Just a sad and tragic situation.

 

What I will ask is what the heck is a former Ohio State player doing with a Michigan State girl - that is some Romeo v. Juliet stuff there.  There is a natural and powerful hatred between those 2 schools - although Michigan is probably even worse than M State, but still.

 

I feel bad for Dwayne because he has done nothing wrong and we don’t even know a small part of the story and he is getting killed for absolutely no reason - sad state of affairs and nearly as bad as some comments in the Mingo thread.

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4 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

What an excuse to take a shot at Yolo.  Haskins doesn’t realize he’s washed up yet.

Bottom line for me is just another goof on Ohio State QBs. I look at Yolo as collateral damage. It happens.

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9 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:

I feel bad for Dwayne because he has done nothing wrong and we don’t even know a small part of the story and he is getting killed for absolutely no reason - sad state of affairs and nearly as bad as some comments in the Mingo thread.

 

On the one hand, I agree with you completely - we don't know the story, and according to the charges he's the victim here, he's done nothing wrong.

 

On the other hand, we all know that the amount of "distraction" and Drama a team will tolerate is linked to the player's expected on-field contributions.  Shady McCoy after 1000+ yd season: High.  Backup-quality QB fighting for a roster spot: Low.  So from that perspective, what Haskins has done wrong is to get involved in a Drama-prone situation where "bad things happen": excessive drinking, domestic arguments, etc.  I think that was the message Big Ben got: look, you may or may not have done anything legally wrong, you don't have charges against you, but you're putting yourself in situations that draw Drama, and it needs to stop.

 

On the third hand there's this:
 

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In a separate interview, Gondrezick-Haskins told investigators she tried to stop a fight between Dwayne Haskins and one of his friends earlier in the evening. She said she had fallen to the floor during that altercation and hit the back of her head, telling police she had head and neck pain, as well as bruises on her legs. Police noted that she "could not remember who, if anyone had battered her."

 

That's a song I'm sure those officers have heard before on a "domestic" call - someone who shows physical signs of abuse shifts the blame or "can't remember"

 

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The report says she told police she was not sure what happened to Dwayne Haskins but suggested he got into a fight with his friend. Officers told her she was accused of punching Dwayne Haskins and the report says she asked if he was the one accusing her. It goes on to say she told investigators he could not be arrested "because of his occupation."

 

That's another song those officers have heard before - someone who shows physical signs of abuse holds back from testimony that could lead to charges because they don't want to damage the livelihood of the person who may have committed the abuse (or initially testifies, then recants)

 

I'm not saying that Haskins did anything wrong, I'm just saying there are a few clues that he may have had a physical part in a physical altercation and there may have been a reason his wife/fiance took a swing at him (if she did)

 

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Two friends of Gondrezick-Haskins were interviewed by police as well. The report says they both heard the couple arguing. One friend said they saw the couple "tussling," which is described as mutual shoving and pushing in the report.

 

So there's that.

 

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8 hours ago, Rico said:

Bottom line for me is just another goof on Ohio State QBs. I look at Yolo as collateral damage. It happens.

 

 

And in fairness........the collateral one in this exercise openly complained on TSW that Haskins was better than Allen.......when Haskins was still in college.

 

No big deal,   some people still don't like Josh Allen.   To each their own.

 

The OP was tryna' draw some relevance to the Bills within the topic.    Some wanted to ditch Josh and get them a Haskins.  Bullet dodged!    

 

Really strange how the ace linker managed to TOTALLY miss THIS story about his one time favorite superstar college QB though.🤔

 

Reading some related takes and who was on board.......perhaps he missed an opportunity to spawn a "Haskins Heroes" task force on DV and perhaps become a key component of a "Her Too!" movement.    

 

Anywhoo........gotta' love all the people of varying authority making dv jokes and then tryna pile on our humble narrator.   SMH, as they say.

 

That OP made some great points........what's the problem?    Not as much Josh Allen love on this board as their should be.........he's been good,  no?:beer:

 

 

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On 7/15/2021 at 3:38 PM, BADOLBILZ said:

This dude doesn't understand how to keep himself out of sitches that make him look like he's not worth a team's effort.

 

Wasn't that long ago that @YoloinOhio was lamenting that the Bills ended up with "Just-Josh" Allen when Haskins was going to be available in the next draft.

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/07/15/reports-dwayne-haskins-injured-in-domestic-violence-incident-by-wife/

 

 

 

Would it be too much effort to post original instead of profootball clickbait article?

Steelers QB Haskins loses a tooth; wife arrested after dispute at The Cosmopolitan

https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/steelers-qb-haskins-loses-a-tooth-wife-arrested-after-dispute-at-the-cosmopolitan/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=t.co&utm_campaign=socialflow

 

That subject is much clearer by the way.

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25 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

And in fairness........the collateral one in this exercise openly complained on TSW that Haskins was better than Allen.......when Haskins was still in college.

 

No big deal,   some people still don't like Josh Allen.   To each their own.

 

The OP was tryna' draw some relevance to the Bills within the topic.    Some wanted to ditch Josh and get them a Haskins.  Bullet dodged!    

 

Really strange how the ace linker managed to TOTALLY miss THIS story about his one time favorite superstar college QB though.🤔

 

Reading some related takes and who was on board.......perhaps he missed an opportunity to spawn a "Haskins Heroes" task force on DV and perhaps become a key component of a "Her Too!" movement.    

 

Anywhoo........gotta' love all the people of varying authority making dv jokes and then tryna pile on our humble narrator.   SMH, as they say.

 

That OP made some great points........what's the problem?    Not as much Josh Allen love on this board as their should be.........he's been good,  no?:beer:

 

 

You know, whenever I see people outraged & bent out of shape in here over other people’s takes, all I can say is ‘Welcome To The Internet’. :thumbsup:

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On 7/15/2021 at 3:50 PM, offyourocker said:

this events really show how important it is to check people's character just as much as talent.

What has this incident to do with HIS character? HE was the victim of domestic abuse and she really wailed on him! He probably didn’t even try to defend himself.  While I don’t think he is a good QB this here is horrible and I hope he can remove himself from the situation before he ends up dead. 

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30 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

What has this incident to do with HIS character? HE was the victim of domestic abuse and she really wailed on him! He probably didn’t even try to defend himself.  While I don’t think he is a good QB this here is horrible and I hope he can remove himself from the situation before he ends up dead. 

 

Your kind probably also think Aaron Hernandez was an unfortunate victim having his bullet stolen by that guy who hid it in his body. 

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11 hours ago, jeremy2020 said:

 

Your kind probably also think Aaron Hernandez was an unfortunate victim having his bullet stolen by that guy who hid it in his body. 

The story as written has him as the victim till I see anything saying he did something I will go with what I know.

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23 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

On the one hand, I agree with you completely - we don't know the story, and according to the charges he's the victim here, he's done nothing wrong.

 

On the other hand, we all know that the amount of "distraction" and Drama a team will tolerate is linked to the player's expected on-field contributions.  Shady McCoy after 1000+ yd season: High.  Backup-quality QB fighting for a roster spot: Low.  So from that perspective, what Haskins has done wrong is to get involved in a Drama-prone situation where "bad things happen": excessive drinking, domestic arguments, etc.  I think that was the message Big Ben got: look, you may or may not have done anything legally wrong, you don't have charges against you, but you're putting yourself in situations that draw Drama, and it needs to stop.

 

On the third hand there's this:
 

 

That's a song I'm sure those officers have heard before on a "domestic" call - someone who shows physical signs of abuse shifts the blame or "can't remember"

 

 

That's another song those officers have heard before - someone who shows physical signs of abuse holds back from testimony that could lead to charges because they don't want to damage the livelihood of the person who may have committed the abuse (or initially testifies, then recants)

 

I'm not saying that Haskins did anything wrong, I'm just saying there are a few clues that he may have had a physical part in a physical altercation and there may have been a reason his wife/fiance took a swing at him (if she did)

 

 

So there's that.

 

Comparing Big Ben to Haskins is a bit of a stretch. I mostly agree with your sentiment, but Big Ben likely serves jail time if he didn’t have resources/fame, Haskins has just been a goofball imo. I think I just felt the need to point this out because I can’t stand Big Ben 😆 Haskins hasn’t done enough to make my list of least liked NFL players yet. Big Ben was terrible off the field early in his career. I will agree that “distraction” is going to be viewed differently when you consider a star QB vs a bust like Haskins. 

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18 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Comparing Big Ben to Haskins is a bit of a stretch. I mostly agree with your sentiment, but Big Ben likely serves jail time if he didn’t have resources/fame, Haskins has just been a goofball imo. I think I just felt the need to point this out because I can’t stand Big Ben 😆 Haskins hasn’t done enough to make my list of least liked NFL players yet. Big Ben was terrible early in his career. I will agree that “distraction” is going to be viewed differently when you consider a star QB vs a bust like Haskins. 


Big Ben was not terrible early in his career unless u put him up against the stats of today.

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6 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:


Big Ben was not terrible early in his career unless u put him up against the stats of today.

I need to rephrase my statement, I meant that Big Ben was a terrible person. Haskins has just been foolish. 

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3 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

The story as written has him as the victim till I see anything saying he did something I will go with what I know.

 

https://www.ktnv.com/news/crime/wife-of-steelers-dwayne-haskins-arrested-in-las-vegas-accused-of-battery

 

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In a separate interview, Gondrezick-Haskins told investigators she tried to stop a fight between Dwayne Haskins and one of his friends earlier in the evening. She said she had fallen to the floor during that altercation and hit the back of her head, telling police she had head and neck pain, as well as bruises on her legs. Police noted that she "could not remember who, if anyone had battered her."

 

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The report says she told police she was not sure what happened to Dwayne Haskins but suggested he got into a fight with his friend. Officers told her she was accused of punching Dwayne Haskins and the report says she asked if he was the one accusing her. It goes on to say she told investigators he could not be arrested "because of his occupation."

 

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Two friends of Gondrezick-Haskins were interviewed by police as well. The report says they both heard the couple arguing. One friend said they saw the couple "tussling," which is described as mutual shoving and pushing in the report.

 

Taken at face value, Haskins was "fighting with a friend" such that his wife, who tried to stop it, injured her head and neck and got bruises on her legs, but strangely, she can't remember who injured her and Haskins "can not be arrested".  Then Haskins had some kind of physical struggle with her, observed by friends.

She battered him and she is responsible and he is a victim.  But at the most charitable interpretation, Haskins was also fighting (oh excuse me "tussling") with a friend and with her.  At the least charitable interpretation, this is a story DV people have heard before and there are two sides.

 

37 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

I need to rephrase my statement, I meant that Big Ben was a terrible person. Haskins has just been foolish. 

 

Now, now, Roethlisberger's been a married man for a decade now with 3 kids and a dog.

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1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

https://www.ktnv.com/news/crime/wife-of-steelers-dwayne-haskins-arrested-in-las-vegas-accused-of-battery

 

 

 

 

Taken at face value, Haskins was "fighting with a friend" such that his wife, who tried to stop it, injured her head and neck and got bruises on her legs, but strangely, she can't remember who injured her and Haskins "can not be arrested".  Then Haskins had some kind of physical struggle with her, observed by friends.

She battered him and she is responsible and he is a victim.  But at the most charitable interpretation, Haskins was also fighting (oh excuse me "tussling") with a friend and with her.  At the least charitable interpretation, this is a story DV people have heard before and there are two sides.

 

 

Now, now, Roethlisberger's been a married man for a decade now with 3 kids and a dog.


John Wayne Gacy was married w/ kids also. 

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1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

John Wayne Gacy was married w/ kids also. 

 

Now, now. 

 

Harsh critics may make the point that Roethlisburger was a bit of a  "clown act" in his playoff game last season, but Heinz Field will never be a Children's Hospital.  Though who knows what those Yinzers might get up to

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18 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

What has this incident to do with HIS character? HE was the victim of domestic abuse and she really wailed on him! He probably didn’t even try to defend himself.  While I don’t think he is a good QB this here is horrible and I hope he can remove himself from the situation before he ends up dead. 

Yeah, I just don’t tolerate people blowing up on me and yelling at me. I keep my cool and when it’s over, I walk away. I don’t raise my voice at anyone, so in my mind nobody should raise their voice at me. But like you said, he should just walk away, unless he truly did something that rightfully triggered his wife.

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14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Now, now. 

 

Harsh critics may make the point that Roethlisburger was a bit of a  "clown act" in his playoff game last season, but Heinz Field will never be a Children's Hospital.  Though who knows what those Yinzers might get up to


Clown act.

 

Touche 👍

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19 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

What has this incident to do with HIS character? HE was the victim of domestic abuse and she really wailed on him! He probably didn’t even try to defend himself.  While I don’t think he is a good QB this here is horrible and I hope he can remove himself from the situation before he ends up dead. 

 

 

One's character is defined as their "mental and moral" qualities.........not just "moral" qualities.

 

Haskins is a bad decision maker.

 

The person who has gotten the most into this thread is a guy who reads an article on a subject and then thinks he's an expert.........his idea of going out and having a good time is probably taking his dog for a walk.

 

As someone who has had a number of all-nighters in Vegas.........there are just so many "seeming" bad decisions by Haskins that it's hard to think that he didn't make a bunch of them.

 

1) Don't leave your wife or GF behind if they are expecting you to wait for them.    This show a lack of emotional intelligence.    It may take an extra hour for them to get ready......they may just want to look their best or maybe they are drinking and having fun and lose track of time.   But don't leave without them.    Right or wrong,  that's a trigger.

 

2) If you are taking them to "a show" where they are watching pro dancers jump around in their underwear.........and you are going to a club with young women getting drunk and making bad decisions....mostly without underwear on..........you need to understand that dynamic.    The women do.   Escort them to their show........they don't want to show up looking like a bunch of desperate free agents too a male revue.     And by ditching them you are looking WAY too over-anxious to be getting to that other place.  

 

3) Have a plan for if your wife/gf or the friends you hang out with gets out of control drunk.    Have a plan in general when you are putting yourself in harms way for the pursuit of fun.   This was not Duh-wayne's first night out and he knows his career is hanging by a string, if not a thread.   No excuse for that guy to not know what can happen.    Big drop in salary going from NFL QB to working in the range of a rental car company or handing out advil samples for GSK like some of the Ohio State football players I've known.

 

This is all BEFORE the alleged fighting with a friend and injuring of his wife and the subsequent scuffle between them and getting his bite re-arranged.    If your wife pushes you.......don't push her back and escalate the situation.   His wife is a big girl at 5'8" but she is still dwarfed by him.   It definitely seems like he made a number of poor decisions before ultimately feeling he had to call security..........and he is exceptionally stupid if the didn't think telling them that his wife assaulted him wasn't going to result in the police coming.

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

One's character is defined as their "mental and moral" qualities.........not just "moral" qualities.

 

Haskins is a bad decision maker.

 

The person who has gotten the most into this thread is a guy who reads an article on a subject and then thinks he's an expert.........his idea of going out and having a good time is probably taking his dog for a walk.

 

As someone who has had a number of all-nighters in Vegas.........there are just so many "seeming" bad decisions by Haskins that it's hard to think that he didn't make a bunch of them.

 

1) Don't leave your wife or GF behind if they are expecting you to wait for them.    This show a lack of emotional intelligence.    It may take an extra hour for them to get ready......they may just want to look their best or maybe they are drinking and having fun and lose track of time.   But don't leave without them.    Right or wrong,  that's a trigger.

 

2) If you are taking them to "a show" where they are watching pro dancers jump around in their underwear.........and you are going to a club with young women getting drunk and making bad decisions....mostly without underwear on..........you need to understand that dynamic.    The women do.   Escort them to their show........they don't want to show up looking like a bunch of desperate free agents too a male revue.     And by ditching them you are looking WAY too over-anxious to be getting to that other place.  

 

3) Have a plan for if your wife/gf or the friends you hang out with gets out of control drunk.    Have a plan in general when you are putting yourself in harms way for the pursuit of fun.   This was not Duh-wayne's first night out and he knows his career is hanging by a string, if not a thread.   No excuse for that guy to not know what can happen.    Big drop in salary going from NFL QB to working in the range of a rental car company or handing out advil samples for GSK like some of the Ohio State football players I've known.

 

This is all BEFORE the alleged fighting with a friend and injuring of his wife and the subsequent scuffle between them and getting his bite re-arranged.    If your wife pushes you.......don't push her back and escalate the situation.   His wife is a big girl at 5'8" but she is still dwarfed by him.   It definitely seems like he made a number of poor decisions before ultimately feeling he had to call security..........and he is exceptionally stupid if the didn't think telling them that his wife assaulted him wasn't going to result in the police coming.

 

 

 

 


I might add to this, poor decision-making in terms of who he’s surrounding himself with.  He needs at least one friend who serves as a conscience to stop him from getting into a hot water, and/or a “fixer” if it’s too late for that.  I’ll also add, I’ve said many times, you don’t really know a true friend until he’s pulled you out of a Vegas strip club at 3 am and stuffed you into a cab and probably paid for the dances you passed out during.  Just saying.  True friends are rare and you need to make sure you have them and know who they are.

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5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

As someone who has had a number of all-nighters in Vegas.........there are just so many "seeming" bad decisions by Haskins that it's hard to think that he didn't make a bunch of them.

 

1) Don't leave your wife or GF behind if they are expecting you to wait for them.    This show a lack of emotional intelligence.    It may take an extra hour for them to get ready......they may just want to look their best or maybe they are drinking and having fun and lose track of time.   But don't leave without them.    Right or wrong,  that's a trigger.

 

2) If you are taking them to "a show" where they are watching pro dancers jump around in their underwear.........and you are going to a club with young women getting drunk and making bad decisions....mostly without underwear on..........you need to understand that dynamic.    The women do.   Escort them to their show........they don't want to show up looking like a bunch of desperate free agents too a male revue.     And by ditching them you are looking WAY too over-anxious to be getting to that other place.  

 

3) Have a plan for if your wife/gf or the friends you hang out with gets out of control drunk.    Have a plan in general when you are putting yourself in harms way for the pursuit of fun.   This was not Duh-wayne's first night out and he knows his career is hanging by a string, if not a thread.   No excuse for that guy to not know what can happen.    Big drop in salary going from NFL QB to working in the range of a rental car company or handing out advil samples for GSK like some of the Ohio State football players I've known.

 

Once a young guy gets sufficiently oiled, whatever decisions (good or bad) he made in a sober state go fluttering off like evening swallows seeking a roost.  Has been that way, will be that way.

 

"Pre-gaming" being a Big Thing with the 20 year old set these days, when asked "was Haskins already too drunk to think when he headed out for the evening?"  the Magic 8 Ball says "almost certainly so".

 

That's likely to be the root cause bad decision - getting real drunk without having a backup plan to hand his decision making off to someone who remained capable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:


She battered him and she is responsible and he is a victim.  But at the most charitable interpretation, Haskins was also fighting (oh excuse me "tussling") with a friend and with her.  At the least charitable interpretation, this is a story DV people have heard before and there are two sides.

 

Question: what/who are "DV people"? (I do understand the abbreviation to mean domestic violence, mind you.) Odd phrasing to my ear/eye.

 

Just first responders/social workers/law enforcement types? Or, like...fans of it?

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