DrDawkinstein Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/insider/story/_/id/31165378/nfl-mock-draft-2021-todd-mcshay-predictions-all-64-picks-rounds-1-2-plus-where-seven-qbs-land JOK to Giants at #15 Etieene to the Jets at #23 Najee Harris to the Steelers at #24 30. Buffalo Bills Jaelan Phillips, DE, Miami The top two running backs are off the board, and it's a little early for Javonte Williams (North Carolina). So why not inject some life into a middle-of-the-road pass rush instead -- especially with Jerry Hughes turning 33 before the season. Phillips had 8.0 sacks and 15.5 tackles for loss in 2020. 61. Buffalo Bills Levi Onwuzurike, DT, Washington The Bills finally halt Onwuzurike's slide down the board. He is my No. 35 prospect, but there aren't many teams searching for a defensive tackle right now. And while Buffalo might have preferred a running back, tight end or offensive tackle, Onwuzurike is sudden and creates havoc. He could slide in next to Ed Oliver. 11 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 What may be the only negative aspect of the Bills success for me, is my reduced interest in the draft. It is much more interesting when your team is drafting in the top 10! With that said, I hope we don't have another exciting draft for many years! 5 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailgateChef Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 I like the value pick at 61....but are we looking for another light DT? Grab a giant space-eater in the later rounds to tie up double teams and free up Ed and the D Ends (T. Shelvin, B. Brown, T. Slaton could all fit the bill). 7 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 DE and DT Prospects who people believe should have gone higher than we picked them at is A-Okay for me. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 1, 2021 Author Share Posted April 1, 2021 Just now, chknwing334 said: What may be the only negative aspect of the Bills success for me, is my reduced interest in the draft. It is much more interesting when your team is drafting in the top 10! With that said, I hope we don't have another exciting draft for many years! Haha, Ive said the same thing. For a fanbase who has learned to live for the Draft (and mock drafts, the combine, etc), all this winning is really ruining our fun! 1 minute ago, TailgateChef said: I like the value pick at 61....but are we looking for another light DT? Grab a giant space-eater in the later rounds to tie up double teams and free up Ed and the D Ends (T. Shelvin, B. Brown, T. Slaton could all fit the bill). Good question/observation. I had to look it up when you said "light". Onwuzurike is listed at 293lbs. Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Onwuzurike next to Ed Oliver???? Swing and a miss Todd. They play the same position in this scheme - 3 tech. 8 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Thatd be a really good draft 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, chknwing334 said: What may be the only negative aspect of the Bills success for me, is my reduced interest in the draft. It is much more interesting when your team is drafting in the top 10! With that said, I hope we don't have another exciting draft for many years! The draft is my Christmas, so I'll never lose interest in it. It'll just take longer to find out we pick, which is mildly annoying. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Onwuzurike next to Ed Oliver???? Swing and a miss Todd. They play the same position in this scheme - 3 tech. What do you think about Tuefele? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) I do like Phillips FWIW, but neither help me this year. Epenesa will have a bigger impact than an Edge 30. I'm not sure if Beane sits back or moves up, but my money is on CB Edited April 1, 2021 by Reed83HOF 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Solid first two picks. Helps get younger and more dynamic on the D-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: What do you think about Tuefele? I think he is a bit more versatile... is also mainly a 3 tech for me but he can play some 1 tech. Decent player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, TailgateChef said: I like the value pick at 61....but are we looking for another light DT? Grab a giant space-eater in the later rounds to tie up double teams and free up Ed and the D Ends (T. Shelvin, B. Brown, T. Slaton could all fit the bill). Perhaps they will do that as well 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Onwuzurike next to Ed Oliver???? Swing and a miss Todd. They play the same position in this scheme - 3 tech. IMO Todd McShay is the Jason LaCanfora of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 No thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/insider/story/_/id/31165378/nfl-mock-draft-2021-todd-mcshay-predictions-all-64-picks-rounds-1-2-plus-where-seven-qbs-land JOK to Giants at #15 Etieene to the Jets at #23 Najee Harris to the Steelers at #24 30. Buffalo Bills Jaelan Phillips, DE, Miami The top two running backs are off the board, and it's a little early for Javonte Williams (North Carolina). So why not inject some life into a middle-of-the-road pass rush instead -- especially with Jerry Hughes turning 33 before the season. Phillips had 8.0 sacks and 15.5 tackles for loss in 2020. 61. Buffalo Bills Levi Onwuzurike, DT, Washington The Bills finally halt Onwuzurike's slide down the board. He is my No. 35 prospect, but there aren't many teams searching for a defensive tackle right now. And while Buffalo might have preferred a running back, tight end or offensive tackle, Onwuzurike is sudden and creates havoc. He could slide in next to Ed Oliver. LOVE LOVE LOVE Phillips, but not a Levi O guy AT ALL. Washington's not a well run organization right now and this guy was adequate at best for that defense (to say nothing of suboptimal scheme fit). Lots of guys I'd take over him there. Full disclosure: I hate the huskies with the intensity of a billion suns, so I may be slightly biased. But still, awful fit. Edited April 1, 2021 by glazeduck 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 1, 2021 Author Share Posted April 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Solid first two picks. Helps get younger and more dynamic on the D-line. I wont ever complain about adding to the trenches. But wondering if these are the right guys at the right spots to help the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 if we get jaelan phillips then I'll be happy no matter who we pick after that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, glazeduck said: The draft is my Christmas, so I'll never lose interest in it. It'll just take longer to find out we pick, which is mildly annoying. You must of hated last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, glazeduck said: LOVE LOVE LOVE Phillips, but not a Levi O guy AT ALL. Washington's not a well run organization right now and this guy was adequate at best for that defense (to say nothing of suboptimal scheme fit). Lots of guys I'd take over him there. Full disclosure: I hate the huskies with the intensity of a billion suns, so I may be slightly biased. But still, awful fit. So Tryon and Molden are off your list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: So Tryon and Molden are off your list? Not off, no. Molden’s a bad fit for our backfield and I simply have others ahead of Tryon. I could see him being a decent pick for us in the 3rd, but am hoping we go edge earlier than that and also guessing he goes earlier as well... 6 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: You must of hated last year. Nah. It’s about the whole thing for me, the bills’ pick is always added fun but I’d watch every second of a draft that they don’t have even one pick in. I love it that much. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 I wouldn't mind Phillips at #30. Levi Onwuzurike in the 2nd Round though? Yeah, nah. Personally, I see him more as a 5-Tech. No need for anymore lightweight DT's. We need a true 1-Tech. My personal favorite is Bobby Brown III out of Texas A&M, but there are 7-8 solid prospects at the position in this draft. Pass on this one. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think he is a bit more versatile... is also mainly a 3 tech for me but he can play some 1 tech. Decent player. What does the 1 Tech prospects look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 43 minutes ago, TailgateChef said: I like the value pick at 61....but are we looking for another light DT? Grab a giant space-eater in the later rounds to tie up double teams and free up Ed and the D Ends (T. Shelvin, B. Brown, T. Slaton could all fit the bill). This. He’s a 3T in our system imo. Pairing him next to Ed on passing down would bolster our pressure in spots where we aren’t worried about the run. I’d prefer a true 1T. Levi is not that 22 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: So Tryon and Molden are off your list? Molden is off my list as he’s a slot corner. We need a boundary corner. Positional value of a slot corner is zilch. The best slot corners are getting paid 2-4M a year. We should be able to lock up Taron after the season for 2-4M a year or sign another top slot corner for that much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregthekeg Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 38 minutes ago, glazeduck said: The draft is my Christmas, so I'll never lose interest in it. It'll just take longer to find out we pick, which is mildly annoying. Nothing beats the saturday morning of the old draft format. Used to have everyone over and we would make breakfast, lunch, and dinner with a group of guys. All day drinking, eating, and hanging out watching and guessing who would get picked, who was already a bust, then in the later rounds playing cards with everyone while the draft was in the background. The new format may bring more eyes to the draft but IMHO the one long day was king. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: What does the 1 Tech prospects look like? This would be ideal...😁 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 50 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Onwuzurike next to Ed Oliver???? Swing and a miss Todd. They play the same position in this scheme - 3 tech. Yep........as do Butler, Zimmer and Obada. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 I find it amusing how after seeing hundreds mocks this year every once in a while someone mocks quite high some guy I've never heard of. This time it is Tutu Atwell, WRs, Lousville. I don't remember seeing his name before and boom - pick 33. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: This would be ideal...😁 Or somebody like this... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said: Or somebody like this... Yes!!! I'd be good with that as well!!😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 This is what the draft would look like if we don’t move up. So if you don’t like it, a move up is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Levi better hit the BBQ stands and ice cream parlors if he is going to play DT for America's Team! If the DT doesn't come in at at LEAST 330 pounds before we get him on the Buffalo pizza diet I'm not interested... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 32 minutes ago, Gregthekeg said: Nothing beats the saturday morning of the old draft format. Used to have everyone over and we would make breakfast, lunch, and dinner with a group of guys. All day drinking, eating, and hanging out watching and guessing who would get picked, who was already a bust, then in the later rounds playing cards with everyone while the draft was in the background. The new format may bring more eyes to the draft but IMHO the one long day was king. 100% those were some extremely fun days in my fraternity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 26 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: I find it amusing how after seeing hundreds mocks this year every once in a while someone mocks quite high some guy I've never heard of. This time it is Tutu Atwell, WRs, Lousville. I don't remember seeing his name before and boom - pick 33. He had been around Daniel Jeremiah's top 30-35 prospects on his big board up until recently. Sounds like he had a relatively disappointing Pro Day with "just" a 4.42 40 while weighing 155 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Levi better hit the BBQ stands and ice cream parlors if he is going to play DT for America's Team! If the DT doesn't come in at at LEAST 330 pounds before we get him on the Buffalo pizza diet I'm not interested... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 2 hours ago, chknwing334 said: What may be the only negative aspect of the Bills success for me, is my reduced interest in the draft. It is much more interesting when your team is drafting in the top 10! With that said, I hope we don't have another exciting draft for many years! It works a bit in my favor this time. Due to Covid my son’s wedding date got pushed around. It happened to land where I’ll miss the first 2 days of the draft live. He’s kicking himself, but it was a rookie mistake. We still love him. 🤷♂️ 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: I wont ever complain about adding to the trenches. But wondering if these are the right guys at the right spots to help the team. Agree with you on the non-sexy picks for the trenches. Maybe he’s saving more intelligent versions of his mock for closer to the draft? How many mocks do they have to come up with to get paid? Save the best for last! 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: What does the 1 Tech prospects look like? Usually kinda “round”. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 I'd take Phillips in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Onwuzurike next to Ed Oliver???? Swing and a miss Todd. They play the same position in this scheme - 3 tech. He played plenty of 1-tech at Washington, played 3-tech as well as 5-tech too, but he's versatile and strong. I don't love the pick because I'd rather get a big body like Shelvin in the 3rd and Beane made a comment about getting bigger on the line so I think he agrees. But I don't think Onwuzurike is a bad pick, we rotate out DL a lot and would be a replacement for Vernon Butler, not Ed Oliver. Edited April 1, 2021 by ndirish1978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: He played plenty of 1-tech at Washington, played 3-tech as well as 5-tech too, but he's versatile and strong. I don't love the pick because I'd rather get a big body like Shelvin in the 3rd and Beane made a comment about getting bigger on the line so I think he agrees. But I don't think Onwuzurike is a bad pick, we rotate out DL a lot and would be a replacement for Vernon Butler, not Ed Oliver. Ed played 1 tech at Houston too. He can't do it in the league at 290lbs. Onwuzurike won't be able to either. Smaller bodied DTs in this league have to make money as penetrators. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Ed played 1 tech at Houston too. He can't do it in the league at 290lbs. Onwuzurike won't be able to either. Smaller bodied DTs in this league have to make money as penetrators. I think my post was unclear. I believe they would have him spell Ed Oliver with the odd turn at 1-tech if there were an injury so we don't have to slide Oliver over. Remember we should have both Phillips and Star back this year. I wouldn't draft Onwuzurike to play 1-tech. I do believe they would move him around though when the situation calls for because Beane loves players who are multiple. Edited April 1, 2021 by ndirish1978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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