I can see NFL Sunday Ticket go to Amazon Prime

[Draconator]

My thinking is with all the platforms you can watch Amazon Prime (Browser, TV App, Phone, Xbox, Blu Ray players, et. al.), and the NFL wanting to have maximum exposure, this seems like a perfect fit. I would welcome this if this does happen. We'll see how the 49ers/Cardinals game goes. If all reports are good, this would be added strength for Bezos to outbid anyone (including my employer - Verizon Media/Yahoo), for a whole NFL package, including Sunday Ticket. 

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

Bezos can certainly afford it.

 

They will need to fix the frame rate if so. It still looks like streaming sports (unlike the Sunday Ticket app, which looks just like real TV).

[CaptnCoke11]

I wish whoever buys it does like an individual team package as well.  I don’t want every game just Bills games that aren’t nationally televised 

[Draconator]

1 minute ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

I wish whoever buys it does like an individual team package as well.  I don’t want every game just Bills games that aren’t nationally televised 

 

If you don't live in the Buffalo TV Market, this makes perfect sense.

[Rocky Landing]

10 minutes ago, Draconator said:

My thinking is with all the platforms you can watch Amazon Prime (Browser, TV App, Phone, Xbox, Blu Ray players, et. al.), and the NFL wanting to have maximum exposure, this seems like a perfect fit. I would welcome this if this does happen. We'll see how the 49ers/Cardinals game goes. If all reports are good, this would be added strength for Bezos to outbid anyone (including my employer - Verizon Media/Yahoo), for a whole NFL package, including Sunday Ticket. 

Whatever they do, NFL needs to come up with a one-stop-shop, combining NFL Network, GamePass, and Sunday Ticket. Their current system sucks. Personally, living in the mountains, and having a Roku stick, I've had to open up four different platforms ton watch games this season.

[Seasons1992]

5 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

They will need to fix the frame rate if so. It still looks like streaming sports (unlike the Sunday Ticket app, which looks just like real TV).

 

I watched last night's game on Amazon, and it looked just as good as broadcast via antenna. Perhaps it's my fast internet speeds, but I specifically watched for this reason, and it never dropped off, ONCE it spooled up after about 30 seconds.

 

Amazon should dump an aircraft carrier of money on the NFL, charge $10-$20 per game you actually want to watch, and then also buy RedZone which can be included for something like $10-month. I'll run to pay for these options, tomorrow.

[Steptide]

I want more games in 4k. Dont really care how I get the Sunday ticket (Amazon, dtv etc) just give me games in 4k 

[Jay_Fixit]

19 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Bezos can certainly afford it.

 

They will need to fix the frame rate if so. It still looks like streaming sports (unlike the Sunday Ticket app, which looks just like real TV).

Ya, Bezos can definitely afford anything on earth. 

[klos63]

I haven't paid for the NFL ticket in years. I can't imagine Amazon or any other company giving me the deals each year that i get from Directv. 

[Nester]

Watch Amazon buy the entire NFL in a few years and make it a prime exclusive perk.

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

8 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said:

 

I watched last night's game on Amazon, and it looked just as good as broadcast via antenna. Perhaps it's my fast internet speeds, but I specifically watched for this reason, and it never dropped off, ONCE it spooled up after about 30 seconds.

Really? I'll be curious to see what it looks like today.

 

At some point, all streaming services will probably catch up, but so far Sunday Ticket is the only one using a 60fps frame rate that on a TV looks just like satellite and allows for the fast movement in sports. Other apps (NFL Game Pass, YouTube, Locast, Sling, you name it) are dizzying as the players, ball, and camera move. It's amazing to me that providers for the most part haven't addressed this as it is literally the only reason I haven't cut the cord.

[Steptide]

I've thought for a while now that Sunday ticket should be it's own entity. Picture Sunday ticket like Netflix. An app on your tv/phone/tablet where you can access whatever game u want every week with your paid monthly subscription. You could have different tiers of subscriptions, maybe one for just the games, and another for games, red zone, condensed versions of games etc. In the off season they could have draft/combine coverage as well as original content (football documentaries etc) as part of your subscription as well as access to condensed games from previous seasons. You see where I'm going with this. NFL if you're reading this, just send me a royalty check 

[Beerball]

39 minutes ago, Draconator said:

My thinking is with all the platforms you can watch Amazon Prime (Browser, TV App, Phone, Xbox, Blu Ray players, et. al.), and the NFL wanting to have maximum exposure, this seems like a perfect fit. I would welcome this if this does happen. We'll see how the 49ers/Cardinals game goes. If all reports are good, this would be added strength for Bezos to outbid anyone (including my employer - Verizon Media/Yahoo), for a whole NFL package, including Sunday Ticket. 

This is not the first game carried by AZ Prime.

[Seasons1992]

11 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Really? I'll be curious to see what it looks like today.

 

At some point, all streaming services will probably catch up, but so far Sunday Ticket is the only one using a 60fps frame rate that on a TV looks just like satellite and allows for the fast movement in sports. Other apps (NFL Game Pass, YouTube, Locast, Sling, you name it) are dizzying as the players, ball, and camera move. It's amazing to me that providers for the most part haven't addressed this as it is literally the only reason I haven't cut the cord.

I'm now watching the TB game on NFL Network, via my laptop, and it looks just like broadcast. 

Your mileage may vary.

I have 200MBPS internet and I bet that may be the "ticket" for you.

[Draconator]

4 minutes ago, Beerball said:

This is not the first game carried by AZ Prime.

 

I know. They're doing the smart thing by broadcasting a few games, get feedback, make adjustments, and present the NFL with something that can't be ignored. 

[Punching Bag]

6 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Kind and Generous NFL owners should make all games free OTHERWISE they may appear to be money grubbing #######s

 

Sure as soon as Kind and Generous work players for free and NFLPA pays players to represent them.

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said:

I'm now watching the TB game on NFL Network, via my laptop, and it looks just like broadcast. 

Your mileage may vary.

I have 200MBPS internet and I bet that may be the "ticket" for you.

 

Same. I've had no issues streaming this year (legal and otherwise), and everything comes in HD quality. Might help I have an Amazon 4k FireTV thing while watching on Amazon.

 

Streaming and antenna come in even higher quality than cable.

[BillsFan619]

26 minutes ago, klos63 said:

I haven't paid for the NFL ticket in years. I can't imagine Amazon or any other company giving me the deals each year that i get from Directv. 

I totally get what you’re saying. Most years, recently, I haven’t had to pay for it either. That said, you’re still having to pay quite a bit throughout the year to have DirecTv.

 

With so many things either cheap or free nowadays through streaming, it’d be nice to have it on a platform where I could not have to rely on DIRECTV anymore.

 

i’m actually thinking about doing game pass next year. We can’t usually watch the games live anyway so it doesn’t matter about having to wait until after the game is over to watch it.

51 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

I wish whoever buys it does like an individual team package as well.  I don’t want every game just Bills games that aren’t nationally televised 

I have wondered for a while why they haven’t gone to individual team packages. I think they’d get a lot more people if they had a cheaper option like this.

Edited December 26, 2020 by BillsFan619

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I can’t understand why the nfl itself isn’t staggering more games to be stand alone. I have Sunday ticket and have had it for years. I absolutely love it but the more stand alone games, the better. There’s almost no reason to have 8 games at 1 pm on Sunday. I love the mix channel and I watch as much as I can but it’s much easier to concentrate on 1 at a time. The nfl is not like the nba/nhl/mlb...if a game is on, people are going to watch. I would add (at least) a second Monday night game, A Tuesday game 1 Saturday game and A 9:30 am Sunday game. Every week. Also add a second bye week to give the nfl that 18 week season without even adding a game. More stand alone games on tv, equals more money for the league and more games for fans to watch.

[Mr. K]

1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

I wish whoever buys it does like an individual team package as well.  I don’t want every game just Bills games that aren’t nationally televised 

Whomever takes it over, if they were to offer that deal would probably make the price difference between individual team games vs the whole league. 

[Just Jack]

1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

I wish whoever buys it does like an individual team package as well.  I don’t want every game just Bills games that aren’t nationally televised 

 

Do different tier pricing...

 

Tier 1 - One team, in this case Buffalo

Tier 2 - Your teams division - AFC East 

Tier 3 - Your teams conference - All AFC

Tier 4 - All teams

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

40 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said:

I'm now watching the TB game on NFL Network, via my laptop, and it looks just like broadcast. 

Your mileage may vary.internet

I have 200MBPS internet and I bet that may be the "ticket" for you.

NFLN feed on a laptop would be fine. It's not internet speed; it's the frame rate that the channel/provider transmits to the broadcaster (or that the broadcaster reduces and sends to the consumer in some cases). These vary among streaming providers.

42 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Same. I've had no issues streaming this year (legal and otherwise), and everything comes in HD quality. Might help I have an Amazon 4k FireTV thing while watching on Amazon.

 

Streaming and antenna come in even higher quality than cable.

HD yes, but is the movement of the ball, players, and camera as smooth as it is on broadcast?

36 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said:

I totally get what you’re saying. Most years, recently, I haven’t had to pay for it either. That said, you’re still having to pay quite a bit throughout the year to have DirecTv.

 

With so many things either cheap or free nowadays through streaming, it’d be nice to have it on a platform where I could not have to rely on DIRECTV anymore.

 

i’m actually thinking about doing game pass next year. We can’t usually watch the games live anyway so it doesn’t matter about having to wait until after the game is over to watch it.

I have wondered for a while why they haven’t gone to individual team packages. I think they’d get a lot more people if they had a cheaper option like this.

Be aware that you can't currently watch Game Pass on a TV with a TV-quality frame rate. You would be fine if you're watching on a computer.

[dorquemada]

AT&T is desperately trying to unload 49% of DTV to raise some cash.  DTV is worth a whole lot less without the ticket.  I’d argue it is essentially worthless without it.  Even if they keep it though my bet would be the NFL peeling back a bunch more games for national timeslots to sell off to ESPN or amazon or whomever.   I’ve been saying for 20 years that a pay per view option by game would be fine by me

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

I wish whoever buys it does like an individual team package as well.  I don’t want every game just Bills games that aren’t nationally televised 

this is a brilliant idea. I actually think the NFL and whoever owns the TV rights could make a boatload more money doing it this way. 

 

for example, I would easily pay $200 for the Bills games, and they could probably sucker me into some add ons, like red-zone and x games of another team(s). 

[BillsFan619]

36 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

NFLN feed on a laptop would be fine. It's not internet speed; it's the frame rate that the channel/provider transmits to the broadcaster (or that the broadcaster reduces and sends to the consumer in some cases). These vary among streaming providers.

HD yes, but is the movement of the ball, players, and camera as smooth as it is on broadcast?

Be aware that you can't currently watch Game Pass on a TV with a TV-quality frame rate. You would be fine if you're watching on a computer.

Thanks for the info, bro. I appreciate it!

[klos63]

1 hour ago, BillsFan619 said:

I totally get what you’re saying. Most years, recently, I haven’t had to pay for it either. That said, you’re still having to pay quite a bit throughout the year to have DirecTv.

 

With so many things either cheap or free nowadays through streaming, it’d be nice to have it on a platform where I could not have to rely on DIRECTV anymore.

 

i’m actually thinking about doing game pass next year. We can’t usually watch the games live anyway so it doesn’t matter about having to wait until after the game is over to watch it.

I have wondered for a while why they haven’t gone to individual team packages. I think they’d get a lot more people if they had a cheaper option like this.

I would surely be looking at alternatives to Directv is Sunday ticket was gone. That's the only reason I've never looked at another option.

[ROCBillsBeliever]

2 hours ago, Draconator said:

My thinking is with all the platforms you can watch Amazon Prime (Browser, TV App, Phone, Xbox, Blu Ray players, et. al.), and the NFL wanting to have maximum exposure, this seems like a perfect fit. I would welcome this if this does happen. We'll see how the 49ers/Cardinals game goes. If all reports are good, this would be added strength for Bezos to outbid anyone (including my employer - Verizon Media/Yahoo), for a whole NFL package, including Sunday Ticket. 

 

Jeff Bezos be like...

 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

I wish whoever buys it does like an individual team package as well.  I don’t want every game just Bills games that aren’t nationally televised 

That would be great. A less expensive single team rate. But I doubt it happens.  There was never al a carte with cable or satellite programming. 

[CaptnCoke11]

39 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

this is a brilliant idea. I actually think the NFL and whoever owns the TV rights could make a boatload more money doing it this way. 

 

for example, I would easily pay $200 for the Bills games, and they could probably sucker me into some add ons, like red-zone and x games of another team(s). 

I think it makes a lot of sense financially for whoever gets the rights to the ticket.   They will get those people on the fence about paying $300 for the ticket to buy team packages at lower prices.  

[DCofNC]

I don’t know if the individual team games would work or not, the case being that the Cowboys will certainly generate more viewers, than the Bills, and if there’s an individual team rate, does the league actually LOSE money because so many big market team fans bought the whole package before vs taking a smaller chunk now?  From a consumer standpoint, sign me up, from a revenue stand point? Not sure it actually works.  Once you charge more than $10 a game, you are getting too close to paying for the whole ticket anyway,  might as well bite the bullet and just have the whole thing.  At $10 a game, I’m questioning if it’s still worth it (presumably you would get a $160 a year for one team or pay $15 per individual game, which to me seems like I’d just say screw it for that one game I want to watch anyway.   I’m not sure it flies to be honest. 

[YoloinOhio]

This would save me so much money.

[billsfan_34]

4 hours ago, Draconator said:

 

If you don't live in the Buffalo TV Market, this makes perfect sense.

Would be nice if you could rent a game like a movie! 

[machine gun kelly]

I don’t know if they can make up that deficit as the DTV contract is for something like $4 bil.  Not sure on details, but yes, if we could from any venue buy per game at a reasonable price that would be great.  Competition would be good (capitalist at heart) and can check the maps out each week to see if we get the televised game.

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

Flipped from NFLN to Prime, and even though the picture is perfectly pristine with no lag or compression, you can immediately tell it's streaming with a low frame rate because of the dizzying camera movement. I'm actually wondering if most other people just don't notice. Again, if you're just looking at a still frame (like a scoreboard or playoff standings graphic), it looks just like satellite. But when you get into sports movement, you can tell it's streaming.

 

Furthermore, it's 1-2 plays behind ESPN's Gamecast.

[Draconator]

2 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Flipped from NFLN to Prime, and even though the picture is perfectly pristine with no lag or compression, you can immediately tell it's streaming with a low frame rate because of the dizzying camera movement. I'm actually wondering if most other people just don't notice. Again, if you're just looking at a still frame (like a scoreboard or playoff standings graphic), it looks just like satellite. But when you get into sports movement, you can tell it's streaming.

 

Furthermore, it's 1-2 plays behind ESPN's Gamecast.

 

As for me, I swear I'm watching CBS minus James Brown and Coach Cowher. 

[HOUSE]

Next week the game is on Toys R Us

[ColoradoBills]

4 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Really? I'll be curious to see what it looks like today.

 

At some point, all streaming services will probably catch up, but so far Sunday Ticket is the only one using a 60fps frame rate that on a TV looks just like satellite and allows for the fast movement in sports. Other apps (NFL Game Pass, YouTube, Locast, Sling, you name it) are dizzying as the players, ball, and camera move. It's amazing to me that providers for the most part haven't addressed this as it is literally the only reason I haven't cut the cord.

 

The newer hardware is supporting 60 fps.

 

In short, the Fire TV Stick 4K includes a drastically more powerful GPU capable of pushing full 2160p at 60fps, with support for all the major video formats, including Dolby Vision and HDR.

 

https://hometoys.com/amazon-fire-tv-stick-review/

[Draconator]

For what it's worth, I use a Mac Book Pro for work. When my day is done, I switch to a PC with Ryzen processor. The picture is far better on the PC than it is on the Mac. 

[BuffaloBill]

4 hours ago, Steptide said:

I've thought for a while now that Sunday ticket should be it's own entity. Picture Sunday ticket like Netflix. An app on your tv/phone/tablet where you can access whatever game u want every week with your paid monthly subscription. You could have different tiers of subscriptions, maybe one for just the games, and another for games, red zone, condensed versions of games etc. In the off season they could have draft/combine coverage as well as original content (football documentaries etc) as part of your subscription as well as access to condensed games from previous seasons. You see where I'm going with this. NFL if you're reading this, just send me a royalty check 

 

To do this the NFL would set itself up as the primary competition to the networks that buy their product.  Not saying they can’t do it but it would be one heck of a disruptive model and arguably too anti-competitive.

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

Just now, Draconator said:

For what it's worth, I use a Mac Book Pro for work. When my day is done, I switch to a PC with Ryzen processor. The picture is far better on the PC than it is on the Mac. 

Oh, you're using a computer? That makes sense then.