gordong Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 well *****... the gap is getting bigger and bigger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just now, Chuck Wagon said: There's one team in the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes. I didn't say it was a given. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) Brutal news... Just bad all around...Huge need...Wasted cap space getting no real production on the D-Line outside of Addison, and that's standing in the way of making a move that cost next to nothing pick-wise. He goes to a team that the Bills are trying to beat to get to the SB and the Ravens already have a FAR better Defense... Just bad...😎 Edited October 22, 2020 by KOKBILLS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 We couldn’t afford him even if we wanted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 someone mentioned it yesterday and people flamed him. damn beane needs to go for the move. this team needs a playoff run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Clemfield2622 said: Hell, I could have told you that. Murphy, Hughes, and Addison all have cap hits over 9 million Jefferson and Butler are over 6 And for what production? Murphy, Hughes and Butler will be gone next year IMO. That will clear some room to get some more in....plus I expect us to draft multiple defensive lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDiehard Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Meanwhile we signing Jets cast-offs to our practice squad. I'm telling you, Beane is thinks he has the guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just now, bills6969 said: We couldn’t afford him even if we wanted him. I think this is less about Ngakoue, and more about the Bills making a move to improve the defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: someone mentioned it yesterday and people flamed him. damn beane needs to go for the move. this team needs a playoff run How can we when we pay good money for subpar talent? We always do this, coupled with subpar drafting. Meanwhile real competent teams like Pit and Balt draft and sign great talent year after year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDiehard Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: I think this is less about Ngakoue, and more about the Bills making a move to improve the defense. We're not going to do anything...Beane loves draft picks and McDermott thinks we can win with the team he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 We’ll always have Zack Moss and Vosean Jos...oops! Never mind. Kidding on Zack Moss...a little. He may turn out a fine player, but no question I’m taking a top flight pass rusher over a backup RB all day. McD and Beane have really struggled to get anyone in here that can give a consistent pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 The silver lining here is that if he does not resign with them they lost some assets. If there is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, TheProcess said: We’ll always have Zack Moss and Vosean Jos...oops! Never mind. Kidding on Zack Moss...a little. He may turn out a fine player, but no question I’m taking a top flight pass rusher over a backup RB all day. McD and Beane have really struggled to get anyone in here that can give a consistent pass rush. Meanwhile teams like Pitt drafted players like Watt and Dupree. While we spin tires on Maybinites. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, BillsDiehard said: We're not going to do anything...Beane loves draft picks and McDermott thinks we can win with the team he has. Yes, he loves them so much that he knows when to trade them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just now, IronMaidenBills said: Meanwhile teams like Pitt drafted players like Watt and Dupree. While we spin tires on Maybinites. We can let that name forever rest in history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Had no ability to fit him in our Salary Structure unfortunately because that is a cheap price, and Minny is in cap hell and wouldn't be taking on any contracts to help Yannick fit. Sucks but I think this is the defense we are living with or dying with this year. I do expect dramatic changes to at least the front 7 next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, H2o said: Soon they will have to pay Lamar and they will also have some holes to fill next offseason with the fact being no one truly knows how much money will be available. The Bills are in the same exact situation - both QBs were first round picks the same year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Bills will likely be a one and done team in the playoffs again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, Bangarang said: No worries guys, we still have rookie AJ Epenesa, Trent Murphy, and the corpses of Jerry Hughes and Mario Addison. Once Trent gets healthy and gets to play the Jets every game, he will be a monster. what an awesome trade for the Ravens. It’s going to be almost a 4th and 6th for a guy who is tied for 4th in sacks. Would have been amazing for us. what other good pass rushers are on the market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Ngakoue >> Hughes for McD's scheme. Future 3rd and 5th is peanuts for 9 games this season + option to re-sign or get back a comp pick. Like Hughes, he is not great at setting the edge (though likely better than Hughes - did ya guys see the 31 yard run play against the Chiefs) - but unlike Hughes, he will actually be getting to the QB more. C'mon Beaner - do your thing. Sadly, you know who set a good edge, Lawson. Resigning Lawson and Phillips would have also offset the money given to Butler, Addison and Jefferson and kept the continuity on defense. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 36 minutes ago, whatdrought said: So he had a cup of coffee in Minnesota? Well, after you’ve shot a moose, what else is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: Resigning Lawson and Phillips would have also offset the money given to Butler, Addison and Jefferson and kept the continuity on defense. Phillips was the soul of that d-line last year. People think Star is the missing piece.. I think it's Phillips. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Phillips was the soul of that d-line last year. People think Star is the missing piece.. I think it's Phillips. I hated the Star signing but the combo of him and Phillips made for a really good combo DT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 In fairness the Bills don't really have the draft capital or cache of young talent to part with much in trade for a rental. Beane has been a little careless with draft capital. For example........while the Cardinals were fleecing the Texans for Hopkins.........Beane threw in both a 2020 5th and a 2021 4th this year to get Diggs.......which is nearly the cost the Ravens are paying too rent Ngakoue. The Ravens personnel department is just much better than the Bills..........they are in position to make hay because they are more efficient with their opportunities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I hated the Star signing but the combo of him and Phillips made for a really good combo DT. They certainly miss them both, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Also add Dez to the PS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 38 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I just found out on Joe B's podcast that the Bills have the most expensive DL in the league. 22% of our cap goes to the DL. We're going to be releasing a lot players in the offseason. McD sets the strategy and it requires a 7-8 man rotation DL. And 4 years into the "process" that's brought multiple questionable contracts. Star, Murphy, and Klein immediately come to mind. There are exceptions, but McD loves his high-motor type players who aren't the most skilled. And that shows up against top competition where he struggles to win. Maybe it all works out. Maybe McD's plan is flawed and topping out. Or, perhaps Josh carries this team and McD lets him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: The Bills are in the same exact situation - both QBs were first round picks the same year. But the Ravens don't have the same amount of needs we have currently on the defensive side of the ball as a whole. Their offense is set basically except for Lamar. Like it or not their, team overall is more talented than ours at this point being set up for a "win now" move as such. I also believe Ngakoue fits better into their 3-4 than he does our 4-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 But .... but .... I thought Beane was a wizard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: In fairness the Bills don't really have the draft capital or cache of young talent to part with much in trade for a rental. Beane has been a little careless with draft capital. For example........while the Cardinals were fleecing the Texans for Hopkins.........Beane threw in both a 2020 5th and a 2021 4th this year to get Diggs.......which is nearly the cost the Ravens are paying too rent Ngakoue. The Ravens personnel department is just much better than the Bills..........they are in position to make hay because they are more efficient with their opportunities. Yes, the Ravens front office is great. They really are one of the best run organizations in sports. I think everyone can agree that the Hopkins trade and the Diggs trade were made under two totally different circumstances. Beane paid that price for Diggs because he had to.. people want to keep comparing the Diggs and Hopkins trade because they happened around the same time, but O’Brien was never trading Hopkins in the AFC and he was running rogue... using that as a way to diminish Beane’s decision making is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: But .... but .... I thought Beane was a wizard? So you didn't want Stefon Diggs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 How the heck did we not get in on this? I'd easily have parted with a 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 We didn't have the cap room & spend the most in the NFL on our defensive line. This is our bed, we have to lay in it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Phillips was the soul of that d-line last year. People think Star is the missing piece.. I think it's Phillips. He's crushing it in AZ. I think Phillips and Lawson were both really valuable. Lawson contained the edge and was a good run stopper. Seems our guys are taking very wide paths to the QB and losing both contain and the ability to get in quick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: In fairness the Bills don't really have the draft capital or cache of young talent to part with much in trade for a rental. Beane has been a little careless with draft capital. For example........while the Cardinals were fleecing the Texans for Hopkins.........Beane threw in both a 2020 5th and a 2021 4th this year to get Diggs.......which is nearly the cost the Ravens are paying too rent Ngakoue. The Ravens personnel department is just much better than the Bills..........they are in position to make hay because they are more efficient with their opportunities. Hopkins is the highest paid WR in the history of football. Diggs has years remaining on a team friendly deal. This must be accounted for in evaluating the two trades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 The process...the wizard...yawn. Sadly this team could end up being worse than last year despite the improvements on offense. I know people will see how do you know we didnt try, etc. But we had a much bigger need than the ravens so could have offered something more. This was the type of move this team needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 There probably are a lot of reasons why the Bills couldn’t make a trade like (salary cap) and reasons why Yannick wanted to go to Baltimore (he’s a MD native), but man it’s disappointing to see a player of his caliber traded for so little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 57 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I just found out on Joe B's podcast that the Bills have the most expensive DL in the league. 22% of our cap goes to the DL. We're going to be releasing a lot players in the offseason. We will get younger, and we will get cheaper. It’s got to happen, and I’m confident it will. I pray we are also BETTER. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: He's crushing it in AZ. I think Phillips and Lawson were both really valuable. Lawson contained the edge and was a good run stopper. Seems our guys are taking very wide paths to the QB and losing both contain and the ability to get in quick. I hate that we had to lose Shaq because of Murphy. An ascending player vs a PED guy who struggles to stay healthy and lacks production. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I just found out on Joe B's podcast that the Bills have the most expensive DL in the league. 22% of our cap goes to the DL. We're going to be releasing a lot players in the offseason. No we're not as Trent Murphy's contract will be off the books and we could cut someone like Butler and only count $1 million against our cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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