Week 16: Bills at Pats on MNF

[Fan in Chicago]

5 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Sounds like a business decision but will need to wait and see what BB plans on doing.  Interested to see if Stidham is named the starter for this week or not also since I don't think Cam will be back.

I wonder if Cam will *ever* be back

[The Wiz]

1 minute ago, Fan in Chicago said:

I wonder if Cam will *ever* be back

Well, I just meant with the Pats.  I think he will land somewhere but don't think he's going to be starting anywhere again unless someone goes down.

[wjag]

3 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

I wonder if Cam will *ever* be back

The deterioration of his game is stunning.  Some of those throws yesterday were really bad.  The Patriots know how bad he is. That’s why they made him into a RB that’s playing QB. 

[Just Joshin']

5 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

I wonder if Cam will *ever* be back

Only 13 weeks ago where the Pats signing Cam was further proof of the NE genius.  Did not age well.

[natedogg]

Am I the only one who wants the team to go 6-0 in the division?

[Mat68]

I expect Bill to play Stidham and young guys.  Buffalo stomps them.  Even if they play Cam I expect an easy game.  Monday night will be fun, and needed.  I think Buffalo has a chance at the 2 seed.

[Royale with Cheese]

I want to win 31-0

[Michael1962]

2 hours ago, nucci said:

Patriots...it's been their name for years

I was going for a joke/sarcasm but apparently it wasn't funny and/or people didn't  get it.

[nucci]

11 minutes ago, Michael1962 said:

I was going for a joke/sarcasm but apparently it wasn't funny and/or people didn't  get it.

It did...I was doing the same

[BillsFan619]

19 minutes ago, natedogg said:

Am I the only one who wants the team to go 6-0 in the division?

Nope, me too, bro!

 

Plus, we have a very real shot at the number two seed. If we win our final two, Pittsburgh only has to lose one more.

Edited December 21, 2020 by BillsFan619

[JMF2006]

10 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

I really don't buy that vague moral equivalence argument, though in a generic sense this is correct I suppose. There's some real proof of Boston shenanigans. You can speculate all you like everyone does it.

 

Yeah I love all the media blowing smoke up the Cheaters azzes  about 20 years of dominance forgetting all about all the cheating scandals and thats only the crap they got caught on.

[buffalo2218]

40 minutes ago, wjag said:

The deterioration of his game is stunning.  Some of those throws yesterday were really bad.  The Patriots know how bad he is. That’s why they made him into a RB that’s playing QB. 

Cam lost all his objectivity as a QB. He's always wanted attention, and for whatever reason, the only time he gets attention outside of playing for BB is for looking like a clown. He's worried more about his goofy fashion than winning

[Ghost_002!]

10 hours ago, Bob in STL said:

Mine was a Pats* versus Bills game in the 60’s.  I think is was 1964.  On the opening kickoff our fullback, Cookie Gilcrest, destroyed a Pats* player.  He got up from the pile and asked the crowd of Pats* players “which one of you mother Fockers is next?”     
 

I want that to start again. Right now.  
 

 

 

Well seeing that they have reduced kickoff returns..I guess your wish will have to be done another way.

10 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

I really don't buy that vague moral equivalence argument, though in a generic sense this is correct I suppose. There's some real proof of Boston shenanigans. You can speculate all you like everyone does it.

 

 

Yea i don't deal with conspiracy theories...

[RJ (not THAT RJ)]

36 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I want to win 31-0

 

I'd like to see 56-10. 😉

[wjag]

3 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said:

Cam lost all his objectivity as a QB. He's always wanted attention, and for whatever reason, the only time he gets attention outside of playing for BB is for looking like a clown. He's worried more about his goofy fashion than winning

His maturing as a person has been interesting to watch.  I stumbled across a Q&A session he did years ago in front of a live audience.  His hair was close-cropped, so I suspect he was much younger.  Maybe early in his career.  His personality was down right charming as he schmoozed the audience.  He exuded charisma. He actually looks smaller now as if he has lost weight.  I suspect the injuries, the weird off season, being the last kid picked on the playground, the insultingly low price point he is playing for, the stress of playing for NE,  following a GOAT and losing in a town conditioned on winning is takings its toll. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

11 hours ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

If you were the jets..I could see it, but I don't remember any ill will toward the bills or the pats "running up" the score against the bills...

 

Plus what is "running up the score" i never understood that when fans (not directed at you) complain about that, they are professionals. Your job is to stop the other team from scoring..

 

 

Shirley you jest 

 

how long have you been a Pats *** fan?

 

[Royale with Cheese]

4 minutes ago, RJ (not THAT RJ) said:

 

I'd like to see 56-10. 😉

 

And their only TD comes from a Matt Barkley pick 6 when Allen is pulled in the 3rd quarter.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

41 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I want to win 31-0

I want 51 - 3

 

[stevewin]

59 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said:

Only 13 weeks ago where the Pats signing Cam was further proof of the NE genius.  Did not age well.

Yep - and all the talking heads scolding the rest of the league about how Bellicheat schooled them and was at another level - give me a friggin break

[Ghost_002!]

8 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

Shirley you jest 

 

how long have you been a Pats *** fan?

 

 

 

 

Again what is "running up the score " to a bunch of professionals..grown a** men. Playing football.

 

Do fans complain when some D1 college beats a lesser opp by 50 or 60 points .

Edited December 21, 2020 by Ghost_002!

[ogham26]

22 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Rest the starters! 

 

nope thats for week 17

[stevewin]

1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

I want 51 - 3

 

At the end of the 3rd - then Bellicheat storms off the field in a hissy fit never to be seen again

Edited December 21, 2020 by stevewin

[John Gianelli]

When they were scheduling the Monday Night games last summer, they were probably worried: "Do we really want to take a chance on a game where a team that's out of the playoffs will be playing one who's already clinched the division?"

[The Wiz]

7 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

 

Again what is "running up the score " to a bunch of professionals..grown a** men. Playing football.

 

Do fans complain when some D1 college beats a lesser opp by 50 or 60 points .

They may be professional, grown men but at some point it goes from being a matter of getting beat and getting your pride pissed on.  That's when you start to worry.  Think of Owens when he stood on the Dallas Star and got crushed by the Dallas player. 

 

Things can get chippy really quick when your getting beat like that.  There was even a shot of the Denver sideline the other night of Chubb and Harris yelling at each other. 

 

 

 

They made up later but these guys still take what they do seriously.

 

Edited December 21, 2020 by The Wiz

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

4 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

Again what is "running up the score " to a bunch of professionals..grown a** men. Playing football.

 

Do fans complain when some D1 college beats a lesser opp by 50 or 60 points .

you don’t pay much attention to the NFL outside of your Pats fandom do you?

 

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3084539

 

https://musketfire.com/2019/09/21/kyle-van-noy-patriots-running-score/amp/
 

https://nypost.com/2015/09/28/patriots-running-up-score-as-deflategate-revenge-and-15-more-nfl-thoughts/amp/
 

[buffaloboyinATL]

I just heard Gilmore is done for the year on NFLN.  Apparently he did not want to get put through the spin cycle bt any Bills receivers on MNF next week.  

[eball]

11 minutes ago, John Gianelli said:

When they were scheduling the Monday Night games last summer, they were probably worried: "Do we really want to take a chance on a game where a team that's out of the playoffs will be playing one who's already clinched the division?"

 

I love the irony.

[Ghost_002!]

1 minute ago, The Wiz said:

They may be professional, grown men but at some point it goes from being a matter of getting beat and getting your pride pissed on.  That's when you start to worry.  Think of Owens when he stood on the Dallas Star and got crushed by the Dallas player. 

 

Things can get chippy really quick when your getting beat like that.  There was even a shot of the Denver sideline the other night of Chubb and Harris yelling at each other. 

 

 

 

They made up later but these guys still take what they do seriously.

 

 

it's nonsense to think most coaches and players care about "running up the score" . Most of them would look at you like it's our job to stop the other team from scoring especially old school coaches.  This ain't baseball where some "unwritten" rule was violated.  What Owen's did yes i can see that as being disrespectful and players taken pride in who they are and who they play for, i expect most to say It's our job to stop them from scoring....now IMO if a team is doing  late in a game for the sole purpose to break a record, to me that is something to gripe about.  

 

if the bills beat the pats 50-10 or some ridiculous score. That's on the patriots defense.

[Ghost_002!]

16 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

you don’t pay much attention to the NFL outside of your Pats fandom do you?

 

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3084539

 

https://musketfire.com/2019/09/21/kyle-van-noy-patriots-running-score/amp/
 

https://nypost.com/2015/09/28/patriots-running-up-score-as-deflategate-revenge-and-15-more-nfl-thoughts/amp/
 

 

 

Clearly you don't know what I know .

 

passage from one of your links

 

As for Gibbs, he didn't have a problem with Belichick's tactics, The two coaches shook hands after the game, although they certainly didn't make a lot of small talk.

"No, I have no problem with anything that they did," Gibbs said. "Nothing, no problems from me."

 

 If you missed my pervious post...i said most coaches and players do not complain about that crap...just as most players and coaches do not "tank"

 

I have seen Bill Parcells (for example) scruff at anyone bring up "running up the score" on another team 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 21, 2020 by Ghost_002!

[nucci]

1 hour ago, wjag said:

The deterioration of his game is stunning.  Some of those throws yesterday were really bad.  The Patriots know how bad he is. That’s why they made him into a RB that’s playing QB. 

I don't get the empty backfield, direct snap and he just tries to run.  He's very slow and those plays don't make sense

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Kwai San]

1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

Well seeing that they have reduced kickoff returns..I guess your wish will have to be done another way.

 

 

Yea i don't deal with conspiracy theories...

 

No theory there dude.....there is a reason for all the fines and loss of draft picks.  No theory just a Cheatriots fans head deep in the sand.  The fans I respect are the ones that say yeah they cheated, they got caught and they paid a price.  Albeit a very small price but they paid.  This crazy talk of conspiracies and being held to a different standard and what not???  Sorry man that crap don't fly here. 

 

They got caught, they got fined , they lost draft picks.  Where is the conspiracy except in your head????

[eball]

21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

And to think, so many of you scoffed at Beane when his first comments after the WC loss in January were "we need to score more points."

 

Job.  Done.

[Pokebball]

59 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

I want 51 - 3

 

With 25 of these points coming from Barkley

[Ghost_002!]

9 minutes ago, Kwai San said:

 

No theory there dude.....there is a reason for all the fines and loss of draft picks.  No theory just a Cheatriots fans head deep in the sand.  The fans I respect are the ones that say yeah they cheated, they got caught and they paid a price.  Albeit a very small price but they paid.  This crazy talk of conspiracies and being held to a different standard and what not???  Sorry man that crap don't fly here. 

 

They got caught, they got fined , they lost draft picks.  Where is the conspiracy except in your head????

 

 

Never denied "spy gate" what i am talking about is the details that people drum up and speculate what exactly the patriots were doing ...also referencing the poster's  comments about "the fishy stuff" that goes on in Boston. 

Edited December 21, 2020 by Ghost_002!

[Kwai San]

4 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

Never denied "spy gate" what i am talking about is the details that people drum up and speculate what exactly the patriots were doing...also referencing the posters i was replying to comments about "the fishy stuff" that goes on in Boston. 

 

Well seeing that it is Boston there is bound to be "fishy" stuff close by, sarcasm by the way if you didn't get it.  I can agree there is alot of speculation but as they say....where there is smoke, there is fire.  No denying that......there is much more that went on that didn't get caught outright.  With Robert being basically Goodells boss also led to things being....lets say "managed".

Edited December 21, 2020 by Kwai San

[Mark Vader]

12 hours ago, sullim4 said:

 

Tell that to the 2007 version of myself that traveled from Seattle and sat in the November cold, for that Sunday night game where the Bills got whooped 56-10.  The "highlight" that comes to mind - Belichick going for it on fourth down twice in the third quarter, up 35-7 one time and another time up 42-7 right at the end of the quarter.

 

This isn't even my main issue with that franchise.  The lopsided benefit of the doubt on every controversial officiating call, constantly walking the line of the rulebook in controversial ways just to needle opponents (e.g. the consecutive false start penalties against the Jets), digging through the garbage of their opponent's hotel rooms, spygate, deflategate, taking cheap shots at their opponents after big plays (Gronk on Tre White)... the list goes on and on.

 

I wish that franchise nothing but ill will and failure.

I could not have put it better myself.

[Johnnycage46]

7 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

Never denied "spy gate" what i am talking about is the details that people drum up and speculate what exactly the patriots were doing ...also referencing the poster's  comments about "the fishy stuff" that goes on in Boston. 

 

Multiple teams over the years have indicated that their headsets would inexplicably be disconnected while playing at New England.  Anecdotal, sure, but as others have said, where there is smoke there is fire.  The Patriots are known cheaters and dirt bags.  And they are out of the playoffs and in a rebuild.  Enjoy it!!

[The Wiz]

2 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

Multiple teams over the years have indicated that their headsets would inexplicably be disconnected while playing at New England.  Anecdotal, sure, but as others have said, where there is smoke there is fire.  The Patriots are known cheaters and dirt bags.  And they are out of the playoffs and in a rebuild.  Enjoy it!!

Didn't Flutie also say that Brady's headset would never cut off even after the 15 seconds left on the play clock while he was on the team?

[Patrick Duffy]

4 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

Multiple teams over the years have indicated that their headsets would inexplicably be disconnected while playing at New England.  Anecdotal, sure, but as others have said, where there is smoke there is fire.  The Patriots are known cheaters and dirt bags.  And they are out of the playoffs and in a rebuild.  Enjoy it!!

I know I will....