Casey D Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Was there some major development for this to happen. Josh's injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 that’s pretty crazy given that we are 3 games up on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) Yeah it was a steady Bills - 2 1/2 and then a 3 1/2 point swing. Edited December 4, 2020 by Casey D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 The goal of oddsmakers is to get even amounts of money bet on both sides. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 That’s a big shift. Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Avenger Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 So why all the money on SF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Back the Blue said: The goal of oddsmakers is to get even amounts of money bet on both sides. 1 minute ago, Back the Blue said: The goal of oddsmakers is to get even amounts of money bet on both sides. Of course. But that is a dramatic shift. Moves are gradual in the line, unless something significant happens, e.g., a QB in or out. Just now, The Avenger said: So why all the money on SF? That's what I was hoping someone knew. Garrapolo back? Allen out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I think the 49ers can still score. With Aiyuk coming back, Samuel and Mostert already back, they are going to move the football. The Bills don't have the same gear offensively without Brown despite Davis' best effort as a fill-in. So a tight game is to be expected, especially on the road. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 This is the second straight game with tons of late money going against Buffalo. The Chargers point spread shifted a bunch and a lot of people lost big betting LA. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InEnemyTerritory Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Despite what we have seen I think the Bills, unfortunately, still have a national reputation as a fraud team. Beating the Steelers should fix that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I see Bills -1 been there for a couple of days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Not sure where these numbers are coming from. Both my major sites have the bills at -1... still a large swing from -3 but not as big as the op is stating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Casey D said: Was there some major development for this to happen. Josh's injury? No, more than likely a lot of money was bet on SF and this is to try and "balance the money" so the book doesn't take a huge hit...at the end of the day, the books want to try and make it so there is a near equal amount bet on both teams so they don't take crazy losses. In effect, the lines have more to do with gamblers at times than with who they think is going to actually win. Edited December 4, 2020 by matter2003 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said: I see Bills -1 been there for a couple of days +1 most places now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: No, more than likely a lot of money was bet on SF and this is to try and "balance the money" so the book doesn't take a huge hit...at the end of the day, the books want to try and make it so there is a near equal amount bet on both teams so they don't take crazy losses. In effect, the lines have more to do with gamblers at times than with who they think is going to actually win. Could be right. Maybe I missed a day of movement too. But right now it is pick or SF -1 at most sites. Just thought there could have been a big development, but usually if that happened the line would just be suspended, i.e., off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Casey D said: Could be right. Maybe I missed a day of movement too. But right now it is pick or SF -1 at most sites. Just thought there could have been a big development, but usually if that happened the line would just be suspended, i.e., off From what I heard the initial line was getting a vast majority of people/money betting on SF, so this is to try and discourage that and have money come in on the other side... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Joshy may not play which is good. Let him rest and heal for what it's more important. The post season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 The 2 sites I use are both +1 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I think when we were -3 it mightve been partly due to the uncertainty of not knowing where the game was going to be played maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 KC is -1100 ....Crazy. Getting to be almost CFB lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: Joshy may not play which is good. Let him rest and heal for what it's more important. The post season. What are you talking about? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 SF smoked the Rams who they always clobber. Bills didn’t look great against Chargers. Recency Bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, LEBills said: SF smoked the Rams who they always clobber. Bills didn’t look great against Chargers. Recency Bias. Yep. The 49ers clobber the Rams because they have the Rams playbook. Because it is Shanahan's playbook. Nobody understands the fundamental concepts of the stretch zone and how to shut it down better than Kyle Shanahan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: What are you talking about? He injured his ankle and knee last week. There's no way he got out of that play unscathed. He was running on full adrenaline rest of the game. I'm not surprised if his ankle and knee has swollen up to a size of a volleyball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Honestly, this should be an easy win. I salute SF for even being 5-6 at this point but they are a shell of themselves. I hate betting the Bills but I am seriously considering it. You can’t lose to Nick Mullens and a team without their best 2 players on offense and defense. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) You guys need to realize how much disposable income is centered in the SF Bay area. With Silicon Valley and .com industry it really is insanely wealthy. The betters and bay area money has shifted the lines, not the wise guys. The wise guys liked us @ -3.5 in most spots. Nearly all the wise guy type picks have been picking us. These bay area / silicon valley folks are overreacting to the LA win and buying into the SOB story of adversity from the SC County crap. Put your money on buff and sleep easy. Edited December 4, 2020 by RichRiderBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I wouldn't bet the line on this game but I would tease it. Whichever team ends up teasing a TD or more. It opened at 49ers teased to +8.5 now it is Bills teased to +7. Both look like good bets to me. I think our defense is starting to gel so i see a chance of keeping the 49ers under 20 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Bets were going SF way. Lots of folks think they are shaping into form and that they will run for 300 yards and have the ball 40+ minutes against us. Think repeat of Chiefs game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 38 minutes ago, LEBills said: SF smoked the Rams who they always clobber. Bills didn’t look great against Chargers. Recency Bias. Held the 3rd best offense in the league to 17 1 minute ago, ngbills said: Bets were going SF way. Lots of folks think they are shaping into form and that they will run for 300 yards and have the ball 40+ minutes against us. Think repeat of Chiefs game. Is mahomes suiting up for them to cause the bills to invite them to run? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: He injured his ankle and knee last week. There's no way he got out of that play unscathed. He was running on full adrenaline rest of the game. I'm not surprised if his ankle and knee has swollen up to a size of a volleyball. OK - so no facts just your guess. Got it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Held the 3rd best offense in the league to 17 Is mahomes suiting up for them to cause the bills to invite them to run? People that don’t follow the Bills just remember the turnovers and the overall sloppiness for both teams. I’m happy with the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, The Avenger said: So why all the money on SF? No John Brown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Held the 3rd best offense in the league to 17 Is mahomes suiting up for them to cause the bills to invite them to run? If I am betting I would definitely put money on the Bills in this one. If you listen to the "analyst" they think Mostert will have a big game against the Bills but most still the Bills win. I tend to agree that I could see big games from both Mostert and Samuel. Lets see which Bills D shows up this week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 45 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: He injured his ankle and knee last week. There's no way he got out of that play unscathed. He was running on full adrenaline rest of the game. I'm not surprised if his ankle and knee has swollen up to a size of a volleyball. Right. We all know about his injury. But your claim that he might not play? That's just not supported by the reality of practice and injury reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: I think the 49ers can still score. With Aiyuk coming back, Samuel and Mostert already back, they are going to move the football. The Bills don't have the same gear offensively without Brown despite Davis' best effort as a fill-in. So a tight game is to be expected, especially on the road. Meh!!! We are going to kick their butts💪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 My take: The Niners are 14th best in yards on offense and 6th best in yards given up on defense (the Bills are 11th and 21st, respectively); their pythagorean record is 5.7-5.3 (very close to the Bills 5.9-5.1); they are great at running the ball and the Bills are bad stopping it; they are playing at "home" (or at least in roughly the same time zone and at a place they play at every year); and they are more desperate right now than the Bills. Another thing: the Niners are 6th in rushing TDs and 8th in rushing ypa; the Bills' D is 29th in rushing TDs given up and 27th in rushing ypa allowed. That is, they'e a bad matchup for the Bills. Finally, the Niners are extremely well coached and well-schemed, especially in the running game. I'm not saying SF will win, but there is a logic to the Bills being +1. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson said: Joshy may not play which is good. Let him rest and heal for what it's more important. The post season. SHUT HIM DOWN!!! (In my best Gordon Ramsay voice) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson said: He injured his ankle and knee last week. There's no way he got out of that play unscathed. He was running on full adrenaline rest of the game. I'm not surprised if his ankle and knee has swollen up to a size of a volleyball. He's been practicing with his volleyball sized ankles and knee. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Bills getting a point against the Nick Mullens-lead 49ers?!?!? DROP THAT HAMMER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 47 minutes ago, ngbills said: Think repeat of Chiefs game. You think we'll play Mullens like we played Mahomes? That's an interesting take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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