ILBillsfan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Going to say I was most disappointed in Brown on Saturday and was really expecting him to be a bigger factor in the Game Saturday. Couple of plays that really could of had different outcomes the first was the play where he was open and the ball went right through his hands and up in the air that a lot of times end up as pick. And the second was very similar to the fourth down play last year in Baltimore where he needs to attack back inside. On the almost pick imo he did not again attack the ball towards the middle that let the CB get the inside position and the potential pick. Davis seemed to be the second option. Maybe it is still a little rust but I think to beat Baltimore you have to again get out ahead of them and neutralize the run game of Baltimore and make Jackson beat you with his arm and to optimize that need all receivers to really bring that A game and not see a repeat of what I seen from John Brown this last weekend. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Ill shoot him a text and let him know! 1 13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nato7412 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 He played a good game against Miami and looked healthy in it. I think he just had a bad day on Saturday for whatever reason. I expect a bounce back performance. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Davis was not the second option, he was the extend the play option when the pocket broke down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I think he is aware. Was a little surprising to see him drop a pass that hit him directly in the hands, or went through his hands. He is usually very reliable. Maybe it was due to him being out idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said: Going to say I was most disappointed in Brown on Saturday and was really expecting him to be a bigger factor in the Game Saturday. Couple of plays that really could of had different outcomes the first was the play where he was open and the ball went right through his hands and up in the air that a lot of times end up as pick. And the second was very similar to the fourth down play last year in Baltimore where he needs to attack back inside. On the almost pick imo he did not again attack the ball towards the middle that let the CB get the inside position and the potential pick. Davis seemed to be the second option. Maybe it is still a little rust but I think to beat Baltimore you have to again get out ahead of them and neutralize the run game of Baltimore and make Jackson beat you with his arm and to optimize that need all receivers to really bring that A game and not see a repeat of what I seen from John Brown this last weekend. Diggs and Brown both had uncharacteristic drops on perfect throws from Allen that hit them in the hands early in the game 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: Diggs and Brown both had uncharacteristic drops on perfect throws from Allen that hit them in the hands early in the game I will agree. Could be wrong but not sure I seen a pass in the second half to Brown and maybe i'm wrong. They have a good relationship and could of been just the other guys were hotter and you just keep feeding them. Just know what Brown does when he is involved as well. Josh completed passes toe 6 different players and when you get to the 7-8 players it really puts the D on its toes more and Brown is a big part of that equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Brown is probably just rusty and will be better this game. If Beasely and McKenzie are healthy we have more options than Baltimore can handle. Just think back to the Chiefs/Baltimore game. The chiefs came out swinging and destroyed them. We mimick that team now more than any other team. Come out guns a blazin and we’ll be fine. Enough if the afraid of the Ravens stuff. Respect, not afraid. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, machine gun kelly said: Brown is probably just rusty and will be better this game. If Beasely and McKenzie are healthy we have more options than Baltimore can handle. Just think back to the Chiefs/Baltimore game. The chiefs came out swinging and destroyed them. We mimick that team now more than any other team. Come out guns a blazin and we’ll be fine. Enough if the afraid of the Ravens stuff. Respect, not afraid. Oh I'm not afraid of Baltimore I respect them. If the Bills play their game I expect us to win. Will continue to take a team effort at this stage of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said: I will agree. Could be wrong but not sure I seen a pass in the second half to Brown and maybe i'm wrong. They have a good relationship and could of been just the other guys were hotter and you just keep feeding them. Just know what Brown does when he is involved as well. Josh completed passes toe 6 different players and when you get to the 7-8 players it really puts the D on its toes more and Brown is a big part of that equation. Brown will be huge against Ravens man coverage. His deep speed will force the DB to turn and run and those 15-20 yard comebacks on the sideline will be open all game long. Would REALLY like to see Stills in this game...his speed to threaten the defense deep could really cause issues for the Ravens on blitzes 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, Magox said: Davis was not the second option, he was the extend the play option when the pocket broke down. Which was surprising. Usually it’s diggs, Beasley, brown or even Knox ahead of Davis on the scramble drills. Couldn’t have been happier though. The kid is showing out 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Brown will be huge against Ravens man coverage. His deep speed will force the DB to turn and run and those 15-20 yard comebacks on the sideline will be open all game long. Would REALLY like to see Stills in this game...his speed to threaten the defense deep could really cause issues for the Ravens on blitzes Stills is interesting. I know I've heard that a lot of the offense should be familiar to him on the route options so the learning curve would be less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 "John Brown need you to step up going forward" 🙄 .....or else? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 That defense was playing very well, and they were absolutely fixated on stopping the long ball. The first ball was a drop, and it was his fault. The second was just good defense and the Colts playing deep. IMO he's going to be in a much more favorable situation the next couple of weeks. I'm not worried. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Brown will be huge against Ravens man coverage. His deep speed will force the DB to turn and run and those 15-20 yard comebacks on the sideline will be open all game long. Would REALLY like to see Stills in this game...his speed to threaten the defense deep could really cause issues for the Ravens on blitzes I agree, if the WR group is as banged up as they looked last week, put Stills out there even if it’s just to run deep and drag defenders away. You will have to take a shot to him to make them respect it, but I definitely want to see him out there. With him running deep, Diggs and Brown will have more mid range freedom and hopefully that allows them to move the ball better. At bare minimum, McKenzie needs to get back out there or if he can’t, use Stills in his role, speed kills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I still think he is nursing a longterm injury. After plays, he seems to hobble around going back to the huddle and sideline. Maybe not enough to keep him out of the game, but it wouldnt surprise me if he ends up having surgery in the offseason for a random leg issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Captain_Quint said: I still think he is nursing a longterm injury. After plays, he seems to hobble around going back to the huddle and sideline. Maybe not enough to keep him out of the game, but it wouldnt surprise me if he ends up having surgery in the offseason for a random leg issue. I'd bet meniscus tear. It hurts but he can still do everything and won't really make it worse, will still need to get repaired in the offseason tho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Rust and Starting Field Position contributed to the quiet day. Ravens secondary will be a good matchup for him. There is a reason Marlon Humphrey is the 2nd most targeted CB in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Wonder if JB will have any extra motivation vs Ravens as they signed him in 2018 then underutilized him? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Maybe the 6700 Bills fans going to the game can start up a “Smoke” chant to pump him up prior to kickoff? He’s going to be a crucial cog in the Bills winning this game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 We need everyone to step up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 36 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said: Going to say I was most disappointed in Brown on Saturday and was really expecting him to be a bigger factor in the Game Saturday. Couple of plays that really could of had different outcomes the first was the play where he was open and the ball went right through his hands and up in the air that a lot of times end up as pick. And the second was very similar to the fourth down play last year in Baltimore where he needs to attack back inside. On the almost pick imo he did not again attack the ball towards the middle that let the CB get the inside position and the potential pick. Davis seemed to be the second option. Maybe it is still a little rust but I think to beat Baltimore you have to again get out ahead of them and neutralize the run game of Baltimore and make Jackson beat you with his arm and to optimize that need all receivers to really bring that A game and not see a repeat of what I seen from John Brown this last weekend. I think he was still knocking off a little rust. He should be fine 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Refs swallowed the whistles and I’m wondering if Brown was getting blown up in press coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frat-Train Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Does this constitute a “dear john” letter? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 44 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said: Going to say I was most disappointed in Brown on Saturday and was really expecting him to be a bigger factor in the Game Saturday. Couple of plays that really could of had different outcomes the first was the play where he was open and the ball went right through his hands and up in the air that a lot of times end up as pick. And the second was very similar to the fourth down play last year in Baltimore where he needs to attack back inside. On the almost pick imo he did not again attack the ball towards the middle that let the CB get the inside position and the potential pick. Davis seemed to be the second option. Maybe it is still a little rust but I think to beat Baltimore you have to again get out ahead of them and neutralize the run game of Baltimore and make Jackson beat you with his arm and to optimize that need all receivers to really bring that A game and not see a repeat of what I seen from John Brown this last weekend. He looked like he wasn't 100 % ... Maybe another week and he'll be closer to 100% 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: He looked like he wasn't 100 % ... Maybe another week and he'll be closer to 100% Yeah on the pass in the end zone and even last week on the TD there still seemed to be a bit of favoring on that ankle/knee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Did McKenzie even step on The field? I’m not sure he hasn’t earned some touches the way he’s played all year. His quickness is an asset and that jet motion causes problems for the defense. As for Brown, he was never open the last time the bills played the Ravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Did McKenzie even step on The field? I’m not sure he hasn’t earned some touches the way he’s played all year. His quickness is an asset and that jet motion causes problems for the defense. As for Brown, he was never open the last time the bills played the Ravens. From what I read ... He was also hobbled with his injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: Refs swallowed the whistles and I’m wondering if Brown was getting blown up in press coverage. that would explain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I actually didn't think he looked 100% against the dolphins - seemed to favor and limp a good bit Even after the touchdown he scored he didn't seem to be his usual jubilant self. Seemed more like just let me get to the bench to rest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Did McKenzie even step on The field? I’m not sure he hasn’t earned some touches the way he’s played all year. His quickness is an asset and that jet motion causes problems for the defense. As for Brown, he was never open the last time the bills played the Ravens. Thought I read only 2 plays was McKenzie on the field was strange to see his numbers that low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Smoke had a poor game and needs to do better this time around. If the Ravens are going man to man they will eventually try to flex towards Diggs (because he will be burning them). And when they do, Smoke needs to make the most of his limited targets and make the Ravens pay. On the positive side G Davis played above expectations. He may have earned himself some more targets. I was a little down on him before but he redeemed himself in a big way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said: Thought I read only 2 plays was McKenzie on the field was strange to see his numbers that low They were more in line with what they were earlier in the season. Before yesterday, we hadn't had our full complement of receivers since Week 10. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Did McKenzie even step on The field? I’m not sure he hasn’t earned some touches the way he’s played all year. His quickness is an asset and that jet motion causes problems for the defense. As for Brown, he was never open the last time the bills played the Ravens. He was the #1 WR they most likely doubled him alot. I don't think they can double him this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Brown will be gone next year.. Gabe Davis is in the process of being a 1,000 yard receiver.. Not as fast as Brown, but still fast and more size.. Gabe Davis will be a very good receiver in this league.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Starr Almighty said: He was the #1 WR they most likely doubled him alot. I don't think they can double him this time I recall that They played man almost exclusively And blitzed a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Really not sure how healthy he is. Once he is going in a straight line he looks okay but he doesn't appear to me to have full fluidity in his movements - I think you can see that on the near INT in the endzone where he struggles to adjust to the throw Josh attempts to squeeze in. Might be wrong but I don't think he is anywhere close to 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 37 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: We need everyone to step up. If Baltimore plays as they did yesterday, and we play (as a unit) as we did against Indy, we lose. Gotta step up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 26 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Did McKenzie even step on The field? I’m not sure he hasn’t earned some touches the way he’s played all year. His quickness is an asset and that jet motion causes problems for the defense. As for Brown, he was never open the last time the bills played the Ravens. We also didn't have Diggs that year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: If Baltimore plays as they did yesterday, and we play (as a unit) as we did against Indy, we lose. Gotta step up! Neither will happen. Each game is different. Also credit the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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