YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Just now, djp14150 said: In early drafts after last years had him in the top 10. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2888826-2021-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-way-too-early-predictions https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/04/27/way-too-early-nfl-2021-mock-draft Most analysts have said that with the opt out players, they had no choice but to “leave them where they found them” when they last played. So the only additional info on him is that he opted out and then didn’t test great. I guess at 30 he’s worth the swing based on his film, production and upside. I like that he did a lot of his damage from the inside. We could use the versatility. They seem to like that type (ie Obada) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: ESPN wasn't impressed by the pick at all NFL Network guys loved it, and I'd trust them over the clowns at ESPN. 9 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, GreggTX said: At 266, he'll clearly play DE, but what to do at DE now? Hughes is clearly the best DE on the roster and Edge guys often play effectively well into their 30's. Epenesa might turn out OK, but hasn't played well so far. Rousseau could be a project with his limited experience. I very seriously doubt they'll move him inside. Love his ceiling too. He had something like 19.5 TFL and 15.5 sacks in his last full season. That's an insane 35 tackles behind the LOS! He's also played WR and S which tells me he has a good skill set. This also addresses our biggest need. So far, so good. I haven’t been super impressed with Epenesa as a whole. I’ve questioned him in this thread. It feels like he projects out to Chris Kelsey. Better than serviceable. I will say I thought AJ was able to be pretty disruptive at time’s at the very backend of the season. It seems like he started to make the most of his limited snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mango said: Hughes has had a highly productive career in Buffalo. He may be on the downside now, but even that downside is still the best on the roster at the moment. I’m not looking to replace 2020 JH. We need somebody as disruptive as his 2014-2018 stretch. I mean I like Jerry Hughes and all but highly productive? Those 2 10 sack seasons were awesome but since then I would agree to disagree but that's just my opinion. He's been our best pass rusher not named Mario Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Success said: Okay, someone just compared him to a young JPP. That's the one I'm going to focus on. Exactly. Very similar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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4merper4mer Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Success said: Okay, someone just compared him to a young JPP. That's the one I'm going to focus on. Keep an eye on this kid on Independence Day. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Success said: Okay, someone just compared him to a young JPP. That's the one I'm going to focus on. I see that. Think JPP probably had a slightly better first step but I see what they are thinking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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5ths the charm Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: Alright that's fair but calling him a bust because you don't like the guy doesn't seem mindless? Just asking. Again, my opinion, there were Three or four better options. He was a reach as a developmental player in first round playing on a millions of dollars contract. On one year of production...like Aaron May in, except he sucked at his pro day. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Well no. Kearse was an all-time athletic freak. Like Rousseau a LOT but he’s not Kearse. I thought so when I originally saw those comps a few weeks ago.. But Kearse's track #'s wouldn't seem as freakish today. He ran a 4.58. Couple inches shorter than Rousseau. The freaky thing about Kearse were the 11.5" hands.......which is, of course, the freakish thing about Rousseau as well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 McBeane seems to have a type. Tall, long, productive ends that fall down boards when they disappoint during athletic testing. It’s still very early on both, I guess we will see what happens in a few years. Still have 6 picks to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 The red flag for me was watching that 15 sack season playing at 245, not a weight that's likely to cut it in the NFL. When he took a year off and put on 20-25 lbs, he had a disastrous Pro Day (which I know, isn't an actual game). I hope he can play at this weight, it is a legitimate concern. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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5ths the charm Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: We will see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy81 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) People gonna complain no matter who they drafted. Kids a beast and would have gone much higher if he did play last year. Good luck on 3rd and long when he lines up inside. Go Bills Edited April 30, 2021 by goldenboy81 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Beyond excited. There is no way he falls to where he is if he played this year. Today has been a great day. If he had put up double digit sacks again (and Phillips did basically coming in and playing his spot) he would have gone top 10/12 for sure. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Exactly. Very similar. Except he has 10 fingers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 So long as he isn't being advised by LaVar Arrington we might be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Got to like that work ethic and intelligence, could be great with our coaching. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Could have traded down and still selected him... Beane's weakness seems to be selecting D-Linemen. You can’t know that. The teams after us went pass rushers too. If he is the one you like the best, take him. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, 5ths the charm said: there were Three or four better options. You have no way of knowing this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JimmyNoodles Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 It’s a reach IMO but obviously hoping for the best. Was relieved we did not take JOK who did not go in the 1st as predicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, Mango said: I’ll refer to the draft gurus here. He was a guy in my peripheral so I don’t know a ton. Given the fact we’ve spent our first pick 3 years in a row on Oliver, Epeneza, and Rousseau, I’m not totally sure that’s a dominant line when you factor in the cost. Everybody is young and it’s still very wait and see. I have faith Oliver can be a player so we will see. Tbf Epenesa was a 2nd round pick - but yes our first actual pick in the draft. Either way this is where I’m at as well, if not slightly more optimistic. I think we messed with too much in having AJ drop as much weight as he did. I’m curious to see whether they keep him at that weight and work more on the speed game this year, or let him put some weight back on to get back to his power roots. Either way I have more optimism about him and Oliver continuing to make strides. Hell, if we’re lucky enough that all three develop to expectation that’s an outstanding DL core group of similar age to anchor a defense on for years. All remains to be seen but can’t say I’m not excited. If we didn’t go DB here I was hoping it’d be DL/Pass Rusher. I wouldn’t have minded ASJ or Ojulari even, but glad to see us go after an incredible upside gamble with number 30. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I just still don't understand why we not get Samuel or JOK. I am going to be sick about this choice till draft is over then I will get behind it and move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheBeaneBandit Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, QCity said: The red flag for me was watching that 15 sack season playing at 245, not a weight that's likely to cut it in the NFL. When he took a year off and put on 20-25 lbs, he had a disastrous Pro Day (which I know, isn't an actual game). I hope he can play at this weight, it is a legitimate concern. He will grow into it. I feel very confident in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Boxcar Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mango said: I haven’t been super impressed with Epenesa as a whole. I’ve questioned him in this thread. It feels like he projects out to Chris Kelsey. Better than serviceable. I will say I thought AJ was able to be pretty disruptive at time’s at the very backend of the season. It seems like he started to make the most of his limited snaps. No preseason, had to change his style of play and body type. That stuff takes awhile, and he was looking pretty promising by the end of the year. It boggles my mind that some people are already labeling him a bust. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: good luck throwing over him Mac! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Process said: Beane just said in an interview they could have traded back. Two teams were really interested. Ugh. Should have pulled the trigger. Beane comes from that Gettleman tree of being reluctant to trade down especially since they really like Rousseau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 For everyone saying “i wish they would’ve traded back”…for what? I would hope you’d mean picks in next year’s draft, because if you wanted them to trade back for more picks in the mid rounds in this year’s draft, which is the thinnest EVER, then you should take up soccer or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Don’t like the pick. Did not want to invest in an opt-out. I hope I’m wrong but our 1st picks on D have been meh. Could have had DK. Could have had Dobbins. Will be wishing we had Moore. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, CNY315 said: You have no way of knowing this I mean this is a message board about the NFL draft. You could post “you have know way of knowing this” after all 32 draft picks today and 98% of all the posts on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I’m sensing a trend with our 1st rounders: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2020/04/27/way-too-early-nfl-2021-mock-draft Allen, Oliver also mocked very high a year out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Hate or love the pick, you have to admire how leak-proof our front office is. Hadn't seen anything connecting us to Rousseau pre-draft. Had my eye on JOK, Teven Jenkins, and Elijah Moore, but I can get onboard with Rousseau. I like his length and I trust this coaching staff to develop him. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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