RD 1, Pick 30: Greg Rousseau, Edge (Miami) Public Poll Added

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, djp14150 said:

In early drafts after last years had him in the top 10. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2888826-2021-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-way-too-early-predictions

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/04/27/way-too-early-nfl-2021-mock-draft

 

 

 

 

 

Most analysts have said that with the opt out players, they had no choice but to “leave them where they found them” when they last played. So the only additional info on him is that he opted out and then didn’t test great. I guess at 30 he’s worth the swing based on his film, production and upside. I like that he did a lot  of his damage from the inside. We could use the versatility. They seem to like that type (ie Obada)

[Bubba Gump]

14 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

ESPN wasn't impressed by the pick at all

 

 

NFL Network guys loved it, and I'd trust them over the clowns at ESPN.

[Mango]

1 minute ago, GreggTX said:

At 266, he'll clearly play DE, but what to do at DE now? Hughes is clearly the best DE on the roster and Edge guys often play effectively well into their 30's. Epenesa might turn out OK, but hasn't played well so far. Rousseau could be a project with his limited experience. I very seriously doubt they'll move him inside. Love his ceiling too. He had something like 19.5 TFL and 15.5 sacks in his last full season. That's an insane 35 tackles behind the LOS! He's also played WR and S which tells me he has a good skill set. This also addresses our biggest need. So far, so good.

I haven’t been super impressed with Epenesa as a whole. I’ve questioned him in this thread.  It feels like he projects out to Chris Kelsey. Better than serviceable. I will say I thought AJ was able to be pretty disruptive at time’s at the very backend of the season. It seems like he started to make the most of his limited snaps. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

3 minutes ago, Mango said:

Hughes has had a highly productive career in Buffalo. He may be on the downside now, but even that downside is still the best on the roster at the moment. I’m not looking to replace 2020 JH. We need somebody as disruptive as his 2014-2018 stretch. 

 

I mean I like Jerry Hughes and all but highly productive? Those 2 10 sack seasons were awesome but since then I would agree to disagree but that's just my opinion. He's been our best pass rusher not named Mario Williams. 

[Motorin']

1 minute ago, Success said:

Okay, someone just compared him to a young JPP.

 

That's the one I'm going to focus on.

 

 

Exactly. Very similar. 

[junior]

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[4merper4mer]

2 minutes ago, Success said:

Okay, someone just compared him to a young JPP.

 

That's the one I'm going to focus on.

 

Keep an eye on this kid on Independence Day.

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, Success said:

Okay, someone just compared him to a young JPP.

 

That's the one I'm going to focus on.

 

 

I see that. Think JPP probably had a slightly better first step but I see what they are thinking.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[5ths the charm]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said:

 

Alright that's fair but calling him a bust because you don't like the guy doesn't seem mindless? Just asking.

Again, my opinion, there were Three or four better options. He was a reach as a developmental player in first round playing on a millions of dollars contract. On one year of production...like Aaron May in, except he sucked at his pro day.

[BADOLBILZ]

13 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Well no.  Kearse was an all-time athletic freak.  Like Rousseau a LOT but he’s not Kearse.

 

I thought so when I originally saw those comps a few weeks ago..  But Kearse's track #'s wouldn't seem as freakish today.    He ran a 4.58.    Couple inches shorter than Rousseau.   The freaky thing about Kearse were the 11.5" hands.......which is, of course, the freakish thing about Rousseau as well.   

[LEBills]

McBeane seems to have a type. Tall, long, productive ends that fall down boards when they disappoint during athletic testing. 

 

It’s still very early on both, I guess we will see what happens in a few years. Still have 6 picks to go...

[QCity]

The red flag for me was watching that 15 sack season playing at 245, not a weight that's likely to cut it in the NFL. When he took a year off and put on 20-25 lbs, he had a disastrous Pro Day (which I know, isn't an actual game). I hope he can play at this weight, it is a legitimate concern. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[5ths the charm]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

We will see

[goldenboy81]

People gonna complain no matter who they drafted. Kids a beast and would have gone much higher if he did play last year.

Good luck on 3rd and long when he lines up inside. Go Bills 

Edited April 30, 2021 by goldenboy81

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Beyond excited. There is no way he falls to where he is if he played this year. Today has been a great day. 

 

If he had put up double digit sacks again (and Phillips did basically coming in and playing his spot) he would have gone top 10/12 for sure.

[Bubba Gump]

2 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

Exactly. Very similar. 

 

Except he has 10 fingers

[billsintaiwan]

So long as he isn't being advised by LaVar Arrington we might be good

[Buffalo Barbarian]

20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

Got to like that work ethic and intelligence, could be great with our coaching.

 

 

[buffaloboyinATL]

15 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

Could have traded down and still selected him... Beane's weakness seems to be selecting D-Linemen.

You can’t know that. The teams after us went pass rushers too.  If he is the one you like the best, take him. 

[CNY315]

2 minutes ago, 5ths the charm said:

there were Three or four better options.

You have no way of knowing this

[YoloinOhio]

 

[JimmyNoodles]

It’s a reach IMO but obviously hoping for the best. Was relieved we did not take JOK who did not go in the 1st as predicted. 

[ctk232]

16 minutes ago, Mango said:

I’ll refer to the draft gurus here. He was a guy in my peripheral so I don’t know a ton. 
 

Given the fact we’ve spent our first pick 3 years in a row on Oliver, Epeneza, and Rousseau, I’m not totally sure that’s a dominant line when you factor in the cost. 
 

Everybody is young and it’s still very wait and see. I have faith Oliver can be a player so we will see. 

Tbf Epenesa was a 2nd round pick - but yes our first actual pick in the draft. Either way this is where I’m at as well, if not slightly more optimistic. I think we messed with too much in having AJ drop as much weight as he did. I’m curious to see whether they keep him at that weight and work more on the speed game this year, or let him put some weight back on to get back to his power roots. Either way I have more optimism about him and Oliver continuing to make strides.

 

Hell, if we’re lucky enough that all three develop to expectation that’s an outstanding DL core group of similar age to anchor a defense on for years. All remains to be seen but can’t say I’m not excited.
 

If we didn’t go DB here I was hoping it’d be DL/Pass Rusher. I wouldn’t have minded ASJ or Ojulari even, but glad to see us go after an incredible upside gamble with number 30. 

[PrimeTime101]

I just still don't understand why we not get Samuel or JOK.  I am going to be sick about this choice till draft is over then I will get behind it and move on

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

 

 

[TheBeaneBandit]

2 minutes ago, QCity said:

The red flag for me was watching that 15 sack season playing at 245, not a weight that's likely to cut it in the NFL. When he took a year off and put on 20-25 lbs, he had a disastrous Pro Day (which I know, isn't an actual game). I hope he can play at this weight, it is a legitimate concern. 

He will grow into it. I feel very confident in that.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Boxcar]

3 minutes ago, Mango said:

I haven’t been super impressed with Epenesa as a whole. I’ve questioned him in this thread.  It feels like he projects out to Chris Kelsey. Better than serviceable. I will say I thought AJ was able to be pretty disruptive at time’s at the very backend of the season. It seems like he started to make the most of his limited snaps. 

No preseason, had to change his style of play and body type. That stuff takes awhile, and he was looking pretty promising by the end of the year. It boggles my mind that some people are already labeling him a bust.

[CircleTheWagons99]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

good luck throwing over him Mac!

 

[LEBills]

5 minutes ago, Process said:

Beane just said in an interview they could have traded back. Two teams were really interested. 

 

Ugh. Should have pulled the trigger. 

Beane comes from that Gettleman tree of being reluctant to trade down especially since they really like Rousseau

[JoPoy88]

For everyone saying “i wish they would’ve traded back”…for what? I would hope you’d mean picks in next year’s draft, because if you wanted them to trade back for more picks in the mid rounds in this year’s draft, which is the thinnest EVER, then you should take up soccer or something.

[BillsfaninSB]

Don’t like the pick.  Did not want to invest in an opt-out.

 

I hope I’m wrong but our 1st picks on D have been meh.   Could have had DK.  Could have had Dobbins.  Will be wishing we had Moore. 

[Mango]

1 minute ago, CNY315 said:

You have no way of knowing this

I mean this is a message board about the NFL draft. You could post “you have know way of knowing this” after all 32 draft picks today and 98% of all the posts on the internet.  

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

I’m sensing a trend with our 1st rounders:

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2020/04/27/way-too-early-nfl-2021-mock-draft

 

Allen, Oliver also mocked very high a year out 

[Dont Stop Billeiving]

Hate or love the pick, you have to admire how leak-proof our front office is. Hadn't seen anything connecting us to Rousseau pre-draft. 

 

Had my eye on JOK, Teven Jenkins, and Elijah Moore, but I can get onboard with Rousseau. I like his length and I trust this coaching staff to develop him. 

[YoloinOhio]