ProcessTruster Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) Good $ move by Marrone at the time. So smart of him to put that clause in his contract. He knew Ralph was on the way out and protected himself. And sure enough got caught smack in the middle of an owner transition where he was unlikely to be kept, as Pegs would likely get their own front office and coaching staff. Smart guy/smart agent . I thought it was brilliant career management at the time and still do. And he dropped into a really good HC situation in Jax and had a good year there until Bortles turned out to suck and Tom Coughlin the dictator a-hole drove all the good players get away. As Bills fan know oh so well, without a franchise QB in todays NFL, you are just spinning your whells. So say want you want, but the guy went 9-7 with the Bills, Pegs said no, then he had Jax in the AFC title game, so there's that. Edited January 1, 2021 by ProcessTruster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 obviously “For me, obviously, the past is the past,” It's obviously the last game of a disappointing year. It's a start of a new year. “I look at the games obviously differently,” "Make no mistake about it, I don't want anything coming out wrong, obviously we're very disappointed in where we are.” "We're going to rest him and be cautious with him," Marrone said. "But obviously, he obviously feels like he will play and wants to play." obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 40 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: Good $ move by Marrone at the time. So smart of him to put that clause in his contract. He knew Ralph was probably on the way out and protected himself from what might happen with a new owner. And sure enough got caught smack in the middle of an owner transition where he was unlikely to be kept, as Pegs would likely get their own front office and coaching staff. Smart guy/smart agent . I thought it was brilliant career management at the time and still do. And he dropped into a decent HC situation / good roster in Jax and had a good year there until Bortles turned out to suck and Tom Coughlin the dictator a-hole drove all the good players get away. As Bills fan know oh so well, without a franchise QB in todays NFL, you are just spinning your whells. So say want you want, but the guy went 9-7 with the Bills, Pegs was going to toss him, he opted out of a dead end situation, then he had Jax in the AFC title game, so there's that. Just really not sure its on Marrone for his departure. He just protected himself when in a bad timing spot with the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I thought the only thing that improved while Duggie was here was the O-Line. We should probably be donating to his charity because the best thing he did while being here was quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 14 hours ago, Bangarang said: I remember being thrilled Same here, never thought he was worth a crap and he proved it in Jax. He and his cronies ran that team into the ground, good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 58 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: Good $ move by Marrone at the time. So smart of him to put that clause in his contract. He knew Ralph was on the way out and protected himself. And sure enough got caught smack in the middle of an owner transition where he was unlikely to be kept, as Pegs would likely get their own front office and coaching staff. Smart guy/smart agent . I thought it was brilliant career management at the time and still do. And he dropped into a really good HC situation in Jax and had a good year there until Bortles turned out to suck and Tom Coughlin the dictator a-hole drove all the good players get away. As Bills fan know oh so well, without a franchise QB in todays NFL, you are just spinning your whells. So say want you want, but the guy went 9-7 with the Bills, Pegs said no, then he had Jax in the AFC title game, so there's that. He did make a good move for himself at the time. I didn’t blame him and was happy he left. The problem, he is a giant leader of cronies and took all the bad hires with him and got Coughlin running the team. He had a loaded roster and unofficially (the officials took it away) won the AFC Championship. Once he didn’t have top line talent, he and Bortles both crumbled. PS I still want Bortles as our back up, foolish that we kept Barkley and let him sit on a practice squad all year. His game is so close to Allen’s, it’s a way better fit at back up. Obviously, he’s not in the same universe as Josh’s level of success, but he’s still better than Barkley and I would feel pretty confident in his ability to keep the O going in the event Josh was out. He did pretty well when surrounded with a lot of talent, but he’s not good enough to carry a team that has none. There’s talent here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, ProcessTruster said: Good $ move by Marrone at the time. So smart of him to put that clause in his contract. He knew Ralph was on the way out and protected himself. And sure enough got caught smack in the middle of an owner transition where he was unlikely to be kept, as Pegs would likely get their own front office and coaching staff. Smart guy/smart agent . I thought it was brilliant career management at the time and still do. And he dropped into a really good HC situation in Jax and had a good year there until Bortles turned out to suck and Tom Coughlin the dictator a-hole drove all the good players get away. As Bills fan know oh so well, without a franchise QB in todays NFL, you are just spinning your whells. So say want you want, but the guy went 9-7 with the Bills, Pegs said no, then he had Jax in the AFC title game, so there's that. I suppose, but then again you could say Adolph Hitler ran a crack organization until the wheels came off it. It doesn't mean we have to like him either. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 What a marrone. Look at this trio of egos: Greggggggg marrone Rex Apparently someone in the Bills front office was a fan of egotistical asswholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Obviously it worked out for the best! 😝 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: How'd that work out for you, Dougie? He has more playoff wins than McD. Made more money too. 44 minutes ago, Beerball said: What a marrone. Look at this trio of egos: Greggggggg marrone Rex Apparently someone in the Bills front office was a fan of egotistical asswholes. Missing Doug “the leak” Whaley. Edited January 1, 2021 by FireChans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 11 hours ago, stuvian said: I'm glad we have McDermott. Let's not forget that Marrone took a Jags team led by the immortal Blake Bortles to the AFC title game and nearly won Well, Rex took the Jets to the AFCCG twice...with Mark "Butt Fumble" Sanchez, so... 11 hours ago, Gugny said: When he was hired, I remember thinking, "this guy won the ***** Pinstripe Bowl!!! We got ourselves a real HC!!!" Turned out that wasn't really the best litmus test. In seriousness, Marrone was hired into just about the biggest dumpster fire in the NFL. Inept ownership. Inept front office. Was he great? No. But when he left, the Bills had a winning record and a top defense. I never blamed him for bailing with all of the uncertainty. I think he did the best job he could being the head coach of a horribly managed team. 10 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I mean...true. I just ask myself: would McDermott walk out on this team? Can I ever envision him doing something like that? I honestly don't, and we are much better off for it. Nope. Marrone quit. There's no honor in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Doc said: Well, Rex took the Jets to the AFCCG twice...with Mark "Butt Fumble" Sanchez, so... Nope. Marrone quit. There's no honor in that. He didn't quit. There was an out in his mutually agreed upon contract and he took it. That's not quitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, Gugny said: He didn't quit. There was an out in his mutually agreed upon contract and he took it. That's not quitting. Yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, Doc said: Yes it is. I guess we interpret contract verbiage differently. That's okay. Could be worse. Happy New Year, Doc! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Claude Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: Good $ move by Marrone at the time. So smart of him to put that clause in his contract. He knew Ralph was on the way out and protected himself. And sure enough got caught smack in the middle of an owner transition where he was unlikely to be kept, as Pegs would likely get their own front office and coaching staff. Smart guy/smart agent . I thought it was brilliant career management at the time and still do. And he dropped into a really good HC situation in Jax and had a good year there until Bortles turned out to suck and Tom Coughlin the dictator a-hole drove all the good players get away. As Bills fan know oh so well, without a franchise QB in todays NFL, you are just spinning your whells. So say want you want, but the guy went 9-7 with the Bills, Pegs said no, then he had Jax in the AFC title game, so there's that. I don't agree with that. The story at the time was that Pegula offered him an extension and based on how long the Pegulas kept Lindy Ruff Darcy Regier (and later, Doug Whaley), there was no reason to expect the Pegulas to clean house. I assume one of the reasons he didn't get hired by the Jets as he seem to expect was his quitting on the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Gugny said: I guess we interpret contract verbiage differently. That's okay. Could be worse. Happy New Year, Doc! No, I understand what you're saying Gug. But no one forced him to opt-out. And Happy New Year to you as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I really couldn't stand him. He is right at the top of my list of the coaches I hated the most during his time here if not right at #1. To recap: -He was unbelievably arrogant for a guy who hadn't accomplished squat as an NFL coach. Stories backed that up as none of the players liked him. -He was a phony. He grew up outside of the NYC area but remember when he was hired he tried claiming having a background as a WNYer -Which is pretty funny because at the same time he seemed like he felt like he was too good for Buffalo...remember the whole St. Doug thing? -The way he quit on us at the end showed his true character even though it was a blessing for us -It always bugged me that a decent amount of Bills fans saw him as a good coach because he got us to 9-7. I get it because fans are going to always try to look at their team with the most optimism possible but it goes to show you how low the standard was here after the Jauron and Gailey years that people were actually excited about where we were under Marrone I know we still had to suffer through the Rex Ryan clown show for 2 more years after Marrone but I'm so thankful we have a coach like McD now who is everything I always dreamed of wanting to have in a head coach in Buffalo during the drought years. It's so true when they say a football team takes on the character of it's head coach and McDermott is a leader of men. Complete opposite of a guy like Marrone the Phony in every way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Totally happy to be where we are now but I would have much rather had Marrone stick around than watch the Rex Ryan clown show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 18 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t know if it seems like longer or like it was yesterday. It seems like a different world. Blessing in disguise! Afterwards, the Pegula’s listened to Russ Brandon, hired Rex Ryan, then realized they made a mistake. Next time around, they did their due diligence, knew who to listen to, as well as not listen to [Russ Brandon] and hired the best Bills HC in decades [McDermott]. Thanks again Doug for quitting on us and putting the Bills on the right path! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, bmur66 said: Totally happy to be where we are now but I would have much rather had Marrone stick around than watch the Rex Ryan clown show not after seeing how he did in Jacksonville. Much less how the bills are doing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 20 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t know if it seems like longer or like it was yesterday. It seems like a different world. Kinda makes you question his judgment. Doug didn’t realize he was gonna be working for the best owners in the NFL. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 6 years and 2 days before he’s out of a job again. (Betting speculation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: 6 years and 2 days before he’s out of a job again. (Betting speculation) The funniest part is he'd have gotten his chance to get a real QB. Karma. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Gugny said: He didn't quit. There was an out in his mutually agreed upon contract and he took it. That's not quitting. He quit on his players. He quit on 90% of his staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 22 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: He quit on his players. He quit on 90% of his staff. Low level business acumen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GymShorts84 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 12 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Actually with the golden parachute Marroon got, I think he should be sending the Pegulas a really nice fruit basket every Christmas. He got a nice check, but if he stayed and was successful, he would have got an extension. The real money is made by being a coach for a decade plus. His next job will not be an NFL head coach and he will forever have the “re-tread” label moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, GymShorts84 said: He got a nice check, but if he stayed and was successful, he would have got an extension. The real money is made by being a coach for a decade plus. His next job will not be an NFL head coach and he will forever have the “re-tread” label moving forward. Hard to be successful with Doug “Pornhub” Whaley as your GM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 6 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: He quit on his players. He quit on 90% of his staff. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 10 hours ago, bmur66 said: Totally happy to be where we are now but I would have much rather had Marrone stick around than watch the Rex Ryan clown show They were both awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Im not going to lie. I actually thought he was a good coach. Glad he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 7 hours ago, GymShorts84 said: He got a nice check, but if he stayed and was successful, he would have got an extension. The real money is made by being a coach for a decade plus. His next job will not be an NFL head coach and he will forever have the “re-tread” label moving forward. Some desperate SEC or Big 12 school will over pay for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Like it or not Marrone is a solid coach. He was a play away from taking the Jags to the Super Bowl with freakin Bortles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 I was happy he decided to quit, he stunk, I never liked that hire or the process the Bills took in interviewing. We were promised a “no stone unturned” search, and what we got was 5-days in Arizona from Bills brass interviewing: Whisenhunt (fired), Lovie Smith (fired), Mike McCoy, Chip Kelly (courtesy interview) and Doug Marrone. He was trumpeted as a fellow New Yorker (Bronx vs Buffalo) and instead punted from the Pittsburgh 36-yard line down by 2-scores in the 4th quarter with a 3-5 record. Obsessed with punting and playing field position. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 7 hours ago, bills6969 said: Like it or not Marrone is a solid coach. He was a play away from taking the Jags to the Super Bowl with freakin Bortles. That's because that defense was stacked. Then it fell apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Did we ever get a legitimate reason why he opted out? Was it just for the money or did he have issues with the front office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Steptide said: Did we ever get a legitimate reason why he opted out? Was it just for the money or did he have issues with the front office? pretty sure he had a contentious relationship with Whaley. Can’t really blame him for that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Doc said: That's because that defense was stacked. Then it fell apart. His team almost made the Super Bowl because it had a good defense? Is that supposed to discredit him as a coach? I wonder how Marrone would be viewed if the Andy Dalton miracle had happened in 2014 and his 9-7 Bills squad snuck into the playoffs to end the drought instead of Mcdermott's 9-7 Bills team in 2017. St. Doug is still a punk for quitting on the Bills like he did, but people in this thread going on and on about him being a terrible coach are just wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: His team almost made the Super Bowl because it had a good defense? Is that supposed to discredit him as a coach? I wonder how Marrone would be viewed if the Andy Dalton miracle had happened in 2014 and his 9-7 Bills squad snuck into the playoffs to end the drought instead of Mcdermott's 9-7 Bills team in 2017. St. Doug is still a punk for quitting on the Bills like he did, but people in this thread going on and on about him being a terrible coach are just wrong. Well, since he's an offensive coach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 On 12/31/2020 at 5:33 PM, YoloinOhio said: I was disappointed - I didn’t like him, but we went 9-7 and I was like why the eff is he quitting Same with me, but I was on the fence about Marrone. There was a narrative in the media that his game management and conservative nature was killing the team. Looking back it’s hard to dispute that. Still a winning record at 9-7, even though it meant losing to a 2-12 Raider team that killed their chance at the playoffs, seemed like a huge accomplishment. I thought we had traded up when they hired Rex a few days later🙄🙄🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 20 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Kinda makes you question his judgment. Doug didn’t realize he was gonna be working for the best owners in the NFL. 😎 22 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: His team almost made the Super Bowl because it had a good defense? Is that supposed to discredit him as a coach? I wonder how Marrone would be viewed if the Andy Dalton miracle had happened in 2014 and his 9-7 Bills squad snuck into the playoffs to end the drought instead of Mcdermott's 9-7 Bills team in 2017. St. Doug is still a punk for quitting on the Bills like he did, but people in this thread going on and on about him being a terrible coach are just wrong. He wasn’t a terrible coach and was easily the best coach of The Drought (not saying much). I’d say he was pretty mediocre. The biggest thing that continues to plague his success is his conservative nature. We saw this in Buffalo when he elected to punt close to FG range. You can argue he cost JAX a super bowl appearance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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