eball Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Logic said: I predict a loss this Sunday. The Bills are good, and I believe they will make the playoffs, but this is not a good matchup. Cooper Kupp and Tyler Higbee are gonna have monster games if Edmunds and Milano aren't back. Aditionally, the Rams have a killer play-action game, which further highlights the linebacker/middle of the field deficiencies the Bills are currently experiencing. If the stadium was packed with Bills fans, it might be a different story. On what is essentially a level playing field, though? I expect a high scoring shootout and a loss for the Bills. Something like 34-27 Rams. It's fine. If you're going to lose, it's always best to lose to NFC opponents. The swing of tough AFC opponents coming up after the Rams game is much more important. Hopefully Milano and Edmunds are back for that. I find your logic paradoxically curious. Exactly how well do the Rams match up with the Bills' offense? They have two great players -- Donald and Ramsey -- and a bunch of "meh" otherwise. They have a first year DC. I have Rams fan friends, and they are anything but confident about this game. The one thing the Bills have going for them if Milano and Edmunds can't return is they now have game film to study and correct with the replacements. They also can scheme things a bit differently. The overall talent level between these two teams is either even, or slanted towards the Bills. McVay is the "sensitive genius" but I don't think you say the Rams are better coached overall than the Bills. This should be a tight game, but it's far from a "bad matchup" for the Bills. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, eball said: I find your logic paradoxically curious. Exactly how well do the Rams match up with the Bills' offense? They have two great players -- Donald and Ramsey -- and a bunch of "meh" otherwise. They have a first year DC. I have Rams fan friends, and they are anything but confident about this game. The one thing the Bills have going for them if Milano and Edmunds can't return is they now have game film to study and correct with the replacements. They also can scheme things a bit differently. The overall talent level between these two teams is either even, or slanted towards the Bills. McVay is the "sensitive genius" but I don't think you say the Rams are better coached overall than the Bills. This should be a tight game, but it's far from a "bad matchup" for the Bills. Fair enough. As I mentioned to another poster above, it's not the Rams defense stopping the Bills offense that I'm worried about. I think the Bills will score plenty. It's the Bills defense -- particularly if Edmunds and Milano are still out -- stopping the Rams offense that I'm worried about. Tyler Higbee had three touchdowns Sunday. He and Kupp, as I said, should eat against the suddenly porous middle of the Buffalo defense. My "bad matchup" comment comes from the fact that we will be facing a team with a good running game and a great play-action game and a surging tight end and slot receiver at a time when we are missing our two best linebackers. In terms of an opposing offense vs the Bills defense, that's about as bad as matchups get. It will be a shootout. We just have to hope the Bills can score at least one more point than the Rams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, eball said: Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Bills' postseason chances improve with a loss to an NFC team. It's all about the tiebreakers. I forgot all about that debate-- a true TBD classic. This discussion needs to resurface. Someone should bump that thread back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Victory Formation Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, eball said: I really don't think you understand how this works. Who said to use Diggs as a decoy? It seemed implied.. but truth be told, Diggs is so good that I could see him beating Ramsey quite a bit.. and Allen has the arm to get it there.. he may not get 10 catches for 158 yards but I could see 5-6 catches for 68-80 yards.. I think with a player like Diggs and a QB like Allen, even against the best CB in the business we should still see some movement there.. then you factor in Brown, Beasley and Knox and the Rams have a legit nightmare on their hands.. Diggs is too good to be a decoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) Also, we can say, “look what Fitz and the Dolphins did to our defense...imagine what Goff and the Rams will do if Edmunds and Milano are out”.. but Fitz was ON POINT. Gesicki was making one handed stab catches. Parker and Williams were beasting on Levi and one of them even smoked Tre deep. Our defense was trash but the other team still had to execute and the Dolphins did. Edited September 21, 2020 by SCBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Logic said: Fair enough. When predicting game outcomes, I look at specific matchups. To me, Higbee/Kupp vs Bills defense without Edmunds/Milano (if they miss another game) is a scary matchup. Also, the way to beat the Rams is to limit the run and not be as susceptible to play-action. Their whole passing game seems to be built off of play-action and run game success. If Edmunds and Milano are out, I see the Bills struggling to stop the run and, thus, struggling to contain play-action. Furthermore, we just saw Mike Gesicki tear up our defense. Tyler Higbee is every bit as good as Gesicki. Put a different way: the Bills defense was mostly unable to stop the Dolphins offense. The Rams offense is superior. The Bills just beat the Dolphins by 3 points. The Rams are vastly superior to the Dolphins as a team. I still see something like 10-12 wins for the Bills, I just don't think this will be one of them. Maybe I'm pulling this out of my butt, but doesn't McD's defense usually snap back hard after a let down game? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ColoradoBills Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 The comments from Daboll on how the WRs want everyone to get some catches is inspiring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: You can barely tell which team he used to coach TEs on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mannc Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Logic said: Fair enough. When predicting game outcomes, I look at specific matchups. To me, Higbee/Kupp vs Bills defense without Edmunds/Milano (if they miss another game) is a scary matchup. Also, the way to beat the Rams is to limit the run and not be as susceptible to play-action. Their whole passing game seems to be built off of play-action and run game success. If Edmunds and Milano are out, I see the Bills struggling to stop the run and, thus, struggling to contain play-action. Furthermore, we just saw Mike Gesicki tear up our defense. Tyler Higbee is every bit as good as Gesicki. Put a different way: the Bills defense was mostly unable to stop the Dolphins offense. The Rams offense is superior. The Bills just beat the Dolphins by 3 points. The Rams are vastly superior to the Dolphins as a team. I still see something like 10-12 wins for the Bills, I just don't think this will be one of them. I think there is a lot of overreaction to the Bills' defensive performance yesterday. Fitz has done that to a lot of teams, especially when he's playing from behind. And for whatever reason, defenses around the league are struggling to keep up with the offenses. Look around, there really haven't been any great defensive performances. This was a great defense last year and they really didn't lose much in terms of personnel. They did not mysteriously become a crappy unit, even without Milano and Edmunds. They will absolutely bounce back, maybe this week. Edited September 21, 2020 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Concussion protocol? Someone Knoxed him out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runningaces Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Bills by 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 This rams offense only put up 20 on Dallas, and the eagles aren’t exactly all that. I mean their offense is good but I don’t see them as some unstoppable juggernaut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 😂 sorry if duplicated https://sports.yahoo.com/rams-open-2-5-point-124415446.html The Los Angeles Rams have once again started the season 2-0, the third year in a row they’ve done so. After two statement wins against the NFC East’s two best teams, the Rams have established themselves as legitimate umm that’s not saying a lot. Dallas is bad, Washington is bad, Philadelphia is bad and the NY Giants are bad. SMH The Bills have also started the season strong, but their two wins came against the Jets and Dolphins – who are viewed as two of the weaker teams in the NFL. They haven’t faced anyone like the Rams yet, with a defense that features Jalen Ramsey and Aaron Donald, and an offense with the playmakers that L.A. possesses. Oh the irony!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Concussion protocol? Someone Knoxed him out? McDermott after the fumble? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Coot Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Hope we win this one. I don't expect to see a lot of deep balls from Josh in this game. Two reasons: Aaron Donald (as in get the ball out quick) plus Rams' DC will try to take away our passing game. They now have two weeks of film on our passing game. I hope we bring a strong running game with us because we'll need it both to move the ball & loosen up the Rams' pass D. Our best chance on O is to run an O the Rams haven't anticipated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirAllenPower Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Logic said: I'm not worried about the Bills scoring on the Rams. I'm worried about the Bills not being able to stop the Rams offense. It will be a shootout, as I said. I mean...I'm gonna pump the brakes a little bit here. Our offense has looked pretty impressive, but it HAS been against two of the worst teams in the league. Even the Dolphins defense, which isn't very good, held the Bills to two consecutive three-and-outs in the third quarter yesterday. Good? Yes. Unstoppable? I think it's too early to say on that one. What are you going to do when he throws for 500 yards vs the rams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Turn Duke into a TE.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirAllenPower Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Logic said: I'm not worried about the Bills scoring on the Rams. I'm worried about the Bills not being able to stop the Rams offense. It will be a shootout, as I said. I mean...I'm gonna pump the brakes a little bit here. Our offense has looked pretty impressive, but it HAS been against two of the worst teams in the league. Even the Dolphins defense, which isn't very good, held the Bills to two consecutive three-and-outs in the third quarter yesterday. Good? Yes. Unstoppable? I think it's too early to say on that one. You go ahead and pump the breaks. Josh Allen will keep the foot on the gas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Maybe I'm pulling this out of my butt, but doesn't McD's defense usually snap back hard after a let down game? They likely will if Edmunds and Milano are healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I heard the clip. He added left guard in because if he just said right guard it would be a clear indictment of his players at that position. It softens the blow to include all guard positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 wasn’t really sure where to put this tweet. Pretty damn cool! 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Bills gave up 15 4th Q points to the Dolphins.... Levi Wallace is scheduled for debridement and grafting of his 60% BSA full thickness burns at Jackson Memorial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Also, we can say, “look what Fitz and the Dolphins did to our defense...imagine what Goff and the Rams will do if Edmunds and Milano are out”.. but Fitz was ON POINT. Gesicki was making one handed stab catches. Parker and Williams were beasting on Levi and one of them even smoked Tre deep. Our defense was trash but the other team still had to execute and the Dolphins did. Williams had one catch for like 5 yards yesterday. He was awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaLoko Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 10 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Bills season so far like a college football schedule, a couple cupcakes to start the year. The real season starts now. really?? college cupcakes? I bet you played in college Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Whatever it takes to win 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, BuffaLoko said: really?? college cupcakes? I bet you played in college Yeah, Jets and Dolphins is like Ohio State scheduling UB a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) Edited September 21, 2020 by Warcodered 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) i said the game shouldnt and wont change against miami and i will say the same for rams other then blocking and play action. donald has to be chipped every time. period play action has to be at a min.. this defense is to fast Edited September 22, 2020 by PrimeTime101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: i said the game shouldnt and wont change against miami and i will say the same for rams other then blocking and play action. donald has to be chipped every time. period play action has to be at a min.. this defense is to fast Keep the same game plan and come with a good steady pass rush. Goff can get rattled. The Rams strength is their run game. If the Bills want to win we will have to stop the run game. Stack the box and if Edmunds is available have him cover Higbee. Put White on Woods and give Wallace safety help on Kupp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafi$ Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Rams injury updates, per Sean McVay RB Malcolm Brown has a fractured pinky that was fixed today, he'll be available to play Sunday. RB Cam Akers separated some rib cartilage and will be day-to-day LG Joe Noteboom has a calf strain, will be out Sunday. Possible IR candidat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: That's a great insightful comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 hours ago, SCBills said: Also, we can say, “look what Fitz and the Dolphins did to our defense...imagine what Goff and the Rams will do if Edmunds and Milano are out”.. but Fitz was ON POINT. Gesicki was making one handed stab catches. Parker and Williams were beasting on Levi and one of them even smoked Tre deep. Our defense was trash but the other team still had to execute and the Dolphins did. Just because Fitz had a good day against our defense doesn’t necessarily means that Goff will have the same success , and yes even Tre will get beat deep sometimes just as Gilmore did yesterday , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PrimeTime101 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 51 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Keep the same game plan and come with a good steady pass rush. Goff can get rattled. The Rams strength is their run game. If the Bills want to win we will have to stop the run game. Stack the box and if Edmunds is available have him cover Higbee. Put White on Woods and give Wallace safety help on Kupp. your reply to my post has nothing to do with offense. so i dont no where your coming at here other then i agree with everything you said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: In NO way is this accurate. We’ve won our 1st 2 Division games in a sport where winning the Division is paramount to playing home games in January with a chance at a title. How many Division titles have we had this century? If anything, the Rams game is one we can lose and still be contending for a division championship. don’t really disagree, I just meant in terms of caliber of opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) I think the Rams catch a huge break with no Buffalo fan noise. Still, the Bills will prevail. Bills 24 Rams 20 Edited September 22, 2020 by Bob in STL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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