dbfla10 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Any one else worried that a team like Baltimore or the Browns will just run all over the Bills D and keep the ball out of Allens hands. Much like what Parcells did in super bowl 25? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 No. Not worried about anything. Other teams should be worried about us. GO BILLS! 13 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollaBills Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Run Defense wont matter when the bills are up several TD's. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Yes. The one team I have zero interest in seeing the Bills play in the playoffs is the Ravens. They play exactly the kind of game that the Bills Defensive Line has had tremendous problems stopping. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I think we should be concerned, not worried. Balt is hot and playing well, but no team is playing like the bills!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iverwig Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 No, the run defense is not dominant but it’s not as bad as it was earlier in the season. Edmunds is a problem but I feel better having Milano back and Klein stepping up his game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 time to be nervous about everything! 1 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, teef said: time to be nervous about everything! Most definitely. Not a cakewalk, amirite? 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, teef said: time to be nervous about everything! Ahhhh, the very heart of playoff football. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 If we just stop them every other possession, we win by 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said: Yes. The one team I have zero interest in seeing the Bills play in the playoffs is the Ravens. They play exactly the kind of game that the Bills Defensive Line has had tremendous problems stopping. Frazier / Mc D came up with a scheme last year that held them to 188 yds on 33 carries or 3.6 YPC. Believe they could do same again 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 My mind immediately went there early in the game, but I have faith that our Defense will be stout enough against the run to keep teams in check. That doesn't mean there won't be a couple runs where we give up yardage, or even a couple drives where they get rolling and our defense is on it's heels, but overall we have too much talent and are too well coached for me to worry about a team beating us because we just cannot stop their run game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) If the Bils didn't give up that one long run at the beginning of the game last night this wouldn't even be a thread. Edited December 29, 2020 by Beast 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 The Bills' run defense completely sucking is a tired narrative that needs to be put to bed. They are not top tier by any stretch but they are much better than some people are saying now that they are healthier again. The picture that is being painted is just as lazy as the Josh is inaccurate one that people like Nick Wright keeps blabbing on about. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 The Bills: *Holds the opposing QB to 33 yards passing* Bills Fans: Oh no, what if we cant stop the run?!? The Bills: 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 The OP has a decent point in that this is likely how playoff teams are going to try to attack us. It's not rocket science, and even our weaker opponents this year have tried to utilize this strategy. But can they stick with it for 60 minutes if we're putting up 30+ pts? I have confidence that schematically we'll prepare and adjust to teams that try to run against us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Bills attitude. 2 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, mushypeaches said: The OP has a decent point in that this is likely how playoff teams are going to try to attack us. It's not rocket science, and even our weaker opponents this year have tried to utilize this strategy. But can they stick with it for 60 minutes if we're putting up 30+ pts? I have confidence that schematically we'll prepare and adjust to teams that try to run against us Everyone said that the 49ers were going to show us up by running all over us. Didn't quite work out that way The D is good enough and improving especially as the O scores TDs and owns TOP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I kind of understand the concern against a team like the Ravens but I also don’t understand it at all. That team is playing well but is VERY beatable. They were talking about it during the pregame show that while Baltimore has looked impressive lately, they have not beaten any quality teams. Will they try to run the ball if they play the Bills, absolutely they will... it they better plan on scoring every time they have the ball because if they don’t the Bills will handle them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Not going to lie. I’ve always been a worry wart but our Run D scares me. Derrick Henry scares me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 54 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Frazier / Mc D came up with a scheme last year that held them to 188 yds on 33 carries or 3.6 YPC. Believe they could do same again even when the Bills D was playing like trash earlier in the year, they have been able to scheme teams to take away their 1 strength. They did it against KC (stopping passing game) and Tenn (stopping Henry). if we have to play Baltimore— which i dread of any team— I think bills will come up with a way to really limit the run game. The key will be containing Lamar scrambling when he is back throwing and Andrews over the middle in the pass game, and making sure we can score points on O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Not worried. Our defense was designed to stop the pass. And now that our offense is humming I am not concerned with teams running the ball on us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanThru-N-Thru Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I don't have a problem with the run D, this issue is usually 1 or 2 bad runs given up in the last 5 or 6 games that skew the stats. Last night it was a 29 yd run by Sony Michel and a 28 yd run by JJ Taylor. If you turn those 57yds into what should have been a 5-6 yd gain at most then the Pats would've had about a 100 yds. If they can eliminate those bad plays they should be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Bills are going to sign this guy for the playoff run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, Jester said: Not going to lie. I’ve always been a worry wart but our Run D scares me. Derrick Henry scares me. I agree King Henry is dangerous but it's interesting that he didn't do great in Green Bay with the weather but it could be the Titans fell behind early. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanThru-N-Thru Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: I agree King Henry is dangerous but it's interesting that he didn't do great in Green Bay with the weather but it could be the Titans fell behind early. Heck with Green Bay, the Bills kept Henry in check in the game we lost.. He only had 57 yds on 19 carries. The turnovers killed us in that game. If they keep playing like they are now I'm not concerned. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said: Yes. The one team I have zero interest in seeing the Bills play in the playoffs is the Ravens. They play exactly the kind of game that the Bills Defensive Line has had tremendous problems stopping. But they did stop them to a large extent. Last year the Bills defense wilted under Lamars three passing TDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Just now, BillsFanThru-N-Thru said: Heck with Green Bay, the Bills kept Henry in check in the game we lost.. He only had 57 yds on 19 carries. The turnovers killed us in that game. If they keep playing like they are now I'm not concerned. Being jerked around with scheduling all week. Josh injured and in a shoulder brace. Bad turnovers right out of the gate. No Tre White. The rematch wont be like the first game at all. Just now, ganesh said: But they did stop them to a large extent. Last year the Bills defense wilted under Lamars three passing TDs We were still in it on the last play when John Brown got out-muscled for a ball. That wont happen this year with Diggs and Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Most of the AFC playoff teams have a better running attack than Buffalo. Baltimore, Cleveland, KC, Tenn... but hey, i recall when the Bills led the league in rushing for 2 straight seasons and didn't make the playoffs! I'd rather have an offense that can break off some chunk plays and score at any moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I think hard running and play action teams like Tennessee and Cleveland are tougher match ups for Buffalo than some of the other possible opponents, sure. But worried about run D? In 2020? Nope. A team beating us by running has to play almost the perfect game in 2020. The Giants didn't just run in that Superbowl... they manhandled the Bills receivers in a way that would produce a flag fest in 2020. Listen if a team can run for 150, suck up 40 minutes of time of possession, play a perfect bend not break defense that forces Buffalo to kick field goals on their drives, shorten the game and squeak out a win they will deserve to beat us and that is the NFL the talent gap is close enough that a "good" team playing a perfect game can beat a better team. But I am not going to sit here worrying about it. At the moment I am not worried about us playing anyone. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 WE ARE THE ONES WHO KNOCK 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 No. This team is on a mission. https://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/35420/buffalo-bills-defense-getting-healthy-hitting-stride-at-right-time “But the group is rounding into form at a good time this late in the season, holding the Pittsburgh Steelers to 224 total yards and 15 points during Buffalo's win in Week 14. Since Week 9, the Bills own the sixth-best run defense in the NFL and the second-best third-down defense.” 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 28 minutes ago, Jester said: Not going to lie. I’ve always been a worry wart but our Run D scares me. Derrick Henry scares me. Derrick Henry got his fewest yards of the year against us when Edmunds was hurt and Milano was out. I wouldn't hold up that disastrous game as a template for good defense, but it was actually Tannehill who destroyed us in that game. When we beat them last year, Henry only had 78 yards. Just saying Bills have actually stopped some good runners this year (and been brutalized by some meh running games). Given that we're 12-3 and the two bad losses were against 10-win teams when we could never focus on either team and one of the teams had 16{?!} days rest, I'm gonna say our coaches are probably doing the right thing. Henry could hang 200 on us (he's been doing that a lot), but, again, he's been doing that a lot. Our Run D worries are overblown. It's not been a strength this year, but our team has been having a season for the ages, so maybe Frazier and McD and our inexplicable whipping boy defensive captain Edmunds know what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, TroutDog said: No. This team is on a mission. https://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/35420/buffalo-bills-defense-getting-healthy-hitting-stride-at-right-time “But the group is rounding into form at a good time this late in the season, holding the Pittsburgh Steelers to 224 total yards and 15 points during Buffalo's win in Week 14. Since Week 9, the Bills own the sixth-best run defense in the NFL and the second-best third-down defense.” it matters who they played since week 9....... arizona made this D look dumb against run. titans / kc same. its a good run team w a QB that can run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, balln said: it matters who they played since week 9....... arizona made this D look dumb against run. titans / kc same. its a good run team w a QB that can run Run Forest run 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 hours ago, freddyjj said: Frazier / Mc D came up with a scheme last year that held them to 188 yds on 33 carries or 3.6 YPC. Believe they could do same again And the Bills still lost that game. It’s not just about the yards. It’s the types of runs, and the timing of them. We saw what the RPO did to the Bills in the Cardinals game. How many times in that game and last years Ravens game did we see Jackson keep the ball and get a chunk? Or extending a drive on 3rd and medium on a run up the gut? The Bills need to scheme to stop the run, and that can be deadly against RPO heavy offenses. Id much rather Indy or Cleveland, than the Ravens and Jackson. Even though those teams run the ball well, their QB’s are not as an immediate or a threat like Baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 28 minutes ago, balln said: it matters who they played since week 9....... arizona made this D look dumb against run. titans / kc same. its a good run team w a QB that can run Any given Sunday. Teams have bad days and good days, our two best linebackers have been hurt much of the season and we have WON every game in that period, many against good teams, save for that fluky game we lost in the last seconds. We could play the Dolphins in Wild Card Weekend and get gashed or play the Ravens and hold Lamar to 100 yards total. 2 minutes ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said: And the Bills still lost that game. It’s not just about the yards. It’s the types of runs, and the timing of them. We saw what the RPO did to the Bills in the Cardinals game. How many times in that game and last years Ravens game did we see Jackson keep the ball and get a chunk? Or extending a drive on 3rd and medium on a run up the gut? The Bills need to scheme to stop the run, and that can be deadly against RPO heavy offenses. Id much rather Indy or Cleveland, than the Ravens and Jackson. Even though those teams run the ball well, their QB’s are not as an immediate or a threat like Baltimore. And we've won 12 out of our 15 games this year and their losses have had many extenuating circumstances if that's your logic. They've stopped good rushers (see Josh Jacobs, Henry) and had problems against others. I'd say I can't believe the level of anxiety over a 12-3 team that has dominated five games in a row going into the playoffs (we ARE that team right now), but I've been alive long enough to know that it was like this in the 1990s too. And Ravens are also a good example that you can be looking this good and lose right away in the playoffs. It happens. Right now, however, it would be foolish to change much about the way the team is playing. And people (not necessarily the two quoted here as i haven't seen them do this) need to lay off Tremaine Edmunds. His D has got it together right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, thurst44 said: Any given Sunday. Teams have bad days and good days, our two best linebackers have been hurt much of the season and we have WON every game in that period, many against good teams, save for that fluky game we lost in the last seconds. We could play the Dolphins in Wild Card Weekend and get gashed or play the Ravens and hold Lamar to 100 yards total. And we've won 12 out of our 15 games this year and their losses have had many extenuating circumstances if that's your logic. They've stopped good rushers (see Josh Jacobs, Henry) and had problems against others. I'd say I can't believe the level of anxiety over a 12-3 team that has dominated five games in a row going into the playoffs (we ARE that team right now), but I've been alive long enough to know that it was like this in the 1990s too. And Ravens are also a good example that you can be looking this good and lose right away in the playoffs. It happens. Right now, however, it would be foolish to change much about the way the team is playing. And people (not necessarily the two quoted here as i haven't seen them do this) need to lay off Tremaine Edmunds. His D has got it together right now. OP asked who we don’t want to see in the playoffs. I don’t want to play any team who’s strength is the Bills weakness. Yes, the Bills are 12-3. Yes the defense is playing great right now. All that can change in the playoffs. I’d rather face a team that can become one dimensional (like Indy or Cleveland), than a team that can draw you into making mistakes and over pursue. I think the Bills could beat the Ravens. It would be close and unpleasant, but I do think they could win. I’d rather see them play a team where their weaknesses wouldn’t be taken advantage of. And for the record, I’m a huge fan of Edmunds. Edited December 29, 2020 by RobbRiddicksTDLeap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I maybe wrong, but it seems like Harrison Phillips has been better since being inactive for a few games. I don’t think his knee was right at beginning of season. Run defense has been much better second half of the season. Defense is pretty healthy if they stay that way I’m not worried. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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