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7 minutes ago, rayray808 said:

my cousin swore me to secrecy but tomorrow should be a fun day!

It is Friday and that is always a fun day,  sources are saying that Sammy is signing with the Bills. 

6 minutes ago, Simon said:

That would be awesome if it turned out like this:

 

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He just looked better in a Bills uniform

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3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

This wouldn’t surprise me.  He’d take this offense to the next level and they don’t need him to carry it.

You can only throw so many passes. Are we going with 5 WRs on every down? This signing would make zero sense, at any price.

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49 minutes ago, Srw1525 said:

I mean I would take him and accept it if Buffalo signed him sure. (Even if that’s the reason he was in buffalo). But toward the end of his time in buffalo he asked out and wanted to be traded/released. Why bring him back now after a player wanting out?

That situation was real bad,  no real QB and the team was trash,  plus the Patriots owned the division

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I've been one of his biggest detractors over the past few years and the main reason wasn't so much about him but what people perceived his value was worth.   Ever since early in his career, he has been an average starting 2-3 WR.   He's injured too often, non factor in more games than not and too inconsistent, nowhere near worth the money he was paid.      With that said, if the Bills can get him for $6M a year or less, then I'm all for it.    At $6M a year, he starts to become more of a bargain.

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4 minutes ago, Magox said:

I've been one of his biggest detractors over the past few years and the main reason wasn't so much about him but what people perceived his value was worth.   Ever since early in his career, he has been an average starting 2-3 WR.   He's injured too often, non factor in more games than not and too inconsistent, nowhere near worth the money he was paid.      With that said, if the Bills can get him for $6M a year or less, then I'm all for it.    At $6M a year, he starts to become more of a bargain.

 

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2020/5/18/21262099/sammy-watkins-partied-himself-to-failure-buffalo-bills-trade-los-angeles-rams-kansas-city-chiefs

 

Wow!  Just read that story.   I take back what I just said. 

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1 hour ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Pinto Ken? 😂

 

Hey, paisano - Pinto Ken, Pinto Ron... what's the difference? :oops:  😆

 

But we are glad Ken, aka Pinto Ron, is on the mend! 👍

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3 minutes ago, Magox said:

He just needs to be introduced to Kratom, if he hasn’t been already, and those problems will go away immediately. He was just a kid.

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3 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Can’t have enough big play WRs in today’s NFL.... especially for what the Bills like to do offensively.

 

Yeah, but you thought he was worth $16 million a year.  There were a number of you that thought the Bills should have kept him, after reading everything about him, his inability to stay healthy, inconsistent game play, terrible locker room presence, lack of commitment, we can safely say that you guys were all wrong and that Beane was right.

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3 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

Could of changed. 

 

Know a person who was super heavy like that. Had everything lined up for that person. But 8 months sober from everything and building it right.  People do change.

 

But trusting McDermott and Beane on this. If they feel he is a fit and change person, less then 4 mil i'll be for it.

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Just now, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

 

Could of changed. 

 

Know a person who was super heavy like that. Had everything lined up for that person. But 8 months sober from everything and building it right.  People do change.

 

But trusting McDermott and Beane on this. If they feel he is a fit and change person, less then 4 mil i'll be for it.

 

Yeah, I actually agree with that.  I was sort of kidding but man, I had no idea that he was that bad of a presence on the Bills team.  The players were happy that he left and I think it was a good thing for him to have a change of scenery.    If Beane thinks he's worth it to kick the tires again then I'd be for it.   But I just don't believe that they will.  

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2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Is this for real?

 

Why isn't Beane looking at our most glaring positions of need at the moment in CB, TE and pass rusher?

 

Granted I am sure he gets one or two of those in the draft next month and they'll be immediate starters... but still... aren't we stacked at WR now?

I’m sure he’s looking at every position. And no we don’t know if it’s for real or why he’s in Buffalo . They do still need to add 29 players. 

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3 hours ago, Logic said:

I just don’t understand where anyone who buys the idea of Watkins potentially signing here thinks Watkins is gonna line up?

 

Why, at age 27, after being a critical part of the Chiefs offense, would he come here to be WR5 and rarely see the field?

 

It makes no sense. None.

 

Ha! 

 

Hey man. I like Davis. I think he has a second contract here, possibly even as a WR1....

 

But let’s not kid ourselves, Watkins probably passes Davis in the depth chart in the rotation with Diggs and Sanders. Is also probably the 4th WR in a 4 wide set. 

 

Sure, maybe Davis has a great camp in 2021. But in 2020 Sammy > Davis. 

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6 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said:

If we had to have one former Clemson star return to our team in 2021 who would it be; CJ Spiller age 34 or Sammy Watkins age 28? 
 

 


CJ Spiller, love how he used that incredible speed to hit that .... pulling guard in the back. 

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13 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said:

If we had to have one former Clemson star return to our team in 2021 who would it be; CJ Spiller age 34 or Sammy Watkins age 28? 

 

I mean, I understand the Sammy hate from Bills fans. But this isn't even a question. Age aside, Sammy was playing a couple months ago. C.J. Spiller hasn't been in the NFL in 4 years.

 

If the question were Sammy at 28 or C.J at 28 - that would be a different story.

 

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The guy is a headcase and a negative locker room presence.

 

He put forth little effort in his time here, IMO he faked injuries at times so he wouldn't have to play, then got himself traded out of here to a "contender" at the time.

 

Now that the Bills are a contender he thinks he can come back to the Bills and all will be forgiven with the fans?? I highly doubt it.

 

It would be a hard pass if it was my decision.

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You have to have thick skin to come back to the franchise that you s*** on as an employee and on another team. You come back knowing the flack you will face and still want to play? For a man to add added stress to your job because you love the sport. Dude is totally welcome, especially if he is committed to being his best self as a man and player, I'm all in.

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3 minutes ago, Clyde Smith said:

You have to have thick skin to come back to the franchise that you s*** on as an employee and on another team. You come back knowing the flack you will face and still want to play? For a man to add added stress to your job because you love the sport. Dude is totally welcome, especially if he is committed to being his best self as a man and player, I'm all in.

He spent all of his money on Guatemalan Worry Dolls. He’s broke.

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Huh. I don't really get where he'd slot in tbh, and he can't return anything or help on ST, so I'm going to assume it has nothing to do with the team. Seriously, would he be 5th on the depth chart? Why would he leave his current situation to essentially be our Byron Pringle? Sammy's weird but probably not weird enough to willingly move down the depth chart.

 

That said I don't get the comments on him being a negative locker room presence. His teammates love him. 2014 was a long time ago, and I don't think he was ever a bad apple anyway, just kind of strange and anxious.

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47 minutes ago, Special K said:

The guy is a headcase and a negative locker room presence.

 

He put forth little effort in his time here, IMO he faked injuries at times so he wouldn't have to play, then got himself traded out of here to a "contender" at the time.

 

Now that the Bills are a contender he thinks he can come back to the Bills and all will be forgiven with the fans?? I highly doubt it.

 

It would be a hard pass if it was my decision.


Agreed. I think his act got old in KC too. Guy makes $15M, takes up a roster spot, and shows up for 2 games each year. I doubt KC would even sign him back for the vet minimum— they are better off having a guy that plays most Sundays, as are we. 

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57 minutes ago, Mango said:

Sure, maybe Davis has a great camp in 2021. But in 2020 Sammy > Davis. 

 

No I have to disagree with this. Gabe Davis is special and learning from some some top tier talent right now. He's not falling past Watkins or Emmanuel Sanders on the depth chart. And there's Sanders too, who by all accounts is far more dependable than Watkins. McKenzie can return. I have no idea where Watkins fits unless he's just like hey guys I loved living in your city, let me just be weird and hold down the 5th/6th spot on the depth chart.

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5 hours ago, Logic said:

There’s no way it has anything to do with signing with the Bills.

 

Beane and McDermott couldn’t get him out of the building fast enough in 2017.

 

It’s also completely illogical from a roster standpoint. He’s gonna sign for peanuts to be WR5? Absurd.

 

I know it’s a fun thing to discuss in an otherwise uneventful free agency period so far, but it ain’t happening. No way, no how.

 

We all know you're just trying to speak this out of existence because you think he's a turd.

 

If anything happens, I'm psychic. 

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8 hours ago, Logic said:

There’s no way it has anything to do with signing with the Bills.

 

Beane and McDermott couldn’t get him out of the building fast enough in 2017.

 

It’s also completely illogical from a roster standpoint. He’s gonna sign for peanuts to be WR5? Absurd.

 

I know it’s a fun thing to discuss in an otherwise uneventful free agency period so far, but it ain’t happening. No way, no how.

They got him out because they thought at the time that draft pick value was important so they could go get their QB of the future. And that's for the same reasons other players got traded that year.  Watkins was KC #2 WR behind maybe one of the best WR in the league.  He averages 2 games a season he is out... and you can count on that.. yet.. that's ok to count on when he is not your #1 or #2 WR.

 

He would compete with sanders for the other slot position. IF KC had our TE you think Mahomes would of thrown it to him 105 times last year? no.. more receptions would of gone between him Hardman and Robinson.

 

you guys quickly type in hard no like it was hard to say... For me he gives Sanders competition and that's good for a 3-4 mil prove it contract. And for that price this is an easy yes.

 

My opinion won't be popular but its mine. 

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36 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

They got him out because they thought at the time that draft pick value was important so they could go get their QB of the future. And that's for the same reasons other players got traded that year.  Watkins was KC #2 WR behind maybe one of the best WR in the league.  He averages 2 games a season he is out... and you can count on that.. yet.. that's ok to count on when he is not your #1 or #2 WR.

 

He would compete with sanders for the other slot position. IF KC had our TE you think Mahomes would of thrown it to him 105 times last year? no.. more receptions would of gone between him Hardman and Robinson.

 

you guys quickly type in hard no like it was hard to say... For me he gives Sanders competition and that's good for a 3-4 mil prove it contract. And for that price this is an easy yes.

 

My opinion won't be popular but its mine. 

Your opinion on why he may come back Ill leave alone because like you said its your opinion.  But he was traded out of here for more than the need for draft picks.  The guy wasnt a culture fit.  He has proven throughout his career that he is a me first guy.  To say he was only traded for the need of draft picks is a discredit to Mcdermott and his staff.  They watched the tape and saw he was a loafer who didnt play hard.  Its why his immense talent never translated to success.

 

Now for my opinion, he is an immature guy who only plays football for the money.  I dont think he loves it.  He falls in the category of should have been great but doesnt care enough to be.  He has essentially stole money from teams since he has been in the league.  He is such a non factor that I can barely recall where he was traded to.  I dont think the guy is long for the league.

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4 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Your opinion on why he may come back Ill leave alone because like you said its your opinion.  But he was traded out of here for more than the need for draft picks.  The guy wasnt a culture fit.  He has proven throughout his career that he is a me first guy.  To say he was only traded for the need of draft picks is a discredit to Mcdermott and his staff.  They watched the tape and saw he was a loafer who didnt play hard.  Its why his immense talent never translated to success.

 

Now for my opinion, he is an immature guy who only plays football for the money.  I dont think he loves it.  He falls in the category of should have been great but doesnt care enough to be.  He has essentially stole money from teams since he has been in the league.  He is such a non factor that I can barely recall where he was traded to.  I dont think the guy is long for the league.

I think my first bolded on this is also highly opinionated so I wont respond to that. Also there is no video to my recollection of him not finishing plays or routs. There was times he did not come back to the QB in need and heck.. that was well documented with even Brown last year.  Some would call making it to the NFL level a success because how many teams even now don't have a true #1 WR?  As to your opinion of him playing for money? I don't know where you get that or where it has ever been documented that he just plays for money.

 

We got a second round draft pick out of him that indeed helped us get Josh Allen. Was Darby a bad culture fit also? I don't think so? They get a 3rd round pick for Darby then they all the picks we got to trade for there people. They wanted an immediate detachment of what was built. They wanted a better QB and a QB for the defense. Without trading who we traded they could not do what they did and we would not have Josh Allen and Edmunds.

 

 

SO Bottom line.. Just answer this.. Would Sammy Watkins improve this WR roster? I doubt anyone can say no and as for any "Maturaty issues or Loafing as you put it? Pretty sure Diggs would put a stop to that in a hurry"  Just remember, when players don't do there job on the field by giving up on plays or taking plays off.. 

 

This is the same WR receiver that did this 

Exposed Sherman.

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