A closer look at Boogie Basham

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Athletic article by Joe B:

https://theathletic.com/2651325/2021/06/22/boogie-basham-film-study-what-does-the-bills-second-round-pick-do-well-and-where-is-he-limited/

 

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As for Basham, the Bills are getting someone who plays the same position as Rousseau in title only, adding a complementary piece to the skill-sets they already have on the roster.

 

Strengths:

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Basham (6-foot-3, 281 pounds, 32.5-inch arm length) is built much differently than Rousseau, and shines in ways that work well with the Bills’ first-round pick. Basham looks like a defensive tackle in the Bills’ scheme with the chops to play defensive end. His tape shows the same.

His best wins are usually to the inside when he can use his recognition skills of the blocker and combine them with an explosive burst and hand movement to get to the quarterback. Basham loves the stutter-step to inside swim move, as it allows him to use his best attributes when in a one-on-one situation. It’s a fun move to watch because he also brings closing speed to the table.

 

Joe points out a couple plays where he excelled as a 3TDT and speculates that may be his future in the NFL.  Says he also creates opportunities for teammates on stunts:

 

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Finishing the play is one thing for a defensive lineman, but constantly creating opportunities for teammates can take a player to a higher level. On stunts, Basham shows a knack for setting up his teammates for success. The best part is that it doesn’t matter if he starts from the outside or inside, which makes him even more versatile and dangerous.

 

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Because Basham is so compact compared to other edge rushers, he rarely has difficulty staying level and balanced while initiating and fighting through contact. If anything, his overall strength will knock an offensive lineman off-balance. When you combine that strength and balance with some heavy, violent hand fighting, it makes him a chore to block.

 

Joe B says his strength, balance and power also make him a strong factor in run D

 

Weaknesses:

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Lacks quickness in bend

Although Basham shows plenty of explosiveness off the line of scrimmage and in his athletic testing, he’s not quite the same edge defender as Rousseau based on some limitations. Despite being tall and long-limbed, Rousseau has a much easier time bending around the edge on wide rush attempts. It helps lead to wins against slower right tackles. This is where Basham struggles and can get caught if going for a pure wide rush.

 

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Slight tightness in change of direction

Along a similar line of thinking, you can also see some tightness in Basham’s movement skills that prevents him from exploding out of an uneven body stance to make a play......This tightness isn’t an overwhelming problem for a bigger player like Basham. Still, in open-field one-on-one chances, his probability of coming away with the tackle is worse than what we saw from Rousseau and his ability to change directions from awkward body positioning.

 

Joe B thinks Basham has a stronger chance to become a Year 1 contributor than Rousseau because he is older with more experience, and Joe believes he can play either side at end as well as 3TDT or a hybrid role (what the Bills likely hoped Q would contribute)

 

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Even if the big statistical years never show up for Basham, they’ll be getting a rotational defender at two positions at worst. At best, they could be getting a versatile starting defender who gets 60-to-70 percent of snaps who thrives with setting up teammates and himself.

 

[TailgateChef]

The odds, combined with a solid scouting dept, suggest that one of them is going to be a star some day.  10-11 sacks a season by year 3 or 4.  One might ever become a superstar.

[Rocket94]

39 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Athletic article by Joe B:

https://theathletic.com/2651325/2021/06/22/boogie-basham-film-study-what-does-the-bills-second-round-pick-do-well-and-where-is-he-limited/

 

 

Strengths:

 

Joe points out a couple plays where he excelled as a 3TDT and speculates that may be his future in the NFL.  Says he also creates opportunities for teammates on stunts:

 

 

 

Joe B says his strength, balance and power also make him a strong factor in run D

 

Weaknesses:

 

 

Joe B thinks Basham has a stronger chance to become a Year 1 contributor than Rousseau because he is older with more experience, and Joe believes he can play either side at end as well as 3TDT or a hybrid role (what the Bills likely hoped Q would contribute)

 

 

Excellent Post! Basham may be John Randle like!

[Freddie's Dead]

I've got a ton of "Boogie" songs lined up for every sack he gets....

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Cover1 transcribed some of Leslie Frazier's press conference where he talked about Basham:

 

https://www.cover1.net/buffalo-bills-carlos-basham-leslie-frazier/

 

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“Carlos, he’s a little farther along [than Rousseau] because he’s played more football in college, so he’s probably a little more polished in that way,” said Fraizer. “He also has the ability to play both inside and outside, much like Greg does, but he’s a heavier guy who can probably play on early downs inside, as well on the edge on early downs, so he gives you some versatility that you don’t often see in a rookie.”

It’s well known that the Bills value positional flexibility on both sides of the line and like being able to kick their edge rushers inside in obvious passing situations. Former Bills defensive end Shaq Lawson did this often, but the team didn’t really have that player on the roster last season. Buffalo’s recent free agent acquisition Efe Obada, formerly of the Carolina Panthers, is another player with experience doing exactly this.

 

The Cover1 guys also turned up Basham's snap counts from Wake Forest:

 

 

Looks like he was rocking 15-30% of his snaps at either DT or ?LB(!!) 

 

Love someone who watches college ball to tell me what was up with that last --- How was he being used?

[Victory Formation]

I think Boogie will be an elite EDGE at the next level. I’m thinking that between him and Oliver this DL will set the tempo for the rest of this Bills defense this year. I think he will lineup mainly at RDE and LDT. Anyways, I’m done gabbing about it. I wanted him at 30, I caused many posters to pull their hair out because of my infatuation with him @NewEra @GunnerBill. I’m just tired of message board talk, I want the football season to start already.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, Victory Formation said:

I think Boogie will be an elite EDGE at the next level. I’m thinking that between him and Oliver this DL will set the tempo for the rest of this Bills defense this year. I think he will lineup mainly at RDE and LDT. Anyways, I’m done gabbing about it. I wanted him at 30, I caused many posters to pull their hair out because of my infatuation with him @NewEra @GunnerBill. I’m just tired of message board talk, I want the football season to start already.

 

I feel you on that last 

[Buffalo Junction]

3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Looks like he was rocking 15-30% of his snaps at either DT or ?LB(!!) 

 

Love someone who watches college ball to tell me what was up with that last --- How was he being used?

Watched a fair amount of WF the past few years….. Basham was used as a stand up edge rusher in certain packages, but he’d occasionally be used to blitz through the A gaps as well. Mostly DE and DT though. His motor may blow some people away, and he can get inside on slower guards and tackles and push them around with leverage and strength. If he really pans out it’ll likely be with a similar style to Cameron Jordan…. Good balance, motor, strength, and hand fighting. 

[TroutDog]

3 hours ago, Victory Formation said:

I want the football season to start already.

NEVER wish away a summer unless you live outside of WNY! 😃 

Honestly, I suspect Basham to do well more quickly… it I believe Rousseau will create the most havoc long term. Short window to look but the latter has solid roots, a strong head on his shoulders and appears to want greatness. 
 

The write-up about Boogie was as expected for me. 

[thenorthremembers]

Basham will be the reason they can keep one less 3 Tech.   His position flexibility gives you the option of keeping more defensive ends, which is a must if they truly believe Rosseau needs a red shirt type of year.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Junction said:

Watched a fair amount of WF the past few years….. Basham was used as a stand up edge rusher in certain packages, but he’d occasionally be used to blitz through the A gaps as well. Mostly DE and DT though. His motor may blow some people away, and he can get inside on slower guards and tackles and push them around with leverage and strength. If he really pans out it’ll likely be with a similar style to Cameron Jordan…. Good balance, motor, strength, and hand fighting. 

 

so if you scroll up and click on the cover1 chart I put up (clck to 'embiggen') - there were a handful of games where he was charted playing as many snaps at LB as at DT, and one where he played 23 snaps at LB per the charting.

 

What was going on there?

[Victory Formation]

1 hour ago, TroutDog said:

NEVER wish away a summer unless you live outside of WNY! 😃 

Honestly, I suspect Basham to do well more quickly… it I believe Rousseau will create the most havoc long term. Short window to look but the latter has solid roots, a strong head on his shoulders and appears to want greatness. 
 

The write-up about Boogie was as expected for me. 

I love the cold, I love winter. 😁

 

Anyways, I think Rousseau will be good, but I think Basham will be the better player both short term and long term. I’m glad the value worked out the way it did though. Boogie at 61 was a miracle. 

 

 

[NewEra]

5 hours ago, Victory Formation said:

I think Boogie will be an elite EDGE at the next level. I’m thinking that between him and Oliver this DL will set the tempo for the rest of this Bills defense this year. I think he will lineup mainly at RDE and LDT. Anyways, I’m done gabbing about it. I wanted him at 30, I caused many posters to pull their hair out because of my infatuation with him @NewEra @GunnerBill. I’m just tired of message board talk, I want the football season to start already.

Hahahaha…..you were the first person I thought of when I heard his named called.  I was happy to get him in rd 2.  Good value. Good dude.  Fits the McD DE size.  Good name.  I hope you’re right about him being an elite edge rusher.  I don’t think he has the makeup  of an elite DE personally, but I feel he’s going to make an impact 

[Putin]

5 hours ago, TailgateChef said:

The odds, combined with a solid scouting dept, suggest that one of them is going to be a star some day.  10-11 sacks a season by year 3 or 4.  One might ever become a superstar.

So one will be a star and one might become  be a superstar ? 
Amen to that !!!

[Nuncha]

The boog is the real deal.

[Buffalo Junction]

57 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

so if you scroll up and click on the cover1 chart I put up (clck to 'embiggen') - there were a handful of games where he was charted playing as many snaps at LB as at DT, and one where he played 23 snaps at LB per the charting.

 

What was going on there?

Playing from a two point stance in nickel and dime packages primarily. They’d also occasionally run a 4-3 under and line Basham up as the SLB on the LOS. Wake also rolled out an amoeba look rather frequently. In each case I can’t recall Basham dropping into coverage more than once or twice a game. He did destroy a few TEs at the LOS though. 

Edited June 24, 2021 by Buffalo Junction

[LeGOATski]

This guy's got the juice. I liked the draft pick immediately. I think a lot of people felt the same way.

[just1hugheser]

8 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Athletic article by Joe B:

https://theathletic.com/2651325/2021/06/22/boogie-basham-film-study-what-does-the-bills-second-round-pick-do-well-and-where-is-he-limited/

 

 

Strengths:

 

Joe points out a couple plays where he excelled as a 3TDT and speculates that may be his future in the NFL.  Says he also creates opportunities for teammates on stunts:

 

 

 

Joe B says his strength, balance and power also make him a strong factor in run D

 

Weaknesses:

 

 

Joe B thinks Basham has a stronger chance to become a Year 1 contributor than Rousseau because he is older with more experience, and Joe believes he can play either side at end as well as 3TDT or a hybrid role (what the Bills likely hoped Q would contribute)

 

 

 

 

Didnt get to read the article(just not paying lol) so thanks for sharing the excerpts, from those I like what was written but I thought we already knew most of this from watching him and college and seeing what his athletic strengths are at the combine?, but its always nice getting more info, so thanks again for posting def excited for Boogs and Rousseau to star in-"How Hughes and the Bills Defense Got Their Groove Back"(executive produced by angela bassett).

 

He is not athletically necessarily prototypically built like Rousseau but that is not to say he is not athletic, his combo of power and acceleration is excellent and with his build and size he has been coached right in making himself versatile playing DE and DT, he has the size and power to anchor the edge but not be a prototypical 'edge' rusher but he does have excellent pash rush skills from the inside and the work he puts into his technique there shows.  Because of his work ethic, skill, power, acceleration/burst, and versatility I was super happy with the pick, he can be a great player/piece within the right scheme and with the right players around him.  He's actually more polished from an overall technique standpoint than Rousseau right now, though they clearly have different roles/strengths.

Edited June 24, 2021 by just1hugheser

[just1hugheser]

player comps are like old school Phil Hansen or like a richard sherman, more modern cam jordan- guys who are more power guys but still explosive, not athletic bendy/speedy guys

Edited June 24, 2021 by just1hugheser

[GunnerBill]

I think Boogie is the type of big end who will have a real solid 8-10 year NFL career. He is going to be able to get on the field early, be really effective at the point of attack and defend the run well. I don't see a star pass rusher, just not sure he has a skillset there that translates. Bulldozing very average ACC offensive tackles with bull rush isn't necessarily a sign of pass rushing success at the next level. Kicked inside in pass rush packages I can see him having some joy as a rusher. Personally I think he went in the right sort of area of the draft. Anywhere from mid 2nd to early 3rd was the right window for his skillset in my view even if there were those (and the Bills seemingly were one) who thought he should go sooner. 

[Thurman#1]

 

4 hours ago, just1hugheser said:

 

 

Didnt get to read the article(just not paying lol) so thanks for sharing the excerpts, from those I like what was written but I thought we already knew most of this from watching him and college and seeing what his athletic strengths are at the combine?, but its always nice getting more info, so thanks again for posting def excited for Boogs and Rousseau to star in-"How Hughes and the Bills Defense Got Their Groove Back"(executive produced by angela bassett).

 

He is not athletically necessarily prototypically built like Rousseau but that is not to say he is not athletic, his combo of power and acceleration is excellent and with his build and size he has been coached right in making himself versatile playing DE and DT, he has the size and power to anchor the edge but not be a prototypical 'edge' rusher but he does have excellent pash rush skills from the inside and the work he puts into his technique there shows.  Because of his work ethic, skill, power, acceleration/burst, and versatility I was super happy with the pick, he can be a great player/piece within the right scheme and with the right players around him.  He's actually more polished from an overall technique standpoint than Rousseau right now, though they clearly have different roles/strengths.

 

 

 

Yeah, he's very unlike the Bills other DEs. He's been weighed between 275 and 285, and we don't have such big guys at DE. I believe Addison is presently our heaviest at 265. Epenesa was somewhat comparable when drafted, and then was immediately told to lose weight. Rousseau is taller and longer but weighs in at 266. Basham is a bit short-armed and very thick and strong.

 

Unless Basham is told to lose weight (which I doubt, personally) he's an outlier among our DEs.

 

Probably he's this year's Quinton Jefferson. Jefferson was supposed to be a hybrid DE / 3-tech, though the optout of Lotulelei scuppered that plan. That's Basham. Carlos does not look like our DEs. He's a tweener, really, which is what you expect when you bring in a guy to be a hybrid.

 

Someone up above said he thought Basham was going to be elite. From your mouth to God's ear, but that's very unlikely. Wouldn't be shocking to see him be quite good, though.

Edited June 24, 2021 by Thurman#1

[Beerball]

So, our coaching staff is gushing about the versatility of my man Boogie, a low second round pick.

 

What I'd like to know, what I've wanted to know since the day he was drafted, is why is the same not happening with Ed Oliver? I did not like the pick, but I brought myself into the fold by envisioning a big, not huge guy, a top 10 pick with speed and versatility moving all over the line creating mismatches.  Why hasn't this happened? What about Oliver has led the coaches to only give him snaps inside?  What is it about my man Boogie that gives coaches the cajones to move him around the line when they were afraid to do the same with Oliver?

[eball]

13 hours ago, Victory Formation said:

I think Boogie will be an elite EDGE at the next level. I’m thinking that between him and Oliver this DL will set the tempo for the rest of this Bills defense this year. I think he will lineup mainly at RDE and LDT. Anyways, I’m done gabbing about it. I wanted him at 30, I caused many posters to pull their hair out because of my infatuation with him @NewEra @GunnerBill. I’m just tired of message board talk, I want the football season to start already.

 

How the DL develops this season is the thing I am most intrigued and excited about.  Let’s face it, that was the Bills’ one true weakness last season.

[Apocalypse Nuts]

6 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

This guy's got the juice. I liked the draft pick immediately. I think a lot of people felt the same way.

 

As someone who does not have the patience (and probably intelligence) to keep track of all the prospects in the draft each year, I really like hearing this.  I knew who Rousseau was with his 18.5 sacks a year removed, but nothing about Boogie. 

 

I just watched the new Bills Embedded series last night (which appears to be the only episode unless I'm wrong), and it was all about the draft.  In depth on Rousseau of course, but very little on Basham and the rest.  What I liked seeing though was Joe Schoen talking with other teams on the phone about possible trades leading up to the Basham pick and telling them they would trade picks if their guy wasn't there anymore.  It was Boogie all the way and he fell to them.  They clearly did not expect to see him still on the board by that round 2 pick.  They didn't show Basham himself much but he was clearly overjoyed to be drafted so early.  Looked like he was super emotional when all the Bills brass were on the phone congratulating him.  He was barely holding it together and I really love seeing that passion.  That young man will appreciate his opportunity in the NFL.  There is no doubt about that.  And with the motor he has, gonna be a really nice combination on the field I think.

 

But let's all take the time to appreciate that nickname:  "Boogie Basham"   That has greatness written all over it!  I mean, if he's even decent in this league, a name like that will precede him to each new matchup.  And I'm gonna love screaming "YEAH BOOGIE BABY!!!!!!!!" when he makes a good play.  I just love that name!  Who wouldn't?

 

 

[CSBill]

Hindsight is always very good, but I do wonder if the Bills had certainty they would get Boogie B in the second round, if they would have passed on Rousseau and gone a different direction in round 1 ???? 🤷‍♂️

 

Water under the bridge, they have both now, here's hoping both become key pieces of a strong defense for many years ahead.

[Apocalypse Nuts]

On a side note, I really wonder what the young draft picks thought when they got picked by the Bills this year.  We all know Buffalo was football Siberia for the last almost 20 years.  But then we get this young gunslinger at QB, some real and competent coaching and team management, and actually start making the playoffs with regularity (that is so nice to type!) and then even make it to within one game of the Super Bowl.  I imagine that might have changed the way these draft prospects thought about the possibility of being drafted by B'lo. 

[machine gun kelly]

Thx Hap as this was interesting.  I called Polian on NFLR last night and he had some interesting points too many to share but as it pertains to Basham, he thought he wojld be a nice compliment to Oliver as he could see a way to get him in the rotation at DT more than DE.  He said a big if on Rousseau only in his gap playing, but he could see situations where if Rousseau progresses to exchange with Addison or even times where they play 5 up front with Rousseau as the 5th lineman.  He then went into how McD plays his defense etc.  it’s on demand in the last hour last night on late hits not for me, but his comments.

Edited June 24, 2021 by machine gun kelly

[JohnNord]

If Basham excels at 3TDT then the Bills are really going to have an interesting situation when Ed Oliver’s rookie deal is up.

[Rocket94]

9 hours ago, Victory Formation said:

I love the cold, I love winter. 😁

 

Anyways, I think Rousseau will be good, but I think Basham will be the better player both short term and long term. I’m glad the value worked out the way it did though. Boogie at 61 was a miracle. 

 

 

Whether he becomes elite or not, Basham seems to be a disruptive and havoc type player. He is going to do well.

[machine gun kelly]

13 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

If Basham excels at 3TDT then the Bills are really going to have an interesting situation when Ed Oliver’s rookie deal is up.

John, to put in context Polian was speaking more to Basham as a possible effective hybrid, so being moved inside and out.  He saw Rousseau more only in the outside, but needing more development.

 

He did make a big point bow under respected Milano’s impact on the entire team.  He pointed specifically the difference how the 20 defense looked with and without him.  Also, part of the impact of 18, and 19 too NFL defense in the Bills was the role Milano makes.  Not the only factor, but somewhat if the glue in the defense.  He indicated he wasn’t surprised at all at Milanos contract extension.

[DJB]

I'm expecting 34 sacks in his rookie year. 

[Kwai San]

12 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

so if you scroll up and click on the cover1 chart I put up (clck to 'embiggen') - there were a handful of games where he was charted playing as many snaps at LB as at DT, and one where he played 23 snaps at LB per the charting.

 

What was going on there?

 

When looking at that chart Hap it seem like he really was either DT or LB....game 5 he had 23 snaps as a LB!  More than likely without studying any tape it was situational based on what the O was throwing at them.  In 2020 there was an almost even split a few games for DT and LB.  Has to be a situational thing.  At least that is what those #'s say to me.  Thanks for that chart....really does break it down well.....

Edited June 24, 2021 by Kwai San

[2003Contenders]

3 hours ago, CSBill said:

Hindsight is always very good, but I do wonder if the Bills had certainty they would get Boogie B in the second round, if they would have passed on Rousseau and gone a different direction in round 1 ???? 🤷‍♂️

 

Water under the bridge, they have both now, here's hoping both become key pieces of a strong defense for many years ahead.

Actually, what I heard was that they never expected Rousseau to be there at 30 and that Boogie was actually their target in the first round. When both were still available at 30, they investigated some options to trade down a bit -- expecting that one of them would still be available early in the 2nd. That's why they took the full allotted time to make the pick. When no decent trade option materialized, they pulled the trigger on Rousseau -- and were dumb-founded that Boogie was still on the board late in the 2nd round. It sounds like Boogie was in their plans all along -- and they would try to do whatever they could to get him (even tried trading up in the 2nd). Rousseau was just icing on the cake. I know all of these team spin the whole "I can't believe he was still there..." thing. But in the Bills case, it sounds like that was true for both of their first two picks.

[jwhit34]

DL group on the 53:

 

Jerry Hughes

Mario Addison

Greg Rousseau

Carlos Basham

AJ Epenesa

Ed Oliver

Star

Harrison Phillips

Vernon Butler

 

The mix of proven performers in the twilight of their careers (Hughes, Addison) with the young up and comers (Epenesa, Rousseau, Basham, Oliver) is very interesting and could be one of the biggest areas of upside potential in 2021. 

 

If they keep 10 maybe Darryl Johnson. If not, he will land a spot in the league. Maybe Beane trades him for a 6th. 

[DaggersEOD]

I really like the direction the Bills are going on the DL. Last year it seemed like we relied too much of the refs calling the game fairly. 
 

Like how Jerry is literally held on every play. 
 

You can effect speed rushers with holds that aren’t called. Power rushers, not nearly as much.

 

So with these two additions, we may be able to more effectively push through uncalled holding penalties particularly during the playoffs when the refs “let them play”. 

[LABILLBACKER]

18 hours ago, Victory Formation said:

I think Boogie will be an elite EDGE at the next level. I’m thinking that between him and Oliver this DL will set the tempo for the rest of this Bills defense this year. I think he will lineup mainly at RDE and LDT. Anyways, I’m done gabbing about it. I wanted him at 30, I caused many posters to pull their hair out because of my infatuation with him @NewEra @GunnerBill. I’m just tired of message board talk, I want the football season to start already.

I too wanted Boogie. Just glad McB focused strong on DE's this draft. Jerry and Addison are not long for this team.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, jwhit34 said:

DL group on the 53:

 

Jerry Hughes

Mario Addison

Greg Rousseau

Carlos Basham

AJ Epenesa

Ed Oliver

Star

Harrison Phillips

Vernon Butler

 

The mix of proven performers in the twilight of their careers (Hughes, Addison) with the young up and comers (Epenesa, Rousseau, Basham, Oliver) is very interesting and could be one of the biggest areas of upside potential in 2021. 

 

If they keep 10 maybe Darryl Johnson. If not, he will land a spot in the league. Maybe Beane trades him for a 6th. 

 

This could be me having a soft-spot for the underdog, but it may be worth noting that Efe Obada had 5.5 sacks, 4 TFL, and 15 QB hits last season.

Now I wasn't watching Panthers games, so I can't comment on what else was going down to enable that -but it's a fact that would have led the Bills in sacks and QB hits and tied Jerry Hughes in TFL.

 

So I'm all Ent-like "don't be hasty" on getting out the scissors for Obada.

 

I think it's gonna be rough on McDermott and Beane. 

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, CSBill said:

Hindsight is always very good, but I do wonder if the Bills had certainty they would get Boogie B in the second round, if they would have passed on Rousseau and gone a different direction in round 1 ???? 🤷‍♂️

 

Water under the bridge, they have both now, here's hoping both become key pieces of a strong defense for many years ahead.

 

I have thought the same but not sure what other direction they'd have gone. The other guys that I thought might have been in play at #30 all came off the board in the few picks before them.

[RoyBatty is alive]

7 hours ago, eball said:

 

How the DL develops this season is the thing I am most intrigued and excited about.  Let’s face it, that was the Bills’ one true weakness last season.

True, that and our run game and interior line blocking on running plays

[Kwai San]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

This could be me having a soft-spot for the underdog, but it may be worth noting that Efe Obada had 5.5 sacks, 4 TFL, and 15 QB hits last season.

Now I wasn't watching Panthers games, so I can't comment on what else was going down to enable that -but it's a fact that would have led the Bills in sacks and QB hits and tied Jerry Hughes in TFL.

 

So I'm all Ent-like "don't be hasty" on getting out the scissors for Obada.

 

I think it's gonna be rough on McDermott and Beane. 

 

Agree 110% on that Frodo....