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11 minutes ago, Screwball said:

 

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Good to see the Bills at least try,  the fact is the Chiefs have way more talent on both sides on the ball and unless Beanne picks up some game changer on defensive side of the ball the Bills will have tough time getting past Chiefs.  Only thing that could that is health of the Chiefs.

 

Kudos to Bills for being pro active to improve the team

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Bell’s gonna love it in KC when he gets 4-5 touches per game.  Seriously, how long is he going to be happy with all those mouths to feed and being the back-up to CEH?  I guess winning helps, but Bell strikes me as the type of guy who needs lots of touches.  I see a potential bad situation brewing in KC.

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9 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Bell’s gonna love it in KC when he gets 4-5 touches per game.  Seriously, how long is he going to be happy with all those mouths to feed and being the back-up to CEH?  I guess winning helps, but Bell strikes me as the type of guy who needs lots of touches.  I see a potential bad situation brewing in KC.

It's a one year deal.. I'm sure he'll be chasing the money and feature back status this off-season

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Looking at his choice if the Chiefs says a lot. He wants a shot at a ring  WITHOUT beingThe primary back. Fits with his present performance, he didn’t want to be THE guy or Miami would probably have been very attractive. I think he knows he is not the same back that was in Pittsburgh ;  if he was still confident there is no way he would settle ,given his ego, to just be a role player getting 8-10 touches a game which is the likely scenario in KC.   The big concern in my eyes is what does this say about Moss’s  health. Why go after Bell ,who would have had to be  released.?  Jones, Yeldon, or is Moss close to IR with a nagging injury?   I see this as concern because if they have faith in Moss, why go after a struggling vet back who has.not produced in three years?    We all see the glaring CB , LB DL issues that if not addressed or miraculously improve will drag this team down, so it does raise a red flag perhaps about Moss that Mcbean felt they had to kick the tires on Bell. I think Bills being first out says they were looking for possible insurance if Moss’s injury drags on. 

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2 minutes ago, DrPJax said:

Looking at his choice if the Chiefs says a lot. He wants a shot at a ring  WITHOUT beingThe primary back. Fits with his present performance, he didn’t want to be THE guy or Miami would probably have been very attractive. I think he knows he is not the same back that was in Pittsburgh ;  if he was still confident there is no way he would settle ,given his ego, to just be a role player getting 8-10 touches a game which is the likely scenario in KC.   The big concern in my eyes is what does this say about Moss’s  health. Why go after Bell ,who would have had to be  released.?  Jones, Yeldon, or is Moss close to IR with a nagging injury?   I see this as concern because if they have faith in Moss, why go after a struggling vet back who has.not produced in three years?    We all see the glaring CB , LB DL issues that if not addressed or miraculously improve will drag this team down, so it does raise a red flag perhaps about Moss that Mcbean felt they had to kick the tires on Bell. I think Bills being first out says they were looking for possible insurance if Moss’s injury drags on. 

 

On the one hand, I see your point.

 

On the other hand, I think it's always worth entering the conversation for a guy who not too long ago, was a premier player in the league.

 

I also think Beane had his price in mind, and wasn't interested in inflating it.

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1 minute ago, Process said:

It's a one year deal.. I'm sure he'll be chasing the money and feature back status this off-season

 

Dude’s turning 29 in February.  He looks to me like he’s lost a step over the past two years, but people like to attribute his decline to playing for Gase/the Jets.  I guess I’ll buy that for now.

 

Do you really think any team is going to offer him a big contract next season?  Turning 30 and with a history of being a huge pain in the ass.  Serious question.

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31 minutes ago, Screwball said:

 

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Thanks!

 

For sure, KC is loaded and if it's Superbowl he wants, I can't argue against them as his best bet among suitors.  I also can't argue against them as having the best proven run blocking of the three.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Dude’s turning 29 in February.  He looks to me like he’s lost a step over the past two years, but people like to attribute his decline to playing for Gase/the Jets.  I guess I’ll buy that for now.

 

Do you really think any team is going to offer him a big contract next season?  Turning 30 and with a history of being a huge pain in the ass.  Serious question.

 

I think it will depend upon how/what he does in KC

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4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

I think it will depend upon how/what he does in KC

 

Exactly, which is why I am puzzled as to why he didn’t choose MIA where it seems like he could have been the feature back almost immediately.  

 

Perhaps he is content with the $ he’s accrued already, and just wants a ring? 🤷🏾‍♂️

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14 minutes ago, DrPJax said:

Looking at his choice if the Chiefs says a lot. He wants a shot at a ring  WITHOUT beingThe primary back. Fits with his present performance, he didn’t want to be THE guy or Miami would probably have been very attractive. I think he knows he is not the same back that was in Pittsburgh ;  if he was still confident there is no way he would settle ,given his ego, to just be a role player getting 8-10 touches a game which is the likely scenario in KC.   The big concern in my eyes is what does this say about Moss’s  health. Why go after Bell ,who would have had to be  released.?  Jones, Yeldon, or is Moss close to IR with a nagging injury?   I see this as concern because if they have faith in Moss, why go after a struggling vet back who has.not produced in three years?    We all see the glaring CB , LB DL issues that if not addressed or miraculously improve will drag this team down, so it does raise a red flag perhaps about Moss that Mcbean felt they had to kick the tires on Bell. I think Bills being first out says they were looking for possible insurance if Moss’s injury drags on. 


This is a very centered take.

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3 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Exactly, which is why I am puzzled as to why he didn’t choose MIA where it seems like he could have been the feature back almost immediately.  

 

Perhaps he is content with the $ he’s accrued already, and just wants a ring? 🤷🏾‍♂️

I heard the weed is better in KC

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If he had to go to a team that the Bills have to face, I'd rather it be KC versus Miami.  KC has so many weapons, to get Bell in the game one of those other weapons will need to come off the field.  In Miami he might have been a difference maker.  I don't see that in KC.

 

I appreciate the Bills making an effort.  Now that we lost out, I'd like to see them use Yeldon in the roll they may have envisioned Bell.

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1 minute ago, jkeerie said:

If he had to go to a team that the Bills have to face, I'd rather it be KC versus Miami.  KC has so many weapons, to get Bell in the game one of those other weapons will need to come off the field.  In Miami he might have been a difference maker.  I don't see that in KC.

 

I appreciate the Bills making an effort.  Now that we lost out, I'd like to see them use Yeldon in the roll they may have envisioned Bell.

I agree with this

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42 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Seriously, how long is he going to be happy with all those mouths to feed and being the back-up to CEH?  I guess winning helps, but Bell strikes me as the type of guy who needs lots of touches. 

 

One of his primary complaints in Pittsburgh was that they gave him the ball too much. :doh:

That was pretty much the moment I became convinced I wouldn't want him in a Bills uniform even if he paid for his own gas.

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44 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Bell’s gonna love it in KC when he gets 4-5 touches per game.  Seriously, how long is he going to be happy with all those mouths to feed and being the back-up to CEH?  I guess winning helps, but Bell strikes me as the type of guy who needs lots of touches.  I see a potential bad situation brewing in KC.


agreed. I also don’t think he’s a guy that wants to win necessarily. I could be wrong. But he did sit out in Pittsburgh when that team was poised to win Super Bowls. 
 

I think he just wants a lot of touches and I have no idea how he will get them in KC. They can’t even feed the guys they currently have over there. Poor Sammy only runs decoy routes still. 

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1 minute ago, Simon said:

 

One of his primary complaints in Pittsburgh was that they gave him the ball too much. :doh:

That was pretty much the moment I became convinced I wouldn't want him in a Bills uniform even if he paid for his own gas.

 

He’s definitely a pre madonna.  For all intensive purposes, I think he a head case similar to AB.  Looooooooow self of steam with a huge Ego.

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4 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

One of his primary complaints in Pittsburgh was that they gave him the ball too much. :doh:

That was pretty much the moment I became convinced I wouldn't want him in a Bills uniform even if he paid for his own gas.


I can’t recall what he said in Pittsburgh, but this is what he said in NY:

 

"I've been playing in this league for a long time. I've always been kinda used to like, getting the ball 20, 25, 30 times," said Bell, who led the NFL with 321 rushing attempts during his final season in Pittsburgh. "Because that's what my body can handle and that's the type of player I've always been. Even in college, at Michigan State, I was getting the ball that much. 

"I go to the NFL, it's been the same thing. Isn't it funny this year, because it hasn't happened. I understand (the) offense is starting got come together, and guys are starting to learn, we got a new system, and new players up front and we got new coaches and things like that. But I think, for me, I would love to put the game on my back and take games over. I haven't had one of those games this year yet. But a lot of people don't think I'm the same player or I can't do that. That's because I haven't had the opportunity to really show. As time goes on, we'll get better, we'll find a way to make things shake." 

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In my opinion, bell is one of the most overrated players. He's good don't get me wrong. But his days with the Steelers were helped so much by the Steelers o-line. Being a "patient runner" usually means you have time to be patient, which means your line is giving you time. Look at how Connor came in immediately after he held out and produced right away. 

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11 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


I can’t recall what he said in Pittsburgh, but this is what he said in NY:

 

 

The season he held out in P'burgh, he was telling people it was because they were going to give him the ball too much and he wanted to protect his future value.

If he'd have tried to come back into the locker room after that nonsense, Pouncey probably would have beat his ass.

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22 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

One of his primary complaints in Pittsburgh was that they gave him the ball too much. :doh:

That was pretty much the moment I became convinced I wouldn't want him in a Bills uniform even if he paid for his own gas.

 

As far as I'm concerned, Beane and McDermott have earned the benefit of the doubt on player personnel matters.  Yes, occasional mis-steps but overall strong record.

If they wanted Bell, I'd be like "OK, maybe he'll be good for us".

 

If his behavior holding out from Pitts. didn't say enough, that bit where he was ruled out of a game with the Ravens due to flu on Saturday, and went bowling hours later.  In North Jersey they said "no big deal" but IMO - if you're so sick you can't play or might infect people, WTF are you doing at a bowling alley infecting people?  And just not a team-spirited way to behave.

 

I think he picked the team with the best established run blocking.  I can't blame him for not wanting the Bills as I'm not persuaded we can run block at this point.  There are few backs in the NFL who can make yards without expert blocking, and Bell isn't one of them.

 

Like I said, I would have been "benefit of the doubt, McBeane know best" if we signed him but I'm not sorry we didn't.  Poor fit IMO.

 

 

4 minutes ago, die hard bills fan said:

This is going to backfire on KC.

 

I think it's going to be a non-issue for KC on a one year deal.  It'll be "Fit, or Sit".  They have a strong locker room.  I think it's "McCoy Part Deux" where he really doesn't do too much for them.

 

But if he thinks he's going to get the ball 20, 25, 30 times a game in KC, he can think again.  Edwards-Helaire is getting the ball maybe 15-16x/game

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56 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

He’s definitely a pre madonna.  For all intensive purposes, I think he a head case similar to AB.  Looooooooow self of steam with a huge Ego.

He's living in an era of post Madonnas, Post Malones, in fact. Still wouldn't want a pre or post Madonna on this team, regardless. 

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With all the incentive to show up to the Jets in the best shape of his career, primed to dominate and show the Steelers wrong, he instead showed up to the Jets fat and out of football shape.

 

The only ones who should be worried are the Chiefs.  

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