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Its happened a few times in NFL history when you let the team in by resting starters and you end up losing to that team.  The fins are riding a lot of momentum and a ton of luck.  I'd rather take my chances on the ravens who aren't playing great D and are 1 dimensional on offense.  

 

Play the starters crush the fins and let the chips fall. 

 

Curious of everyone else's thoughts.  

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I would rather play the Dolphins. They just don't match up at all with the Bills. Allen shreds them throughout his career through the air and on the ground. They play man defense and that is not a recipe for success against us...well...neither is zone anymore. I guess it's kind of good luck with teams against us now...

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Im torn. I agree that letting the Fins in with some momentum by resting starters may have an impact. However Tua is so bad that I actually think our backups can beat him. Does Flores repeat the benching again next week if they are losing?  It can't be good for the culture. I am also concerned about the Ravens. We are a much better team this year but Lamar is a wild card and has something to prove after 2 years of choking in the playoffs. 

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1 minute ago, Mailman said:

Im torn. I agree that letting the Fins in with some momentum by resting starters may have an impact. However Tua is so bad that I actually think our backups can beat him. Does Flores repeat the benching again next week if they are losing?  It can't be good for the culture. I am also concerned about the Ravens. We are a much better team this year but Lamar is a wild card and has something to prove after 2 years of choking in the playoffs. 

Said this to phins fan last night.  They could lose to our backups with Tua. 

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If the Dolphins win next week they have an 8% chance of being the #7 seed.  If they lose they have a 39% chance of being the #7 seed.

 

I 100% agree its looking like its going to be beneficial for the Bills to win next week.

 

We will obviously have a better idea after today's slate of games.

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1 minute ago, Estro said:

If the Dolphins win next week they have an 8% chance of being the #7 seed.  If they lose they have a 39% chance of being the #7 seed.

 

I 100% agree its looking like its going to be beneficial for the Bills to win next week.

 

We will obviously have a better idea after today's slate of games.

 

Did you mean the reverse?

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4 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

Its happened a few times in NFL history when you let the team in by resting starters and you end up losing to that team.  The fins are riding a lot of momentum and a ton of luck.  I'd rather take my chances on the ravens who aren't playing great D and are 1 dimensional on offense.  

 

Play the starters crush the fins and let the chips fall. 

 

Curious of everyone else's thoughts.  

I guess it would depend on what the Steeless Curtain win or lose. If we need starters to get the 2 seed then we'll play em. 

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4 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

I get your take but they also create turnovers, run the ball well and have one of the best special teams units in the league. 

 

Creating turnovers isn't a game plan and the Bills have improved their run defense.  As for STs, the Bills are right there with them.

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11 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

Its happened a few times in NFL history when you let the team in by resting starters and you end up losing to that team.  The fins are riding a lot of momentum and a ton of luck.  I'd rather take my chances on the ravens who aren't playing great D and are 1 dimensional on offense.  

 

Play the starters crush the fins and let the chips fall. 

 

Curious of everyone else's thoughts.  

Put me down for putting the Dolphins down. We do for us, not other teams, especially rival teams. I keep seeing stupid sh*t saying Tua is the heir apparent. The heir apparent has already arrived. And up to this point, he still owns the Dolphins 

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If josh and diggs play, I dont think we can lose to them very easily. Like the announcers said last night, they live and die by playing man to man defense. All season we have torn apart the teams who try to play man against us. They arent built for a shootout, even with Fitz, so I think the matchup favors us in a huge way. 

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I look at it like this. If the Dolphins are the 7 seed. Great the Bills get to bounce them in the first round. If they are the 6 seed maybe Pittsburgh gets them and the Bills get to host the Steelers in ths 2nd round. I look at that as a win-win. Keep one of: Titans, Browns, Ravens out of the playoffs

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12 minutes ago, Mailman said:

Im torn. I agree that letting the Fins in with some momentum by resting starters may have an impact. However Tua is so bad that I actually think our backups can beat him. Does Flores repeat the benching again next week if they are losing?  It can't be good for the culture. I am also concerned about the Ravens. We are a much better team this year but Lamar is a wild card and has something to prove after 2 years of choking in the playoffs. 

This would never happen but it would be hilarious if the backups are beating Tua so Flores trots Fitz out in the second half and, as a counter move, McD puts his starters in for the 3rd to put the game away before bringing the backups back out for the 4th.
that would be a fun game of “one-upsmanship.”

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6 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said:

If josh and diggs play, I dont think we can lose to them very easily. Like the announcers said last night, they live and die by playing man to man defense. All season we have torn apart the teams who try to play man against us. They arent built for a shootout, even with Fitz, so I think the matchup favors us in a huge way. 

The chiefs played mostly man and Josh had his worst game of the year

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22 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

Its happened a few times in NFL history when you let the team in by resting starters and you end up losing to that team.  The fins are riding a lot of momentum and a ton of luck.  I'd rather take my chances on the ravens who aren't playing great D and are 1 dimensional on offense.  

 

Play the starters crush the fins and let the chips fall. 

 

Curious of everyone else's thoughts.  

Nope... don’t want nothing to do with Lamar Jackson in the playoffs. I still think the Bills would win but I think Jackson is always an X-factor that can’t be game-planned for. If he makes 2 or 3 crazy plays it is the difference between winning and losing a playoff game. 

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As i said in a different thread, i think it’s bad mojo to try and orchestrate a scenario to play a specific opponent.  I don’t really think McDermott will try to do that.  But he should play it smart and not risk key players to injury if the game result is meaningless to the Bills.  

If the Bills are as good as we think they are, they should be able to beat Baltimore at home or Cleveland, Miami or whoever.  

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25 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

I get your take but they also create turnovers, run the ball well and have one of the best special teams units in the league. 

Did you watch last night? Curious. Watching that game cemented it for me that the dolphins are not that good. Decent. But do not scare me.

 

Fair point about how it would suck to "let them in", so to speak and then lose to them. But shouldn't change one wanting to still face easiest opponent, which I happen to believe is by far Miami.

5 minutes ago, zow2 said:

As i said in a different thread, i think it’s bad mojo to try and orchestrate a scenario to play a specific opponent.  I don’t really think McDermott will try to do that.  But he should play it smart and not risk key players to injury if the game result is meaningless to the Bills.  

If the Bills are as good as we think they are, they should be able to beat Baltimore at home or Cleveland, Miami or whoever.  

Good thing bad mojo isn't a real thing.

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8 minutes ago, scuba guy said:

With a bad shoulder and a harness and smoke did not play the whole game, milamo was out Edmunds was hurt so was tre


didn’t know that Milano and Edmunds had an affect on Allens ability vs man defense.
 

But yeah, I get it.  Allen was dinged up....but I replied to someone saying that we tore up man d all season.  We certainly didn’t tear up man defense vs the chiefs

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I say we just keep winning and let the chips fall. I’m more confident in our passing offense carrying us. Right now we can’t really predict the weather. So for everyone saying we match up better vs a certain team I counter that it all depends on the weather. Kind of why I’m glad if we make it to the championship round the game is in KC. Cause the wind typically isn’t as bad there. I don’t mind the snow or rain. It’s the wind that makes me nervous in the playoffs. 

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4 minutes ago, NewEra said:


didn’t know that Milano and Edmunds had an affect on Allens ability vs man defense.
 

But yeah, I get it.  Allen was dinged up....but I replied to someone saying that we tore up man d all season.  We certainly didn’t tear up man defense vs the chiefs

But you understand why we didnt vs the Chiefs. If Josh isnt throwing with a sling on, then I think it's a different ball game. He was visibly different in that game compared to the rest. 

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42 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

Its happened a few times in NFL history when you let the team in by resting starters and you end up losing to that team.  The fins are riding a lot of momentum and a ton of luck.  I'd rather take my chances on the ravens who aren't playing great D and are 1 dimensional on offense.  

 

Play the starters crush the fins and let the chips fall. 

 

Curious of everyone else's thoughts.  

If we're playing to win the #2 seed I say go all out, if not I say rest up. See Houston vs us in 1992. 

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8 minutes ago, Fred Slacks said:

I say we just keep winning and let the chips fall. I’m more confident in our passing offense carrying us. Right now we can’t really predict the weather. So for everyone saying we match up better vs a certain team I counter that it all depends on the weather. Kind of why I’m glad if we make it to the championship round the game is in KC. Cause the wind typically isn’t as bad there. I don’t mind the snow or rain. It’s the wind that makes me nervous in the playoffs. 

Even in a tornado or hurricane, I'd rather play the Dolphins 

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Josh has owned the Dolphins. BUT, I feel like this Dolphins defense is not the same defense we faced in week 2. 

 

Looking long-term, I rather not give the Dolphins any confidence at all that they can come to Buffalo in January and win, regardless of whether that is against mostly back ups or not. I agree with the OP. Beat the Dolphins with starter or back-ups whichever it may be and let the chips fall where they may. There is still a decent chance anyway that we can beat the Dolphins week 17 and eliminate them while at the same time the Ravens could finish with the 5th or 6th seed. In either of these scenarios we would match up with either the Browns or the Colts in the first round. For this to happen the Steelers just have to win one of their final two games. As bad as the Steelers have been I can  see this happening. Hard to lose 5 straight.

 

On a side note, I think the Ravens should be on upset alert today. Giants have a scrappy defense and i could see them shutting Jackson down. Just not sure the GIants can make enough plays on offense.

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58 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

Its happened a few times in NFL history when you let the team in by resting starters and you end up losing to that team.  The fins are riding a lot of momentum and a ton of luck.  I'd rather take my chances on the ravens who aren't playing great D and are 1 dimensional on offense.  

 

Play the starters crush the fins and let the chips fall. 

 

Curious of everyone else's thoughts.  


I tend to agree with you. It’s tough to play division opponents and that defense is good. 

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I agree, the Dolphins have luck in their side and the Bills cannot control luck. They can beat any team they face so it doesn't matter, but you don't lay down one week thinking you would win against the same team the next week... Not in the NFL.

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13 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said:

But you understand why we didnt vs the Chiefs. If Josh isnt throwing with a sling on, then I think it's a different ball game. He was visibly different in that game compared to the rest. 

I’m not going to pretend to know that his injury is the only reason that we didn’t torch the chiefs man defense, but you can if you like. He had the sling on the previous week vs Tennessee. While the result that game was awful, it wasn’t due to Allen throwing the ball poorly.  He had one terrible pick and the pick six was thanks to a Robert’s drop.  
 

I do believe that the weather and his injury  may have had an affect on him, but I can’t say that’s why he had a terrible game.

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1 minute ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

I'm officially in the boat of cheering to lock up #2 today/tomorrow and then resting star players next week. Keep in mind, we can only rest so many. We might still win.

 

If Tua were to play the entire game I think we have a 50/50 chance with Barkley at QB and DIggs and Beasley sitting. If Fitz plays a significant amount I'm not sure we stand a chance against them with mostly back ups. 

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59 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said:

Put me down for putting the Dolphins down. We do for us, not other teams, especially rival teams. I keep seeing stupid sh*t saying Tua is the heir apparent. The heir apparent has already arrived. And up to this point, he still owns the Dolphins 

 

Good morning!

 

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