GunnerBill Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: It doesn't matter. 49ers can offer 8 firsts. This is officially Watson's choice. He holds final say. He's going to Miami. Welcome to the NBANFL They can't actually. 3 years ahead is the furthest in advance you can trade picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, mannc said: Good point. It all depends on what they think of Tua. I’m not sure why the Texans would be excited to get him, but who knows? Going from Watson to Tua is like going from Josh Allen to Trent Edwards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 If Miami gets Watson you all better get ready for most of the media to proclaim Miami as the favorite in the AFC East over the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: They can't actually. 3 years ahead is the furthest in advance you can trade picks. I know this I'm just trying to make a point. He's going where he wants to go unless Houston tells him he can sit and pout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: Houston should not take Tua as part of the trade. They should only accept draft choices & draft a QB of their own choosing at 3. Agreed. I’d certainly want another piece unless the Texans are dumb enough to believe getting Tua back will appease their fanbase. To me, the only way you do this deal is to draft a new QB early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, TPS said: Miami certainly has the draft capital to do it. That they got from Houston in the first place. So are Miami and Houston just swapping back and forth? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I also don’t see Watson going to a cold weather team. I see him going NFC and warm weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Watch Houston be double stupid and trade him within the conference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I also don’t see Watson going to a cold weather team. I see him going NFC and warm weather. If I am advising Watson I request a deal to go to Carolina. NFC South: Brees retiring, Tom not far behind, Falcons rebuilding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said: If Miami gets Watson you all better get ready for most of the media to proclaim Miami as the favorite in the AFC East over the offseason. YUP. Thankfully our QB absolutely owns that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, SCBills said: YUP. Thankfully our QB absolutely owns that team. But if Miami get Watson that can change very very quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said: But if Miami get Watson that can change very very quickly Deshaun Watson doesn't play defense, but yes, of course those games become tougher. All the more reason why this offseason is massive. We've climbed the AFCE mountain and now need to stay there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) If I'm Houston I take Tua in the trade. Hire Chan Gailey as HC. Fitzy as OC. Edited January 28, 2021 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Atlanta is too cap restricted to make it work I think. And I am not sure he would go to Detroit but sure they could be interested. I agree. Atlanta & Detroit are just as much of a mess as Houston is. There is no real upside for Watson to go to them, at least not immediately. The NFC team that makes the most sense is San Francisco, they would be dominant with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Houston's dysfunctional ownership continues to screw up the league, and it disproportionately affects Buffalo. To recap: 1) Trades 2 #1st to Miami for Tunsil, giving the Dolphins a top-five pick; Tunsil wasn't extended in advance, giving players in a similar position additional negotiating leverage. 2) Trades Hopkins for peanuts; Hopkins single-handedly beats Buffalo in 2020 3) Hires David Culley instead of Leslie Frazier, giving extra draft capital to the best GM in football 4) Likely trades a top-five QB in his prime to the AFC East He’s not top 5 maybe top 10 but point taken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Miami is only the favorite because their coach just happens to be near the media this week. When I hear something like "Flores really wants Watson" I think well no s Sherlock, what coach in the NFL that doesnt have a top tier QB on their roster wouldnt? We will see how this plays out, but if I am Houston I want draft picks and someone I can start at QB next season. Miami has draft picks, and a QB who they didnt think enough of to let finish games he started. In my mind the Jets or 49ers are the favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 There is only 1 favorite. The team Watson wants to go to. That's it. And Houston is going to be forced to trade him in conference.....imagine if we had to do that with Allen? This is ridiculous. We aren't the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Now why would Jacksonville trade a promising LB for a QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, Big Blitz said: There is only 1 favorite. The team Watson wants to go to. That's it. And Houston is going to be forced to trade him in conference.....imagine if we had to do that with Allen? This is ridiculous. We aren't the NBA. Who is "we"? 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 36 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: They can't actually. 3 years ahead is the furthest in advance you can trade picks. Toss in Josh Rosen - he was a 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 hours ago, dave mcbride said: The Jets have the draft ammo, a tradeable young QB who still has promise, and the cap space. They make too much sense. If Darnold goes to Houston, his career is basically over, Houston’s owners are, dare I say, worse than the jets, that boy is screwed, he must have done something really bad in his last life... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 30 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said: If Miami gets Watson you all better get ready for most of the media to proclaim Miami as the favorite in the AFC East over the offseason. Well...they probably would be. Their defense was 10 slots better than ours, they led the league in TO, and with better QB'ing they could arguably win 2-3 more games. I get it we're the defending AFC East winners and went to the AFC championship, but the world would be waiting to see if we can be consistent with excellence. Now that said, a lot depends upon who they wind up with as OC. And OCs probably want to know...am I coaching Tua? Or Watson? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I would prefer he go to the NFC but it sounds like he prefers the Jets or Dolphins. He has the leverage of having a no trade clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Hey Houston...pssst...Washington needs a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 😆 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: He’s not top 5 maybe top 10 but point taken Watson is absolutely top 5 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I see four realistic possibilities. Jets, Dolphins, 49ers, Carolina. Redskins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Billzgobowlin said: Redskins? Ahhhh yes, so he could reunite with Mia Khalifa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: Redskins? Don't be a dick. You know that name is dead. It's not "cute" to be all "I'm not PC"... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 44 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well...they probably would be. Their defense was 10 slots better than ours, they led the league in TO, and with better QB'ing they could arguably win 2-3 more games. I get it we're the defending AFC East winners and went to the AFC championship, but the world would be waiting to see if we can be consistent with excellence. Now that said, a lot depends upon who they wind up with as OC. And OCs probably want to know...am I coaching Tua? Or Watson? Ken Dorsey, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 33 minutes ago, mannc said: Watson is absolutely top 5 right now. Disclaimer: I started this reply to prove you wrong, but as I list them, I'm changing my tune to possibly agree with you. 1. Mahomes 2. Rodgers 3. Allen 4. Wilson? 5. And not too many others I'd put up there. So yeah, I'll give Watson as a Top 5. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Ken Dorsey, maybe? That's been speculated, but Buffalo has been out of contention and Dorsey available for 4 days now, nothing known about them asking him to interview, and they haven't been secretive about ID'ing their candidates of interest so far. The Phins just hired a QB coach, Charlie Frye. They have identified running backs coach Eric Studesville and tight ends coach George Godsey internal candidates. The other candidate was said to be Chargers QB coach Pep Hamilton. I think it's possible that OC candidates want to know "who is my QB?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Disclaimer: I started this reply to prove you wrong, but as I list them, I'm changing my tune to possibly agree with you. 1. Mahomes 2. Rodgers 3. Allen 4. Wilson? 5. And not too many others I'd put up there. So yeah, I'll give Watson as a Top 5. If we're talking right now, maybe Brady? I think I'd actually put Watson ahead of Wilson, but that's just based on how poorly Wilson played the last half of this season. In terms of which QB you'd take over the next 10 years if you were starting from scratch, it's got to be Mahomes, Allen, then Watson, right? Too soon to tell with Herbert or Burrow... Edited January 28, 2021 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 43 minutes ago, mannc said: Watson is absolutely top 5 right now. Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Allen, Wilson....cant put Brady in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Allen, Wilson....cant put Brady in there I don't necessarily disagree, but if you look at Brady's numbers this year, and what he's done with a team that missed the playoffs last year, you can certainly make a case for him. Edited January 28, 2021 by mannc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenReceipts Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Max Kellerman: "Besides Patrick Mahomes, nobody has more trade value.....Deshaun Watson is better than Josh Allen" 4:40 Bills Mafia...we ain't about to let this slide, are we? Let them hear about it in the comment section. 6 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Allen, Wilson....cant put Brady in there I hope u didn't just rank Watson over Allen. For your sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, mannc said: If we're talking right now, maybe Brady? I think I'd actually put Watson ahead of Wilson, but that's just based on how poorly Wilson played the last half of this season. In terms of which QB you'd take over the next 10 years if you were starting from scratch, it's got to be Mahomes, Allen, then Watson, right? Too soon to tell with Herbert or Burrow... 7 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Allen, Wilson....cant put Brady in there 1 minute ago, mannc said: I don't necessarily disagree, but if you look at Brady's numbers this year, and what he's done with a team that missed the playoffs last year, you can certainly make a case for him. Right. The old guys make it a tougher list, but I'm not including them. Even Rodgers is getting up there. I did think about Burrow and Herbert, but left them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I see four realistic possibilities. Jets, Dolphins, 49ers, Carolina. Niners are interesting. They would be clear SB favourites on the NFC side for years to come. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenReceipts Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Boxcar said: Niners are interesting. They would be clear SB favourites on the NFC side for years to come. How so? Watson to the Niners is an awful fit. Kyle Shanahan is looking for an elite game manager type to operate his run-first scheme. Make quick reads, quick decisions, get rid of the ball quickly. That is the opposite of Watson's game. Watson is a freelancer who likes to hold onto the football and play out of structure, and look for the deep ball. Niners with Watson < Niners with Jimmy G. Jimmy G is a much much better fit for that scheme than Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Guess he wasn’t a fan of David Culley 😂 20 minutes ago, JoshAllenReceipts said: Max Kellerman: "Besides Patrick Mahomes, nobody has more trade value.....Deshaun Watson is better than Josh Allen" 4:40 Bills Mafia...we ain't about to let this slide, are we? Let them hear about it in the comment section. I hope u didn't just rank Watson over Allen. For your sake. I instantly discount anything Stephen A Smith says. He has the worst hot takes I’ve ever seen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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