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Just chiming in here.  I know there has been some debate in NFL circles about Tebow getting a shot before Kapernick.  I am not here to stoke that fire.  Just putting in some thoughts.  I recall hearing Kapernick having a demanding price to play.  Which probably means he feels he is worth more than a team was offering him.  Maybe that part isn't true.  I am not sure.  

 

Tebow signed for minimum.  Which means he is trying out and no guarantee to make the team.   https://www.nfl.com/news/jaguars-signed-te-tim-tebow-for-one-year-minimum-920k-deal

 

I can honestly see Tebow running down the filed to cover kicks.  Maybe he lucks out and gets some Taysom Hill type reps.  But it looks like it is a genuine try to make the team as a TE.  Will be interesting.  He is an athlete and I could see him pulling it off at a 3rd TE/practice squad player.  

 

I can't envision Kapernick being willing to play a different position.  Maybe next season he tries that route? IDK.  But I think that is the epitome of what the difference is between the two situations.

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On 5/20/2021 at 11:51 AM, YoloinOhio said:

Normal for a bottom of the roster guy who probably won’t make the team, right?

Yeah.  He's making the team meaning a more deserving player won't get a spot.  I get it though from a financial perspective especially in a market like Jacksonville.  It's a risk when your backup TE/FB/QB(whatever he'll be) will get more media attention than your star players in the locker room.

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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

Yeah.  He's making the team meaning a more deserving player won't get a spot.  I get it though from a financial perspective especially in a market like Jacksonville.  It's a risk when your backup TE/FB/QB(whatever he'll be) will get more media attention than your star players in the locker room.


You have to know your locker room, and aside from Jax not really having any pre-draft stars, I highly doubt Trevor Lawrence or Travis Etienne care if people obsess over Tebow.  

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2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Yeah.  He's making the team meaning a more deserving player won't get a spot.  I get it though from a financial perspective especially in a market like Jacksonville.  It's a risk when your backup TE/FB/QB(whatever he'll be) will get more media attention than your star players in the locker room.

Agree. Tebow is almost as big as God in North Florida. The Jags have already won from a marketing prospective for sure. That’s why I’ve said time and time again on this topic, I’ve got nothing against Tebow, but there are plenty of non football reasons the Jags have Tebow on the roster. The jersey sales prove that. 

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6 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Not sure why they’d ever put in Tebow over Lawrence.  Lawrence is more than capable of running RPO’s.  Jags might as well invite Kaepernick to training camp too.  Apparently Meyer enjoys the circus.  

Capable? yeah for sure. 
But Tebow is an all-time great at doing that , and you wouldn’t have to hold your breath like we do whenever Josh tries to jam it in from the 2 yd line. 

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3 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

Agree. Tebow is almost as big as God in North Florida. The Jags have already won from a marketing prospective for sure. That’s why I’ve said time and time again on this topic, I’ve got nothing against Tebow, but there are plenty of non football reasons the Jags have Tebow on the roster. The jersey sales prove that. 

Well, a lot of players have changed their venue... Michael Jordan's jersey with the Wizards must be a real collectors item nowadays. Only difference is that Jordan was a superstar, Timmy not so much. 

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Love it! Great signing for Jacksonville. They get a Super High Character person that could bring a lot to the locker room. No one can deny Teebow is a class act off the filed, if he can prove it on the field this is a home run for Jacksonville. Let’s see if he makes the team, I suspect he does and contributes on the field and definitely off the field. I’ll be watching Jacksonville this year for sure with Lawrence and Teebow. Should be entertaining….. The fact that his jersey became the #1 item in NFL Shop online 1 day after signing the contract says a lot about how people love Teebow. 

 

 

 

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Tim Tebow would join Doug Flutie with record nine-year gap between NFL games

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/05/22/tim-tebow-would-join-doug-flutie-with-record-nine-year-gap-between-nfl-games/

 

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In the unlikely event that Tim Tebow actually plays for the Jaguars this season, he’ll return to the field nine years after playing his last NFL game. In doing so, he’d be doing something not seen since Doug Flutie.

Have not seen the betting odds recently but PFT is known for being poor at picking odds.

 

 

 

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Tebow is very different from Flutie, who spent his intervening nine years actually playing football at a high level, albeit in a different league. And there is no players’ strike this year. So what the Jaguars are giving Tebow a chance to do is basically unprecedented in NFL history.

 

 

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, wppete said:

Love it! Great signing for Jacksonville. They get a Super High Character person that could bring a lot to the locker room. No one can deny Teebow is a class act off the filed, if he can prove it on the field this is a home run for Jacksonville. Let’s see if he makes the team, I suspect he does and contributes on the field and definitely off the field. I’ll be watching Jacksonville this year for sure with Lawrence and Teebow. Should be entertaining….. The fact that his jersey became the #1 item in NFL Shop online 1 day after signing the contract says a lot about how people love Teebow. 

 

 

 

Yeah, it's going to be freakin hilarious when the rookie Lawrence has a couple of down games (like all rookies do) and the Jag/Tebow fans turn against their 1st overall pick.

 

There are more Tebow fans than Jag fans, and they're going to eat Lawrence alive.  😆

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14 hours ago, wppete said:

Love it! Great signing for Jacksonville. They get a Super High Character person that could bring a lot to the locker room. No one can deny Teebow is a class act off the filed, if he can prove it on the field this is a home run for Jacksonville. Let’s see if he makes the team, I suspect he does and contributes on the field and definitely off the field.

 

Maybe this is a way for owner to get someone to give spirited speeches which are covered in salary cap.

 

The whole thing reminds me of him going back to play baseball.

https://www.thewrap.com/tim-tebow-baseball-mlb-quarterback-arizona-florida-state/

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College football legend-turned-failed NFL quarterback Tim Tebow is actively pursuing a return to the field. However, his new goal is to wind up on a baseball field, not football.

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“This may sound like a publicity stunt, but nothing could be further from the truth. I have seen Tim’s workouts, and people inside and outside the industry – scouts, executives, players and fans – will be impressed by his talent,” Brodie Van Wagenen

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Van Wagenen continued: “As an agent, I have a genuine respect for how hard it is to succeed at the game of baseball and a true admiration for those who possess the talent to play it at the Major League level

 

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1 hour ago, ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin said:

This might be a sneaky good move by slick old Urban Meyer.

 

Everyone is talking about Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow right now, very little about Trevor Lawrence.

This move might be cheap media bait to deflect attention from Lawrence in his rookie offseason?

Deflect attention?  All of northern and central Florida are going to be calling for Tebow to start at QB.  Lawrence is going to be under a microscope with every mistake being vilified.

 

The Jag message boards are going to be a toxic swamp of Tebow supporters calling for wholesome Tebow to start ahead of the long-haired rookie freak.

 

If Tebow gets a roster spot, Jacksonville will be a more toxic environment for Lawrence than New York was for Darnold.

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2 hours ago, Perry Turtle said:

Yeah, it's going to be freakin hilarious when the rookie Lawrence has a couple of down games (like all rookies do) and the Jag/Tebow fans turn against their 1st overall pick.

 

There are more Tebow fans than Jag fans, and they're going to eat Lawrence alive.  😆


Should be very interesting that’s for sure. But Jags have 2 super high character guys at QB now 😂

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On 5/21/2021 at 11:47 AM, Fred Slacks said:

Just chiming in here.  I know there has been some debate in NFL circles about Tebow getting a shot before Kapernick.  I am not here to stoke that fire.  Just putting in some thoughts.  I recall hearing Kapernick having a demanding price to play.  Which probably means he feels he is worth more than a team was offering him.  Maybe that part isn't true.  I am not sure.  

 

Tebow signed for minimum.  Which means he is trying out and no guarantee to make the team.   https://www.nfl.com/news/jaguars-signed-te-tim-tebow-for-one-year-minimum-920k-deal

 

I can honestly see Tebow running down the filed to cover kicks.  Maybe he lucks out and gets some Taysom Hill type reps.  But it looks like it is a genuine try to make the team as a TE.  Will be interesting.  He is an athlete and I could see him pulling it off at a 3rd TE/practice squad player.  

 

I can't envision Kapernick being willing to play a different position.  Maybe next season he tries that route? IDK.  But I think that is the epitome of what the difference is between the two situations.

If you don't know if something is true or not, it's best not to lead your post with it. 

 

'Lucks out and gets some Taysom Hill type reps', ?  It certainly wouldn't be because of his last 9 years of QB play, which is non existent.

 

It's a farce that he's being given this opportunity. He hasn't earned it. It's because he's neighbors and good friends with the head coach. No other 34 year old player out of football for 6 years and never having played the position at any level would be given this opportunity.

17 minutes ago, wppete said:


Should be very interesting that’s for sure. But Jags have 2 super high character guys at QB now 😂

Who's the other one besides Lawrence?

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I know every one that talks about Teabow never has much good to say about him i think that is more based on his religious convictions for some reason than his play . And is based some what on a world that had more of the cancel culture in it when he played than we realized .

 

Sure his numbers at QB in the NFL aren't real pretty but the one year he was the starter he had a winning season . I looked at his high light real the dude was a weapon no matter what anyone thinks . Check it out for your self .

 

If there was or is a team that would have done what Baltimore has done with Jackson and change the offense to fit the player i believe he could have done the same thing as Lamar but the short sightedness at the time he was drafted to not play to his strengths was pretty apparent !

 

Teabow is first a HUGE competitor and a great person/motivator & team guy and will do what ever it takes for the team to succeed i think Urban Myer knows that better than any one and will use him in many different ways to prove his worth .

 

Plus he knows because of that and his moral convictions he will be a great mentor to the young players on the team not only to show them how to be a great team/NFL player on the field but how to be a great human being off the field to make them really good people in a world that is so screwed up and a couple more that would act a bit more like a Tim Teabow would be a welcome in this world  for sure ...

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On 5/22/2021 at 12:55 PM, Perry Turtle said:

Yeah, it's going to be freakin hilarious when the rookie Lawrence has a couple of down games (like all rookies do) and the Jag/Tebow fans turn against their 1st overall pick.

 

There are more Tebow fans than Jag fans, and they're going to eat Lawrence alive.  😆

 

Good thing nobody shows up to Jags games, Lawrence won't hear anyone booing.

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On 5/22/2021 at 2:33 PM, Perry Turtle said:

Deflect attention?  All of northern and central Florida are going to be calling for Tebow to start at QB.  Lawrence is going to be under a microscope with every mistake being vilified.

 

The Jag message boards are going to be a toxic swamp of Tebow supporters calling for wholesome Tebow to start ahead of the long-haired rookie freak.

 

If Tebow gets a roster spot, Jacksonville will be a more toxic environment for Lawrence than New York was for Darnold.

My opinion differs with yours. That is cool. I think it's been very clear from day 1 he is not being brought in to QB, but to try TE.

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23 hours ago, T master said:

I know every one that talks about Teabow never has much good to say about him i think that is more based on his religious convictions for some reason than his play . And is based some what on a world that had more of the cancel culture in it when he played than we realized .

 

Sure his numbers at QB in the NFL aren't real pretty but the one year he was the starter he had a winning season . I looked at his high light real the dude was a weapon no matter what anyone thinks . Check it out for your self .

 

If there was or is a team that would have done what Baltimore has done with Jackson and change the offense to fit the player i believe he could have done the same thing as Lamar but the short sightedness at the time he was drafted to not play to his strengths was pretty apparent !

 

Teabow is first a HUGE competitor and a great person/motivator & team guy and will do what ever it takes for the team to succeed i think Urban Myer knows that better than any one and will use him in many different ways to prove his worth .

 

Plus he knows because of that and his moral convictions he will be a great mentor to the young players on the team not only to show them how to be a great team/NFL player on the field but how to be a great human being off the field to make them really good people in a world that is so screwed up and a couple more that would act a bit more like a Tim Teabow would be a welcome in this world  for sure ...

This illustrates exactly what most people hated about Tebow.  It has nothing to do with him personally, it’s hearing this crap from the legion of religious fans that worship him every time his limitations as an NFL football player are brought up.  

He wasn’t nearly good enough nine years ago - and that absolutely was in an offense completely tailored to him despite what you claim - and he isn’t going to be good enough now at a new position after not playing since 2016.  Is there another player that wouldn’t be roundly laughed at for something like that?

 

Oh and the “Leadership” angle is crap too.  Virtually no one on an NFL team is going to care what he says or does.  They’re mostly grown men who are there to do a job.  Rah rah college crap does not carry much weight.  Also why the heck would anyone want a guy who - if he even makes the team - will be at the end of the roster on a vet minimum one year contract to be a team leader?  That would be a distraction from players like Lawrence who should have that position.  I’d actually lose respect for Tebow (who I don’t blame for the actions of his fans) if he hurt the team that way.  I definitely will lose some respect for Urban if Tebow makes the 53.

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50 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

This illustrates exactly what most people hated about Tebow.  It has nothing to do with him personally, it’s hearing this crap from the legion of religious fans that worship him every time his limitations as an NFL football player are brought up.  

He wasn’t nearly good enough nine years ago - and that absolutely was in an offense completely tailored to him despite what you claim - and he isn’t going to be good enough now at a new position after not playing since 2016.  Is there another player that wouldn’t be roundly laughed at for something like that?

 

Oh and the “Leadership” angle is crap too.  Virtually no one on an NFL team is going to care what he says or does.  They’re mostly grown men who are there to do a job.  Rah rah college crap does not carry much weight.  Also why the heck would anyone want a guy who - if he even makes the team - will be at the end of the roster on a vet minimum one year contract to be a team leader?  That would be a distraction from players like Lawrence who should have that position.  I’d actually lose respect for Tebow (who I don’t blame for the actions of his fans) if he hurt the team that way.  I definitely will lose some respect for Urban if Tebow makes the 53.

 

Why would you lose respect for Urban Meyer if Tebow earns a spot on the 53?  It's not like they have some loaded TE room, and nobody - not you, not I - have any idea how Tebow looks at Tight End. 

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5 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Why would you lose respect for Urban Meyer if Tebow earns a spot on the 53?  It's not like they have some loaded TE room, and nobody - not you, not I - have any idea how Tebow looks at Tight End. 

Because it is an unnecessary risk that, on it's face, has almost no upside. 

 

It reeks of a vanity project more than a solid football move.  

 

And the move falls in line with recent big named college coaches falling on their face when they make the move to the pros, because they fail to grasp the level of professionalism required to be successful in the NFL.

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Perry Turtle said:

Because it is an unnecessary risk that, on it's face, has almost no upside. 

 

It reeks of a vanity project more than a solid football move.  

 

And the move falls in line with recent big named college coaches falling on their face when they make the move to the pros, because they fail to grasp the level of professionalism required to be successful in the NFL.

 

 

 

This is spot on.  Tebow will be 34 in August.  The guy has not played football for nine years and is changing positions.  Incidentally that’s changing positions to TE, which he has never played.  Then there’s the distraction factor, which Urban is inviting.  For what?  If he’s very lucky it’ll be for a guy who is an old player/buddy of his sitting at the end of the bench for a season or two.  At worst, it’s a joke that’ll be a distraction to his team and hurt him in the locker room.  I mean, how would a Jags player not look at this and think Meyer was in way over his head?  It’s a joke.

 

I am a lifelong Buckeyes fan and Urban was a great hire for tOSU.  He was a great college coach for a long time, but he did not seem to be evolving with the game.  Specifically I saw two big issues:

1) Haskins.  When he was QB at tOSU Meyer did not change the offense to suit him even though he was as poor a fit as you could find for it.  A great coach has to be better than that. 

2) As the RO/RPO scheme ran into defenses built to combat it he did not evolve.  The difference between his offense and Day’s are substantial.  The Buckeyes got very lucky (were very smart?) with how things worked out.  If Day had become another tOSU assistant coach who became HC of their rival to the North (like Bo Schembechler did) things could have been disastrous for them.  Instead they have a great coach with a modern take on a highly effective offensive scheme. 

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1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

This is spot on.  Tebow will be 34 in August.  The guy has not played football for nine years and is changing positions.  Incidentally that’s changing positions to TE, which he has never played.  Then there’s the distraction factor, which Urban is inviting.  For what?  If he’s very lucky it’ll be for a guy who is an old player/buddy of his sitting at the end of the bench for a season or two.  At worst, it’s a joke that’ll be a distraction to his team and hurt him in the locker room.  I mean, how would a Jags player not look at this and think Meyer was in way over his head?  It’s a joke.

 

 

 

We have a 30 year old rugby player trying his odds at RB.  Not sure why people get so in their feelings about Tebow.   

 

If he can't play, he won't make the 53.  If he can, he should.  

 

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1 hour ago, SCBills said:

 

We have a 30 year old rugby player trying his odds at RB.  Not sure why people get so in their feelings about Tebow.   

 

If he can't play, he won't make the 53.  If he can, he should.  

 

That rugby player has an exemption so he is not taking up a roster spot like Tebow is.  Also nothing feelings related in my post.  Strictly a stupid decision as explained.  Feel free to discuss that. 

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23 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

This illustrates exactly what most people hated about Tebow.  It has nothing to do with him personally, it’s hearing this crap from the legion of religious fans that worship him every time his limitations as an NFL football player are brought up.  

He wasn’t nearly good enough nine years ago - and that absolutely was in an offense completely tailored to him despite what you claim - and he isn’t going to be good enough now at a new position after not playing since 2016.  Is there another player that wouldn’t be roundly laughed at for something like that?

 

Oh and the “Leadership” angle is crap too.  Virtually no one on an NFL team is going to care what he says or does.  They’re mostly grown men who are there to do a job.  Rah rah college crap does not carry much weight.  Also why the heck would anyone want a guy who - if he even makes the team - will be at the end of the roster on a vet minimum one year contract to be a team leader?  That would be a distraction from players like Lawrence who should have that position.  I’d actually lose respect for Tebow (who I don’t blame for the actions of his fans) if he hurt the team that way.  I definitely will lose some respect for Urban if Tebow makes the 53.

 

To each their own but being a Bills fan for as long as i have i always route for the under dog no matter the sport . Ever since Teabow was coming out of college alls people have ever done is rag on the dude & i would just love to see him make them all eat crow just 1 time . They would never admit it i call that the Flutie effect .

 

He has always had his haters but i will be cheering him on if for no other reason than he is just a good dude and takes any challenge presented head on & gives it his all every time which in todays "I'd rather sit on my A** and play video game world" i give him props .

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I think he's overrated and overhyped but he's not taking a roster spot for a more deserving player. Teams bring 90 to camp and players are cut and signed during camp. If there is a good player out there some team will bring him in

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On 4/29/2021 at 2:48 PM, YoloinOhio said:

 

I truly thought it was from the Onion at first 

 

Good for Tebow. At least he's still competing and trying in some way. It's never too late and that goes for anything & everything, not just football. To say that he's going to hinder the development of Trevor Lawrence I say to those people "grow up!" These are grown *** men. If anything, it takes away the pressure & spotlight off of him.

 

The guys trying to make an NFL roster as a 31 year old at a new position. It's an uphill battle, the odds are highly stacked against him, but at least he's bulking up & putting in the work. It's not his fault that the media obsesses over his every move. I for one really enjoyed his college and short, but exciting NFL career. There's nothing wrong w/ having faith in your religion or going down on your knee and praying after a touchdown. Christianity is a big part of the lives of many NFL players and I'm not sure why he got so much backlash for it, but that's a whole different thread.

 

Certain people are toxic and enjoy to see other people fail and hope for their downfall. I look at players like Fred Jackson, Rich Gannon, Lorenzo Alexander, Kurt Warner, Warren Moon, Doug Flutie, etc as HUGE inspirations. Most of these guys were well into their 30s before they not only became starters, but Hall of Famers when it was all said & done.

 

The bottom line is if Tim Tebow or even freaking Nate Peterman are still trying to achieve their dreams then I say God bless & good luck. I've always been a huge fan of the guy growing up. 

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26 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

 

Good for Tebow. At least he's still competing and trying in some way. It's never too late and that goes for anything & everything, not just football. To say that he's going to hinder the development of Trevor Lawrence I say to those people "grow up!" These are grown *** men. If anything, it takes away the pressure & spotlight off of him.

 

The guys trying to make an NFL roster as a 31 year old at a new position. It's an uphill battle, the odds are highly stacked against him, but at least he's bulking up & putting in the work. It's not his fault that the media obsesses over his every move. I for one really enjoyed his college and short, but exciting NFL career. There's nothing wrong w/ having faith in your religion or going down on your knee and praying after a touchdown. Christianity is a big part of the lives of many NFL players and I'm not sure why he got so much backlash for it, but that's a whole different thread.

 

Certain people are toxic and enjoy to see other people fail and hope for their downfall. I look at players like Fred Jackson, Rich Gannon, Lorenzo Alexander, Kurt Warner, Warren Moon, Doug Flutie, etc as HUGE inspirations. Most of these guys were well into their 30s before they not only became starters, but Hall of Famers when it was all said & done.

 

The bottom line is if Tim Tebow or even freaking Nate Peterman are still trying to achieve their dreams then I say God bless & good luck. I've always been a huge fan of the guy growing up. 

I can’t write that whole darn avatar name so I’ll just settle on CAK or CK, you’re choice.  He’ll no one calls me machine gun Kelly and I wouldn’t either as I’m now just mgk.  Works for me.

 

well written bud.  I do think a guy with a 4’8 40 has a mountain to climb, and a new position.  I don’t doubt at all this kid who I’ve watched since a freshmen at UF living here in FL is special.  He even tried futile not his fault his dorm mate Hernandez once or twice in college.

 

his faith shouldn’t be the issue, but of course it always is as a point.  God forbid we acknowledge a guy who devotes his life to a higher power is a lightning rod.  If he wants to express as others on their own peaceful way fine with me.

 

I think he has a real long shot here, maybe practice squad and if he is humble enough to accept, god bless him.  If he does more great.  
 

from a favorite movie among many is wasted talent, so go for it TT. Many of you know that one.  If I have to say it you don’t know the classics for guys in movies.

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2 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:


Just like you to be the Jimmy the Greek over under on this one.  😏🏈

 

what are the odds, not that I’m onto that. 🤪🏈

I think the under opened at -125 and is around -165 now

 

The rules are he must play week 1 when the season starts and can only be passing/rushing TDs.

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1 hour ago, TBBills said:

Under/Over 2.5 TDs "If he makes the 53 man roster"

Bet your lifesavings on the over:wub:

On 4/29/2021 at 2:48 PM, YoloinOhio said:

 

I truly thought it was from the Onion at first 

Oh silly Ian... Tebow has ALWAYS been a Tight End:wub::flirt:

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I'm not sure why everyone gets bent out of shape about Tebow. He was always a pure football player (not a QB) if he would have swapped to TE right out of college he would have been killer.

 

At this point? Who knows. I won't count him out as he is very talented and dedicated individual, odds are definitely against him at 33 though. I'm actually pulling for him.

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