Cam About To Re-Sign With New England

[Billsatlastin2018]

GREAT!👍

 

That’ll cement getting those 6 Division Ws as the floor to 12/13 and the first or second rank in the Conference, playing at home in the Playoffs.

[Ghost_002!]

8 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Both of which are also more appealing bridge options than washed out Cam, imho. 

 

 

That is true, but that has nothing to do with the money. 8 million is pennies and doesn't hinder them getting another QB or any player the bills should not want them to get that is the point. And no team should want to see their backup QB. They were able to win 7 games with him, could of won a couple more so this isn't as bad as you want it to look like. 

 

8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Yeah but....(words I never thought I'd type)...$7 or $8M/yr is tip-top backup money.  

Fitz earned $8M ($4M guaranteed) from the Dolphins last season.

 

 

 

 

So? As i said to NoHuddleKelly12. 8 mill is pennies (especially with other teams paying more for their backups) and doesn't stop them from adding more players. This is less to do about nothing while the free agency period has not even started yet., plus the draft and people are jumping and acting like the season will begin next week. 

 

Edited March 12, 2021 by Ghost_002!

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

That is true, but that has nothing to do with the money. 8 million is pennies and doesn't hinder them getting another QB or any player the bills should not want them to get that is the point. And no team should want to see their backup QB. They were able to win 7 games with him, could of won a couple more so this isn't as bad as you want it to look like. 

 

 

So? As i said to NoHuddleKelly12. 8 mill is pennies (especially with other teams paying more for their backups) and doesn't stop them from adding more players. This is less to do about nothing while the free agency period has not even started yet., plus the draft and people are jumping and acting like the season will begin next week. 

 

OK Pats Fan.  I'm sure you're right about everything and this is Yet Another Manifestation of the roster management Brilliance of the Hoodie.

[Kwai San]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

They aren’t dumb enough to bring him back as the unquestioned starter 

 

Or are they?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Just now, Kwai San said:

 

Or are they?

 

4D chess.  Brilliant!

[Ghost_002!]

1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

OK Pats Fan.  I'm sure you're right about everything and this is Yet Another Manifestation of the roster management Brilliance of the Hoodie.

 

its really common sense if you actually thought about it. They got a backup. No more no less. 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

4D chess.  Brilliant!

Hap, respectfully, the Hoodie has successfully made you think that he's stopped at 4D chess. 

https://en.chessbase.com/post/what-on-earth-is-5d-chess

 

 

[ALLEN1QB]

It really must suck to be a patriot fan right now. I feel so sorry for them.....NOT!!!!!

[BuffaloBills1998]

So did they resign him because they couldn’t find any viable options in FA that would be better than Newton or is it because majority of FA QBS turned down the option to sign with them? I’m thinking more the latter

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, H2o said:

[JGMcD2]

26 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

its really common sense if you actually thought about it. They got a backup. No more no less. 

Except in the scenario he turns out to be their starter... then they get more... or in the scenario they cut him because he sucks... then they get less... 

 

And right now, at this moment in time, he’s their starter. 

Edited March 12, 2021 by JGMcD2

[Fan in Chicago]

23 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

its really common sense if you actually thought about it. They got a backup. No more no less. 

IMO, if you have to think real hard about something, it isnt common sense. 

Cam was quite terrible last year and paying that amount for a backup who cannot be relied on to win without an excellent team and coaching, just smells of desperation at best and bad roster management at worst. 

I understand that as a fan you want to feel good about it, but trust the guys on this board. We were on the other side for a decade and know how reality conflicts with fan dom. 

[DrDawkinstein]

7 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

So did they resign him because they couldn’t find any viable options in FA that would be better than Newton or is it because majority of FA QBS turned down the option to sign with them? I’m thinking more the latter

 

Free Agency doesnt start for 5 more days, so neither. Unless you are talking about guys who are already home on the couch.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

If I was NE, I would have Fitz on speed dial.

[ColoradoBills]

39 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

its really common sense if you actually thought about it. They got a backup. No more no less. 

 

Lets say you're right.  Who is going to be the starter?

A free agent or a rookie?  Do you have a couple of names?

[Ghost_002!]

2 hours ago, JGMcD2 said:

Except in the scenario he turns out to be their starter... then they get more... or in the scenario they cut him because he sucks... then they get less... 

 

And right now, at this moment in time, he’s their starter. 

 

Yup as of right Mar 12, 2021 he is their starter, teams do not officially start playing to September 9th so do with the info you have as you will.

 

 

2 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

[b]IMO, if you have to think real hard about something, it isnt common sense. [/b]

Cam was quite terrible last year and paying that amount for a backup who cannot be relied on to win without an excellent team and coaching, just smells of desperation at best and bad roster management at worst. 

I understand that as a fan you want to feel good about it, but trust the guys on this board. We were on the other side for a decade and know how reality conflicts with fan dom. 

 

 

 

So who is thinking hard about this? Cam was terrible last year, but won them 7 games. In a league where QBs are starting to get north of 40 mill. and as i said before there are backup getting paid more, I am trying to see where 8 mill is financially hindering and who said I wanted Cam back? I fully understand what this move means. But *shrug shoulders*

Edited March 12, 2021 by Ghost_002!

[H2o]

26 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

He (Cam) looks like a deranged Pilgrim

[KGun12TD]

Seems like "The Patriot Way" went to Tampa.

[MJS]

2 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

He is a bad option as a starter, but he’s a phenomenal backup option.

He would be a horrible backup option. That QB room would be super toxic.

[whatdrought]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I will confess that I went to that link to check it because I would have placed a small monetary bet that you'd been duped by a fake Adam Schefter account, which as we all know abound.

 

But that actually IS Adam Schefter so unless someone took over his account for multiple tweets, it's real.  $14M for an "option" though?

 

 

 

Sounds like it’s highly incentive based. still, too much for slow and running QB whose arm is shot.

[Stank_Nasty]

Clicked in here just to see how hard Biscuit would roll for Cam.... nailed it. 

[Ghost_002!]

21 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Lets say you're right.  Who is going to be the starter?

A free agent or a rookie?  Do you have a couple of names?

 

If they draft a QB, Cam plays a few games until the QB is ready. They are still eyeing the situation in SF. That's been their main goal all along. Besides maybe a D.Watson or a R.WIlson for obvious reason, they aren't interested in anything else out there for QB unless someone really shakes loose and becomes really cheap. (wishful thinking on their part)

 

 

I know Trey Lance or a that Jones kid from Alabama keeps being attached to the patriots but I have no clue if BB would trade up to get Lance and I also hear that getting Jones at 15 is too high for him, plus i would like to see a QB that could get out of the pocket if they have to. Jones isn't that type of QB. 

 

for me i would of been fine with a bridge QB for now, Mariota (but I am hearing the pats don't view him as a true leader), Jimmy G...to be honestly i just want to see a QB who could actually get the ball to a receiver at this point. So yes, having to watch Cam at any point this season is not what I am looking for. Also i would like Sam Darnold too, but I know damn well Jets won't trade him to NE.

 

 

Edited March 12, 2021 by Ghost_002!

[ColoradoBills]

6 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

If they draft a QB, Cam plays a few games until the QB is ready. They are still eyeing the situation in SF. That's been their main goal all along. Besides maybe a D.Watson or a R.WIlson for obvious reason, they aren't interested in anything else out there for QB unless someone really shakes loose and becomes really cheap. (wishful thinking on their part)

 

 

I know Trey Lance or a that Jones kid from Alabama keeps being attached to the patriots but I have no clue if BB would trade up to get Lance and I also hear that getting Jones at 15 is too high for him, plus i would like to see a QB that could get out of the pocket if they have to. Jones isn't that type of QB. 

 

for me i would of been fine with a bridge QB for now, Mariota (but I am hearing the pats don't view him as a true leader), Jimmy G...to be honestly i just want to see a QB who could actually get the ball to a receiver at this point. So yes, having to watch Cam at any point this season is not what I am looking for.

 

 

 

After the Cam news it seems to me that they intend to go to the draft for their starter.

[Rico]

1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said:

Taysom HIll and Marcus Maroita make way more than he does. 

I hope the Pats get Mariota too. The more elite competition, the better. 

[msw2112]

I don't have time to read a 6 page thread, but WTF?  This doesn't make sense to me on so many fronts.

[Nextmanup]

38 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

After the Cam news it seems to me that they intend to go to the draft for their starter.

All joking aside, yes, I think this is correct.

 

There is no way BB thinks Cam Newton is good enough to win.

 

Maybe other QB prospects didn't pan out and he realized he has to tank, get the #1 pick, and find a QB that way.

 

Hmmmm.  He could have just kept rolling along with Brady! 

 

He's losing it.

 

 

[dave mcbride]

56 minutes ago, MJS said:

He would be a horrible backup option. That QB room would be super toxic.

Why do you say that? Virtually every report about Cam this season in NE regarding his contribution to team chemistry was highly positive. He also presumably knows what rung he occupies in the great QB hierarchy now after multiple low-level one-year deals. 

[JPP]

2 hours ago, Ghost_002! said:

Plans to come back to this thread when it because obviously they are signing him as a backup and not the starter. 

Whatt???!  14 mill for a backup....nope

[dave mcbride]

Just now, JPP said:

Whatt???!  14 mill for a backup....nope

It's not $14 million. It's $8 million with a ton of incentives that he'll only meet if he starts and plays well.

[Rubes]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

It's not $14 million. It's $8 million with a ton of incentives that he'll only meet if he starts and plays well.

 

Right. Seems to me like they'll either draft a QB this year and Cam is the transition, or they stick with Cam and hope for a high draft pick next year.

 

[dave mcbride]

12 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

All joking aside, yes, I think this is correct.

 

There is no way BB thinks Cam Newton is good enough to win.

 

Maybe other QB prospects didn't pan out and he realized he has to tank, get the #1 pick, and find a QB that way.

 

Hmmmm.  He could have just kept rolling along with Brady! 

 

He's losing it.

 

 

There are a ton of rumors out there about Jimmy G heading back to NE. Garappolo is a good QB, but he has an undeniable injury history and Newton is a good backup option to have.  

3 minutes ago, Rubes said:

 

Right. Seems to me like they'll either draft a QB this year and Cam is the transition, or they stick with Cam and hope for a high draft pick next year.

 

I assume their starting qb is a) in the NFL now and b) not on the Patriots at present. Last year was their "down year"; this year can't be. They'll be in it to win it. They have a mountain of cap space, excellent returning opt-outs, and a lot of picks (9). I hate to say it, but they're the divisional opponent I worry about the most next season. 

Edited March 12, 2021 by dave mcbride

[DCofNC]

3 hours ago, whatdrought said:

l-o-l

 

they paid him 1 million last year and said: “yeah, we like that *****. Let’s do it for much more!”

It’s got to be a crazy incentive laden deal, no freaking way are they paying him that much after the garbage season he put up last year.  In ALL seriousness, I would take Tyrod first. I’d imagine it being something to the extent of a small signing bonus and non-guaranteed base with some simple bonuses of starts, yards, TDs etc.  If they cut him in camp, just the signing bonus fail.

[MJS]

8 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Why do you say that? Virtually every report about Cam this season in NE regarding his contribution to team chemistry was highly positive. He also presumably knows what rung he occupies in the great QB hierarchy now after multiple low-level one-year deals. 

He is a huge narcissist and I believe he would be a malcontent if relegated to backup duty.

 

If you feel differently, good for you.

[DCofNC]

47 minutes ago, Rico said:

I hope the Pats get Mariota too. The more elite competition, the better. 

I’d be way more concerned about Mariota than Cam.  

[YoloinOhio]

 

[C.Biscuit97]

1 hour ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Clicked in here just to see how hard Biscuit would roll for Cam.... nailed it. 

I mean I don’t know you are but thanks for noticing me. ☺️

17 minutes ago, MJS said:

He is a huge narcissist and I believe he would be a malcontent if relegated to backup duty.

 

If you feel differently, good for you.

Apparently, Belichick feels different. 

1 hour ago, MJS said:

He would be a horrible backup option. That QB room would be super toxic.

You keep posting this and he just played for the coach who takes no BS and got re-signed.  Maybe he’s not the toxic personality you think he is.  

[Logic]

Personally, I don't agree that Cam Newton is as "done" as many seem to think.

The Patriots offense as a whole last year was awful. It's hard to envision any QB succeeding with that supporting cast.

He had some real stinkers, to be sure, but he also had games where he posted QB ratings of 100.7, 114.3, 102.6, and 127.4. This tells me that he can still play. 

The last time he was reasonably healthy and had some weaponry around him, in 2018, he produced 28 total TDs and 13 INTs. Cam also stated how much havoc COVID wreaked on his mental faculties last year.

I don't mean to make excuses for Newton, but I think that if you surround him with a decent supporting cast, you can definitely win 10 or more games with him on a consistent basis. 

Edited March 12, 2021 by Logic

[Rico]

31 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

I’d be way more concerned about Mariota than Cam.  

Both are garbage, but at least Cam was good at one point.

[Ghost_002!]

23 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

☺️

 

You keep posting this and he just played for the coach who takes no BS and got re-signed.  Maybe he’s not the toxic personality you think he is.  

 

Cam has not been an issue personality wise in NE..I die laughing when someone tries to make this claim all the time.

 

The coach loves him, the players love him. He's been great with the media. The fans have no issue with him beside his play. He has been fine. The only problem is his play.

 

[DCofNC]

15 minutes ago, Rico said:

Both are garbage, but at least Cam was good at one point.

Mariota was a contributor to an anemic offense for sure, but he’s got all the skills to be really good in the right situation.  Biggest question is does he have the killer instinct?  I’d say, not presently.  That said, him vs this version of Cam? I’m taking Mariota.