ChronicAndKnuckles Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) Jones was one of my under-the-radar QB prospects this year. With the Saban-Bellichick connection, I'm sure he has the full scoop of what he can do. Jones is prototypical size and can make every throw, therefore he will be able to open up the Patriots offense. Edited April 30, 2021 by ChronicAndKnuckles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 If Bill Belichick has proven anything, it's that he's a phenomenal talent evaluator and drafter. Mac Jones is going to be a superstar. 2 28 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I'd be more worried about Zach Wilson in a few years after he hits puberty. 1 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I think Wilson is better but I'm not super worried about either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I’m not worried about either. Wilson is playing for the Jets, therefore, unlikely to succeed at a high level. Jones may be fine, but there’s nothing about him that strikes fear into anyone. Wilson has pretty elite arm, but hasn’t faced real competition and is going to, let’s say it again, the Jets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udubalum07 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I went with Jones. As much as I hate the pats, I know BB is a heck of a coach. We don't know anything about how good the jets will be. They could whiff on the majority of their picks, and everything they accumulated would be pointless. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) I don't like Jones or Wilson. I am a Fields/Lance guy. I would have been very upset if the Pats wound up with Fields. I think Jones will probably have the better career when compared to Wilson, but he's going to have to be surrounded by a ton of talent to succeed. IMO he isn't better than Cam, and he likely never will be. To me, Jones is Matt Cassell/Andy Dalton level starter. I think he can definitely be successful, but he doesn't scare me. Maybe a Sam Bradford type ceiling. Wilson is not better than Darnold. I think he will get crushed and overwhelmed early in New York. I think it is a bad spot for that kid. Again, he doesn't scare me, but he could also wind up being a dynamic game breaking player. If they throw him in there right away, I think he gets ruined, quick. Edited April 30, 2021 by MrEpsYtown 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Can’t wait to see Wilson’s cockiness/gun slinger personality and how that works out for him trying to squeeze the ball in against NFL CBs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I'm never going to evaluate QB's again. Lol. I have no clue. I'de love GM's to admit that. Just draft one and build around him. I think the Jets are actually in a good position right now. WR's and a built up OL. I like what they're doing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I think Wilson has good but not great upside. Mac to be doesn't have good upside so I'm more worried about Wilson personally. Mac seems destined to put New England in QB purgatory to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I'm more worried about Jaylen Waddle and Jaelan Phillips being in the division than Wilson or Jones. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, gobills404 said: I'm more worried about Jaylen Waddle and Jaelan Phillips being in the division than Wilson or Jones. Tua has to learn to throw more than 5 yard out routes first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I think Mac Jones is going to have a rude awakening playing in the NFL. This isn’t the cupcake schedule Bama plays every year and then waltzes into the CFP and to the final. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Just now, BillsEnthusiast said: Tua has to learn to throw more than 5 yard out routes first. Any 5 yard throw to waddle always has the chance to be a house call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Zach Wilson Mac Jones Tua lol Not worried about any of them. Actually pretty thrilled that there are possibly TWO Bama QBs starting in our division. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Jones is good in college, but he’ll be hunted down in the NFL. I see game manager when I look at him. Wilson is more physically gifted, but something about his energy is strange to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I will say you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take and each team took a shot. I think Jones has the least shot to bust, but also the least upside of the 2. I think he reads and anticipates well, but he also was on basically an All Star team and he is going to a mediocre team especially in terms of offensive talent. Wilson has more upside, but higher bust potential. I think Kiper was 100% correct with Wilson coming out was not even as good as Darnold coming out and the Jets should of stayed with Darnold. I think the transition to NYC will be interesting of a Mormon Boy from Utah. He will not be the party guy, but I am not sure he will “fit in” with the rest of the teammates like he did at BYU. In the end - I picked both “bust” although more accurately - I think both play, but neither excels and neither becomes a star. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I'd be more worried about Zach Wilson in a few years after he hits puberty. I'll sure miss that cute, high pitched laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RobbRiddick Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Wilson creeps me out, he's like something from a teen Disney romcom and I'd bet my bank account he waxes his legs and bikini line. Saying that, he's gifted and though I'd like to laugh at the Jets, they were doing the same thing when we drafted Allen. With the right coaching and the right environment you never know what might happen. Of course it would be hilarious to see him fail so I can see the crying on gang green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Mac Jones was the one guy i didnt want going to the Patriots. Time will tell I guess but whatever he's lacking in athleticism he makes up for in accuracy and good decision making. Sound like anyone we know? He has some big shoes to fill but my hot take is that he'll probably be considered the #2 QB from this draft in 5 years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, uninja said: I think Mac Jones is going to have a rude awakening playing in the NFL. This isn’t the cupcake schedule Bama plays every year and then waltzes into the CFP and to the final. Alabama doesn't actually play a cupcake schedule. I expect Jones will be good. Just now, dorquemada said: Mac Jones was the one guy i didnt want going to the Patriots. Time will tell I guess but whatever he's lacking in athleticism he makes up for in accuracy and good decision making. Sound like anyone we know? He has some big shoes to fill but my hot take is that he'll probably be considered the #2 QB from this draft in 5 years I fully agree. Athleticism is nice, but it's not as if has a bad arm. It's certainly good enough, and he can make all the throws. This isn't Christian Ponder we're talking about. I feel like that's the unstated comp here and it's just wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Just now, dorquemada said: Mac Jones was the one guy i didnt want going to the Patriots. Time will tell I guess but whatever he's lacking in athleticism he makes up for in accuracy and good decision making. Sound like anyone we know? He has some big shoes to fill but my hot take is that he'll probably be considered the #2 QB from this draft in 5 years Yeah the same thought did come to me but then I was thinking how many duds they've drafted through their glory years, plus even though they like to act like geniuses for drafting Tom, even Bill passed on him five times. It was a total shot in the dark that happened to win them the lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 34 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Zach Wilson Mac Jones Tua lol Not worried about any of them. Actually pretty thrilled that there are possibly TWO Bama QBs starting in our division. Agreed Dr Dawk. Jones gets any pressure he is done. If Jarrett Stidham had the receivers at Auburn that Mac Jones had at Alabama he would have put up just as good of numbers. And Stidham can actually scramble some. Jones is in for a rude awakening. That was an arrogant pick by Belichik. The Belichik legend is Tom Brady.... That's quite a QB room that they have now w Jones Stidham and Cam. War Eagle v Roll Tide in New England. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 23 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I fully agree. Athleticism is nice, but it's not as if has a bad arm. It's certainly good enough, and he can make all the throws. This isn't Christian Ponder we're talking about. I feel like that's the unstated comp here and it's just wrong. Lazy hot takes by the TV clownshow seem to amount to...mac jones cant be good because he played on a good team. Now I have this crazy idea, maybe Mac Jones made Devonta & Jaylen better, as much as the other way around. The Clowns couldn't fall over themselves fast enough to declare Tua Tagoviola the next coming, and Mac Jones wrecked all of Tua's single season records with much the same team. One might argue that Tua had better surrounding talent at Alabama. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 The 2nd best QB in the AFC East is Mitch Trubisky 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Yea something tells me no matter who the Pats drafted plenty of Blils fans will down play it. Even if it was Jesus himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Ghost_002! said: Yea something tells me no matter who the Pats drafted plenty of Blils fans will down play it. Even if it was Jesus himself. "Well, Jesus Christ may be the Son of God and so on but what's his 40 time? Maybe it was the Apostles that did all the work. This isn't the NFL from 30 AD. BUST" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Personally I think Wilson is the more exciting prospect, but he’s on the Jets who give me little confidence in his development. Although they at least did the same thing I did when I had Jets in the TSW Mock and draft what I think is a stud prospect with future prop bowl written all over him in AVT to finally give their young QB some protection. They seem to have learned their lesson in how they botched Darnolds development. Mac Jones has gone to a superior organization though and honestly is a great system for his best traits. So I would say I think Mac Jones landed in the ideal spot and has the most potential to reach his ceiling than anyone on the Jets, even though I think Wilson as an individual is the more exciting prospect. But: Overall, I have a feeling when we look back at this draft class in 5 years, Trey Lance is going to emerge as the best QB from this class, even better than Trevor. He reminds me so much of Josh Allen in terms of physical gifts, but also intelligence, work ethic, and how much he can be coached up. There are traits you can’t teach, things people like Mahomes and Allen have that are just what separate them from the pack. And I feel like Lance has those things and he’s going to a great place too where he will get great coaching and chance to develop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I think we saw the same thing this draft that we always do - 1 great "sure thing" QB, and 3-4 others who got hyped into higher draft positions but who all have big flaws. Maybe 1-2 more pan out, but I don't think Jones is among them. A truly impossible prospect to gauge - incredibly well protected, and with the best receivers in college football to throw to. He has faced no real pressure, and zero adversity. Not worried about him at all. Probably more worried about Wilson, but the Jets have so much more work to do elsewhere to be a legit contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, dorquemada said: "Well, Jesus Christ may be the Son of God and so on but what's his 40 time? Maybe it was the Apostles that did all the work. This isn't the NFL from 30 AD. BUST" Don't need a 40 time when you can walk on water. 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: Yea something tells me no matter who the Pats drafted plenty of Blils fans will down play it. Even if it was Jesus himself. Conversely, as someone who peruses Patriots boards from time to time, I saw a complete about-face from Pats fans on Jones. Most Pats fans wanted Fields. As soon as Jones was picked, the narrative became "we got the guy who was supposed to go #3 at #15!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, uninja said: I think Mac Jones is going to have a rude awakening playing in the NFL. This isn’t the cupcake schedule Bama plays every year and then waltzes into the CFP and to the final. They played and defeated Auburn, LSU, Texas A&M, Florida, Notre Dame and Ohio State. Did LSD make a comeback? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Riv Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) I'm not sure who to be more worried about in terms of personal welfare. Wilson is in the media center of the globe under a microscope and Jones is going to enter a QB room with a true diva in a Marvel comics superhero body with huge personality to match. Newton may not be able to throw any more, but he's still a former NFL MVP, led his team to the SB, looks like a Greek god, etc. Look at Jones without a shirt on and then Cam.... lol The most effective QB on their team might turn out to be Stidham, who will be traded at some point. Edited April 30, 2021 by P Riv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Success said: Conversely, as someone who peruses Patriots boards from time to time, I saw a complete about-face from Pats fans on Jones. Most Pats fans wanted Fields. As soon as Jones was picked, the narrative became "we got the guy who was supposed to go #3 at #15!" I wanted Fields as well but the Pats like all the things Jones is capable of (accurate and intelligent) those aren't bad attributes., so we will see. Edited April 30, 2021 by Ghost_002! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Bill from NYC said: They played and defeated Auburn, LSU, Texas A&M, Florida, Notre Dame and Ohio State. Did LSD make a comeback? Right, the SEC, home of the famous cupcake schedule. By that metric i am curious what would be a difficult schedule in the original poster's opinion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 worry. not healthy to worry. I am looking forward to seeing how those two pan out all the while feeling quite confident JA will be the top QB in the afce for some time to come. worry? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, uninja said: I think Mac Jones is going to have a rude awakening playing in the NFL. This isn’t the cupcake schedule Bama plays every year and then waltzes into the CFP and to the final. Yeah, that SEC is cupcake-central...great point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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