JohnNord Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 10 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: This wouldn’t surprise me. He’d take this offense to the next level and they don’t need him to carry it. I will be shocked if Sammy sign a deal. Remember last year there were rumors that Marcel was back in Buffalo? Didn’t exactly end with a signing. Also Beane and McDermott rarely give players a second chance after they cut them - especially those whose departures were on somewhat bad terms - ie Dareus and Richie Incognito. While there are a few exceptions (EJ Gaines), it almost never happens. Finally with the Bills top 4 WR’s set, it doesn’t make any sense to sign a WR5 who doesn’t play special teams when you have players like Kukerow and Hodgins and still could use a KR and WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: I think my first bolded on this is also highly opinionated so I wont respond to that. Also there is no video to my recollection of him not finishing plays or routs. There was times he did not come back to the QB in need and heck.. that was well documented with even Brown last year. Some would call making it to the NFL level a success because how many teams even now don't have a true #1 WR? As to your opinion of him playing for money? I don't know where you get that or where it has ever been documented that he just plays for money. We got a second round draft pick out of him that indeed helped us get Josh Allen. Was Darby a bad culture fit also? I don't think so? They get a 3rd round pick for Darby then they all the picks we got to trade for there people. They wanted an immediate detachment of what was built. They wanted a better QB and a QB for the defense. Without trading who we traded they could not do what they did and we would not have Josh Allen and Edmunds. SO Bottom line.. Just answer this.. Would Sammy Watkins improve this WR roster? I doubt anyone can say no and as for any "Maturaty issues or Loafing as you put it? Pretty sure Diggs would put a stop to that in a hurry" Just remember, when players don't do there job on the field by giving up on plays or taking plays off.. This is the same WR receiver that did this Exposed Sherman. I can say he would not necessarily improve the roster. Is he really better than Kumetow or Hodgins as the 4th WR? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I doubt we’re bringing in Sammy when we just signed Sanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I call bull####! No way man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) Having him at WR4 doesn’t help this team. Prefer to keep Davis in the mix and build him. Davis has a bright future and don’t want to slow his progress by adding someone who may take his playing time. Is this insurance if Sanders doesn’t work out, or if Sanders isn’t on the team next year? Still not worth it to me. He was a negative presence when he was here, and fans don’t forget that. We need to focus on our current needs, TE for sure. We need to focus on positions that will help us get to the next level. Pretty stacked at WR right now and adding Watkins doesn’t improve this team when you have Diggs, Beas, Sanders and Davis as your top 4 WR. If Davis continues to improve with playing time, he has the chance to be better than Watkins next season. That includes his being a team player, and being in the field. Edited March 19, 2021 by davefan66 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 29 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: I think my first bolded on this is also highly opinionated so I wont respond to that. Also there is no video to my recollection of him not finishing plays or routs. There was times he did not come back to the QB in need and heck.. that was well documented with even Brown last year. Some would call making it to the NFL level a success because how many teams even now don't have a true #1 WR? As to your opinion of him playing for money? I don't know where you get that or where it has ever been documented that he just plays for money. We got a second round draft pick out of him that indeed helped us get Josh Allen. Was Darby a bad culture fit also? I don't think so? They get a 3rd round pick for Darby then they all the picks we got to trade for there people. They wanted an immediate detachment of what was built. They wanted a better QB and a QB for the defense. Without trading who we traded they could not do what they did and we would not have Josh Allen and Edmunds. SO Bottom line.. Just answer this.. Would Sammy Watkins improve this WR roster? I doubt anyone can say no and as for any "Maturaty issues or Loafing as you put it? Pretty sure Diggs would put a stop to that in a hurry" Just remember, when players don't do there job on the field by giving up on plays or taking plays off.. This is the same WR receiver that did this Exposed Sherman. I guess he could take JB's spot.......on IR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, JMF2006 said: I guess he could take JB's spot.......on IR Lol your Hypocrisy has no bounds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: Lol your Hypocrisy has no bounds Come on the guy is always hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: I doubt we’re bringing in Sammy when we just signed Sanders. People also never thought that we needed a strong stable force at QB Backup this year but I was guessing it. 1 one we right for every 3 we wrong so you may be right on this one lol Just now, JMF2006 said: Come on the guy is always hurt. Always? like he misses 8 games a year? Come on.. ITs not like we expecting him to start or #2 or maybe not even #3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: People also never thought that we needed a strong stable force at QB Backup this year but I was guessing it. 1 one we right for every 3 we wrong so you may be right on this one lol Always? like he misses 8 games a year? Come on.. ITs not like we expecting him to start or #2 or maybe not even #3 I am a Gabby fan and want to see more of him this year...he was awesome a rookie late round pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: I am a Gabby fan and want to see more of him this year...he was awesome a rookie late round pick. It took a while lol but glad we got to the real reason you don't want Sammy. All good lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: It took a while lol but glad we got to the real reason you don't want Sammy. All good lol I have a Sammy jersey...no one pulled harder or cheered more for him than me. That ship has sailed though and the Bills have better options now.....unless he can return punts at the league minimum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: People also never thought that we needed a strong stable force at QB Backup this year but I was guessing it. 1 one we right for every 3 we wrong so you may be right on this one lol Always? like he misses 8 games a year? Come on.. ITs not like we expecting him to start or #2 or maybe not even #3 PT, I’m not saying I wouldn’t mind him as a backup, just don’t think it’s likely. He had helped in KC in spot duty. He’d have to come in cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: I have a Sammy jersey...no one pulled harder or cheered more for him than me. That ship has sailed though and the Bills have better options now.....unless he can return punts at the league minimum oh come on... There are many teams he can be #2 and you know it lol. 8 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: PT, I’m not saying I wouldn’t mind him as a backup, just don’t think it’s likely. He had helped in KC in spot duty. He’d have to come in cheap. 3-4 mil a year? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: That situation was real bad, no real QB and the team was trash, plus the Patriots owned the division And he was so selfish he did nothing to help drag us up. He ran away rather than play his best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: And he was so selfish he did nothing to help drag us up. He ran away rather than play his best. People can change. Give him the chance to prove it. Ability wise, on the right affordable one-year deal, he would be a great signing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, CSBill said: People can change. Give him the chance to prove it. Ability wise, on the right affordable one-year deal, he would be a great signing. 100% agree. Cause he knows... IF he fails this team? no one will want him 11 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: And he was so selfish he did nothing to help drag us up. He ran away rather than play his best. Niagara Dude is right.. You have to look at who was throwing to him. There was a reason why Sammy was growing unstable when with an unstable team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, JohnNord said: I will be shocked if Sammy sign a deal. Remember last year there were rumors that Marcel was back in Buffalo? Didn’t exactly end with a signing. Also Beane and McDermott rarely give players a second chance after they cut them - especially those whose departures were on somewhat bad terms - ie Dareus and Richie Incognito. While there are a few exceptions (EJ Gaines), it almost never happens. Finally with the Bills top 4 WR’s set, it doesn’t make any sense to sign a WR5 who doesn’t play special teams when you have players like Kukerow and Hodgins and still could use a KR and WR. He was actually here. He shared pics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 if he's cheap watkins can 100% help our team. speed and physical ability fits all shemes. if he catches 30 passes on the year, he'll break a couple, those could win games. having a secret weapon or formation (and you know dabol loves that stuff) for the playoffs or the best teams would be huge. assuming we don't do anything to improve our pass rush (we still need at least one more quality DL in the guts, im assuming Star isn't about to be who he was his first 2 years in the nfl) having one extra gear on O, even if it is monthly and not weekly, might be all we need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, CSBill said: People can change. Give him the chance to prove it. Ability wise, on the right affordable one-year deal, he would be a great signing. While I agree with you, I’d also say that if Watkins comes back to play for Buffalo it’ll probably be because the situations have changed. Both the one in Buffalo with the Bills and the one where he’s not getting nearly the offers he used to think he was worth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Prime, if you think he really would accept $3-4 mil., has hopefully gone to rehab and stopped drinking, then he’s, people can change. He had a me first attitude when here, so Hopefully the Rams and Chiefs made an impact there. A team taking him on would on.y happen with a strong minded coach with a good culture. I don’t hold grudges in my professional or personal life, so I’m fine with all of those caveats. I’d wonder out loud if he could return. If so McKenzie might not get signed. I have no idea who would be the better option. I really like McKenzie so you guys decide. It would be plausible to have both meaning... Diggs Beasely Davis Sanders McKenzie Watkins That would mean Hodgins would go back to the PS unless he beats out one of the above. Since we’re playing the what if’s, that would mean no WR in the mid rounds of the draft. I know McBeane likes to develop their own so you’d think they would lean towards McKenzie and Hodgins, but you get more speed for Watkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Why wouldn't he just go back to KC for 3-4m? He knows the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: 100% agree. Cause he knows... IF he fails this team? no one will want him Niagara Dude is right.. You have to look at who was throwing to him. There was a reason why Sammy was growing unstable when with an unstable team I understand your point, this franchise was sad back in those days. However, Sammy actually had his best years in Buffalo. He’s been a bigger failure with LA and KC, than he was in Buffalo. Those teams had elite offenses, but he did very little apart from randomly looking elite in the playoffs with KC. The guy is hurt every season, and seems to put effort into playing only when he feels like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 8 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Is this for real? Why isn't Beane looking at our most glaring positions of need at the moment in CB, TE and pass rusher? Granted I am sure he gets one or two of those in the draft next month and they'll be immediate starters... but still... aren't we stacked at WR now? We're less stacked than we were last year, and there is a striking lack of speed. Beane said they needed to add speed, but so far they've only subtracted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: Why wouldn't he just go back to KC for 3-4m? He knows the system. Maybe they don’t want him back. He barely saw the field this season. I understand the talent Andy Reid saw in him, but he might be giving up at this point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 It's almost like people don't remember the history Watkins had in Buffalo. ZERO percent chance he is in Buffalo. Anyone can start a twitter account and post whatever they want 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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North Buffalo Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Sign him for the summer, get all you can of his knowledge about the Chiefs out of him and as soon as he is injured cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: He was actually here. He shared pics. Point is, it didn’t lead to him signing 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: “I rarely miss?” His career says otherwise 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Rented the North Park Theatre for a private screening of an Adam Sandler movie? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 9 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Pinto Ken? 😂 Yes. His name is Ken Johnson. A dumb reporter got his name wrong once. He is Pinto Ken or Pinto Kenny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) Marcel Dareus is in town too Edited March 19, 2021 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I understand your point, this franchise was sad back in those days. However, Sammy actually had his best years in Buffalo. He’s been a bigger failure with LA and KC, than he was in Buffalo. Those teams had elite offenses, but he did very little apart from randomly looking elite in the playoffs with KC. The guy is hurt every season, and seems to put effort into playing only when he feels like it. I keep reading this Narrative on him and looking for video to prove this Narrative but other then not running back to a QB which is a common trade for #2 or worse Receivers, I cant find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: King me. Sammy is playing checkers while everyone else is playing chess. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Marcel Dareus is also in town WTF?! * "No, we keep trying to tell you it's 'WFT'." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 34 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: He was actually here. He shared pics. Where are you seeing pictures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 He seems like the me first kinda guy. Doesn't seem McDermott-ie enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Where are you seeing pictures? He’s referring to Dareus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: King me. Sammy is playing checkers while everyone else is playing chess. On a one year deal this would be a great signing, we would not need to worry about TE and could just line up 5 WR'S. Sammy has elite talent and you need elite talent to win in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 9 hours ago, rayray808 said: my cousin swore me to secrecy but tomorrow should be a fun day! Dude you scammed us all with this last time. You’re a fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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