Broncos starting OT Ja’wuan James tears his Achilles

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Kwai San said:

 

So you are basically saying Star is going to be a no go? 

 

Has ANYONE heard ANYTHING about the condition Star is or is not in?  Basically the only one of consequence that held out last year, was arguably a missing piece that could or could not have affected the D last season depending on which high level meeting you were privy too 😈 and as far as I have not heard not one word as to if Chicken Wings and beer was his diet of choice or if he kept in shape and is in great condition.  Anyone?  Anyone at all??

 

 

 

Who is this House and what have you done with him?????

I’m predicting that sitting out a year will= a better chance of getting injured. 
 

I have no idea what will happen to star.  Gotta wait and see if he even plays 

[HOUSE]

13 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

One word: Tommy Doyle

 

Tommydoyle

 

[cba fan]

10 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

You are correct - I shd have reworded it as - The NFLPA will have strong incentives to fight it instead of "might have a case".

how does the NFLPA have a strong case to fight it?

 

NFLPA advised players not to report to off season workouts.

If anything, the players might have a case to sue NFLPA. Which is a weak case anyway if players agreed to NFLPA advice and players decided individually. Which means players took their own risk. Not sure under that scenario they can then sue the NFLPA.

 

NFLPA union failed players again. Should have negotiated with NFL to allow these workouts and contract covered or a least a % of the contracts. Or NFLPA should have taken out insurance to help players if this happened to them. Stupid leadership.

[BillsShredder83]

14 hours ago, Just Joshin' said:

He was injured working out away from the Broncos facilities.  I believe this means the Broncos don't have to pay him.  If so, players should practice where they are protected.

i think a pretty grimey move is coming her depending on circumstances. if he was playing bball, sure dont pay him, but if a guy is training in a logical manner, and you hammer him, its a dirty move.  sounds like an insurance company skipping a medical bill for something negligible.  discouraging your guys from staying in shape in the offseason at home is pretty stupid, and future FAs will be reminded of this by their agents. would they rather players show up 30lbs overweight and gassed half way through practice? weak

[LittleSammy]

14 hours ago, aceman_16 said:

I don't think Rodgers will approve that trade to an unhealthy O line. He can just threaten to retire and game over.

Not sure Rodgers will want to go the retirement route as it means he has to pay back almost $30M in prorated sign bonus/2021 bonus $$$. I'm sure the Jeopardy gig doesn't pay that kind of cash.

[YoloinOhio]

31 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I’m predicting that sitting out a year will= a better chance of getting injured. 
 

I have no idea what will happen to star.  Gotta wait and see if he even plays 

If that’s the case there are going to be a ton of teams affected more than the Bills 

[dje85]

14 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

One word: Tommy Doyle

Two new words instead.. Bobby Hart

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

 

We are clearly deep at OT. Dawkins, Williams, Brown, Doyle, Hart. Plus, Ford has played RT and I believe Bates has OT experience. 

 

Would love a player-for-player trade, but would not be surprised by something like Hart for a 6th or 7th. Heck, if Brown and Doyle come along real quick this summer and Brown shows he can man RT, I would not count out Williams for a 4th or 5th. 

😳 hell to the hell naw. trading our best OL to start a raw rookie (even with a good camp), for a 4th?  why mess with the chemistry or change whats working for an unknown, especially in our last year of cheap qb play.  windows going to be alot tighter next year imo

[TheFunPolice]

2 hours ago, Kwai San said:

 

So you are basically saying Star is going to be a no go? 

 

Has ANYONE heard ANYTHING about the condition Star is or is not in?  Basically the only one of consequence that held out last year, was arguably a missing piece that could or could not have affected the D last season depending on which high level meeting you were privy too 😈 and as far as I have not heard not one word as to if Chicken Wings and beer was his diet of choice or if he kept in shape and is in great condition.  Anyone?  Anyone at all??

 

 

 

 

 

For one, I hope his diet HAS been pizza, beer, and chicken wings. His job is to be a huge, immoveable object that frees up Oliver to roam. 

 

Star is insanely strong, so if he kept his weight up and made sure not to skip leg days we'll be fine!

 

 

[IgotBILLStopay]

1 hour ago, cba fan said:

how does the NFLPA have a strong case to fight it?

 

NFLPA advised players not to report to off season workouts.

If anything, the players might have a case to sue NFLPA. Which is a weak case anyway if players agreed to NFLPA advice and players decided individually. Which means players took their own risk. Not sure under that scenario they can then sue the NFLPA.

 

NFLPA union failed players again. Should have negotiated with NFL to allow these workouts and contract covered or a least a % of the contracts. Or NFLPA should have taken out insurance to help players if this happened to them. Stupid leadership.

I think you are actually agreeing with my rewording lol

[cba fan]

On 5/5/2021 at 9:46 AM, IgotBILLStopay said:

I think you are actually agreeing with my rewording lol

lol...i see what you are saying now.

 

NFLPA has strong case to fight players if any players try to sue NFLPA. Since players agreed.

Edited May 7, 2021 by cba fan

[TBBills]

16 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

If I were Elway I’d be getting back on the phone with Green Bay and give them whatever they want for Rogers

If I were Denver I would get rid of Elway for a real GM.

[maryland-bills-fan]

Bates, Ford or Hart might be in play here.  I could see a trade of any of them for a 4th round pick 2021

[BillsShredder83]

3 minutes ago, TBBills said:

If I were Denver I would get rid of Elway for a real GM.

they "did" although it seems like he still carries alot of weight in decisions

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

If that’s the case there are going to be a ton of teams affected more than the Bills 

Definitely.  
 

I didn’t think I was insinuating otherwise 

[TheFunPolice]

this sucks for the player, especially if the team voids his contract. 

 

Assuming the guy was working out to get ready for the season, you don't cut him off for getting hurt in what was probably a freak injury. Guys work out all the time at home or in local parks/tracks. It's part of being a professional athlete, isn't it? 

Man, if I was a team with cap space I would trade a 7th round pick to Denver for him, rather than them voiding his deal. 

[YoloinOhio]

25 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Definitely.  
 

I didn’t think I was insinuating otherwise 

It wasn’t ... but there seem to be a lot of people worrying about Star after a year off but not mentioning all of the other vets and rookies coming off of the same situation.  I’m not sure if he’s being intentionally singled out or if I missed something about him, in particular. 

[JohnBonhamRocks]

1 hour ago, BillsShredder83 said:

😳 hell to the hell naw. trading our best OL to start a raw rookie (even with a good camp), for a 4th?  why mess with the chemistry or change whats working for an unknown, especially in our last year of cheap qb play.  windows going to be alot tighter next year imo

 

I was not talking about a situation with "an unknown", but instead about a situation where Brown and Doyle come to camp/preseason and make Williams' contract expendable. 

 

Not saying that I want it to happen. I want as strong an offensive line as possible and value the trenches above everything but QB. 

 

Is Williams a steal at his price? I think so. However, I believe Beane's goal with Allen's looming contract is to get as many cheap contracts starting as possible.  

[TheFunPolice]

I'm in favor of the the Bills keeping all the OTs

 

Look at KC in the SB. You are going to have guys miss games, so you had better have quality depth. Now with 17 games, that's even more true.

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

It wasn’t ... but there seem to be a lot of people worrying about Star after a year off but not mentioning all of the other vets and rookies coming off of the same situation.  I’m not sure if he’s being intentionally singled out or if I missed something about him, in particular. 

Gotcha.  Can’t speak for them, but I feel that taking a year off as a 31 year old 310lb 1T is more complicated than other positions/ages.  I would see Eric wood every spring at my place of work for a good 7-8 years in a row.  He came in a few months after he had retired and looked like a complexly different person.  His body was completely different.  It’s not easy for these OL/DL guys to keep their weight up.  It’s a lot of work. 

[DrDawkinstein]

Yeah, I think this may end the player "boycott" of the offseason workouts.

 

 

They were already warned in a memo 2 weeks ago that this could happen.

 

 

 

Quinnen Williams had it figured out:

Edited May 5, 2021 by DrDawkinstein

[TheFunPolice]

sometimes you have the right to do something in a contract but it's better not to exercise it because the cost is more than the benefit

 

I would like to see a big deal made about this, everyone go nuts, then the team agree to pay him out of good will, but now everyone knows the deal. 

[Big Turk]

That's an expensive lesson he is going to learn. About 9.85 million dollars.

[Victory Formation]

This only makes the Bills approach to the draft look that much smarter. Four adequate, serviceable tackles. 

[HalftimeAdjustment]

8 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

I would like to see a big deal made about this, everyone go nuts, then the team agree to pay him out of good will, but now everyone knows the deal. 

 

That assumes there is $9.85M of good will. I don't think that is the case.

[BuffaloRebound]

Would you trade OT Spencer Brown for CB Michael Ojemedia? Both were 3rd round picks 1 year apart.  Ojemedia is a big corner that Bills supposedly liked last year.  Broncos obviously in need of an OT.  Could make some sense for both teams, but not sure when you’re allowed to trade a guy you just drafted.  

[TheFunPolice]

My POV is why rush to help out an AFC rival?

 

Keep our tackles and develop them. Cheap rookie contracts are what will be needed. 

[Rico]

14 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Would you trade OT Spencer Brown for CB Michael Ojemedia? Both were 3rd round picks 1 year apart.  Ojemedia is a big corner that Bills supposedly liked last year.  Broncos obviously in need of an OT.  Could make some sense for both teams, but not sure when you’re allowed to trade a guy you just drafted.  

Eli Gump and Philip Rivers got traded an hour after they were drafted.

[BuffaloRebound]

14 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

My POV is why rush to help out an AFC rival?

 

Keep our tackles and develop them. Cheap rookie contracts are what will be needed. 

If we got Ojemudia in return, we’d be helping each other out as well as providing both players with better path to playing time.  

[John from Riverside]

18 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Would you trade OT Spencer Brown for CB Michael Ojemedia? Both were 3rd round picks 1 year apart.  Ojemedia is a big corner that Bills supposedly liked last year.  Broncos obviously in need of an OT.  Could make some sense for both teams, but not sure when you’re allowed to trade a guy you just drafted.  

No

[syhuang]

Broncos released RT Ja'Wuan James and likely will not only void his $10 million salary but also recoup his signing bonus.

 

In the meantime, WR DaeSean Hamilton suffered a torn ACL training away from team facility less than 24 hours after being waived. He was more likely to be traded or claimed of waiver wire before the injury. Since the injury occurred off site, his salary is in jeopardy too.

 

 

[blacklabel]

That's a bummer. That's a tough injury to come back from especially for an OL who anchor and put a lot of stress on the feet and ankles. 

[Big Turk]

And now they had another player year his ACL training away from the facility...Broncos cap situation is getting a lot better by the day

[Ya Digg?]

I feel like the league and teams are setting themselves up for some big problems. So perhaps the players move to the city they play in full time so they can train (definitely not feasible though, especially for a city like Buffalo) or these guys are going to show up to camp out of shape 

[Doc]

30 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

I feel like the league and teams are setting themselves up for some big problems. So perhaps the players move to the city they play in full time so they can train (definitely not feasible though, especially for a city like Buffalo) or these guys are going to show up to camp out of shape 

 

The players know the rules.  Teams want them practicing at their facilities for a reason.

[Ya Digg?]

34 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The players know the rules.  Teams want them practicing at their facilities for a reason.

Oh I understand that, but most of not all of these players don’t live year round in the cities they play in. So you are now discouraging them from working out in the off-season. Just saying, they are on a very slippery slope with this

[GunnerBill]

7 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

Oh I understand that, but most of not all of these players don’t live year round in the cities they play in. So you are now discouraging them from working out in the off-season. Just saying, they are on a very slippery slope with this

 

You need to distinguish the offseason from phase 1. These Broncos injuries are phase 1 injuries which would normally take place in the facility and are only not doing because players chose to stay away for covid related reasons.

[Nelius]

Donkeys really getting sprayed with bad luck AFC karma lately. Mess of a team. They may be drafting first next year, seriously. They are going to be awful.

 

A humbled Von Miller might love some quiet WNY surroundings at this point in his game, just saying.

Edited May 15, 2021 by Nelius

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Nelius said:

Donkeys really getting sprayed with bad luck AFC karma lately. Mess of a team. They may be drafting first next year, seriously. They are going to be awful.

 

A humbled Von Miller might love some quiet WNY surroundings at this point in his game, just saying. Escape to Toronto or Montreal for some debauchery, big Von. We love you, Von. Come to Buffalo, Von. You are still that dude, now come win a ring, Von.

 

They are not gonna be awful. Too much talent to be awful. They are like the Bills with Tyrod. Too much talent to suck but without the quarterback to be good. 

 

A team with Von Miller, Bradley Chubb, Patrick Surtain and Justin Simmons on defense and Noah Fant, Jerry Jeudy and Courtland Sutton on offense are going to be too good to be in contention for the #1 pick. Even playing in a very tough division. 

 

My top two teams for the #1 pick race are Houston and Philly.

[maryland-bills-fan]

13 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

Oh I understand that, but most of not all of these players don’t live year round in the cities they play in. So you are now discouraging them from working out in the off-season. Just saying, they are on a very slippery slope with this

Gee,  when I was working, I lived in the city where I was working.