Stenbar Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, ngbills said: I can only assume the coaches see him in practice. But in game action his kicks are all over the place. Rarely is it right through the uprights. Seems like he has leg strength but accuracy issues. Sounds like our Quarterback lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 52 is a long kick for a rookie in "these conditions" good thing JA is built for these conditions. Touchdowns win games. I dont care about the kicker when we arent getting to the endzone for 6. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 We should cut bass didn’t kick it into end zone lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Come on Diggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I say we make Bass earn his keep. Make him go for a FG from here and then kick a good onside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 47 minutes ago, Mr. K said: 52 is a long kick for a rookie in "these conditions" good thing JA is built for these conditions. Touchdowns win games. I dont care about the kicker when we arent getting to the endzone for 6. Bingo. Bass didn't go 3 & out or fail to move the ball. He didn't have anything to do with the offense that couldn't capitalize on the few stops our defense DID make. And he surely wasn't 9/21 for 66 yards mid 4th quarter... We were lucky to even get that turnover in the last seconds of the half. Even if he nailed it, nothing would've changed considering how inept the offense was & how bad our defense was manhandled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Bingo.Bass didn't go 3 & out or fail to move the ball. He didn't have anything to do with the offense that couldn't capitalize on the few stops our defense DID make. And he surely wasn't 9/21 for 66 yards mid 4th quarter... We were lucky to even get that turnover in the last seconds of the half. Even if he nailed it, nothing would've changed considering how inept the offense was & how bad our defense was manhandled. All immaterial to this discussion. He's the kicker. No matter what transpired to lead to the kicker onto the field for an attempt, he has one job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 To all those defending him: he has ONE job. ONE. And he didn’t miss that by a couple feet. A missed score can change everything. that said, it’s not his fault we lost. I’m on to hating Leslie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 The Bass miss was tough because I thought one of the benefits of having a young kicker with a big leg is to make 52-yarders like that. He does us no good if he has a big leg and is missing by 30 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 44 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Bingo. Bass didn't go 3 & out or fail to move the ball. He didn't have anything to do with the offense that couldn't capitalize on the few stops our defense DID make. And he surely wasn't 9/21 for 66 yards mid 4th quarter... We were lucky to even get that turnover in the last seconds of the half. Even if he nailed it, nothing would've changed considering how inept the offense was & how bad our defense was manhandled. Huh? Bass was on the field for his one job and failed again. What led up to his failure is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Most nfl kickers kick from a specific hash on xps not just him Even if he's bad from the right hash all kickers kick from their best hash on xps. Nobody really goes dead center if you look at his kicks most drift to the right and just doesn't make the adjustment on the kicks that are from the other hash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said: if you look at his kicks most drift to the right and just doesn't make the adjustment on the kicks that are from the other hash The ones he made today he booted pretty dead center I think a sample size of less than 10 NFL fgs is premature He has a huge leg and he's been drilling extra points lately He had to work out some nerves. He may be not good but he could turn out to be good. It was terrible conditions today, even butker missed an xp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I get it, the Ralph is a tough place to kick with the way the winds whip in there. Today was tough with the rain as well. But its doesnt excuse a kick being 20 yards wide. If you look at the Bills kickers through the last 30 years, they have all had to get used to changing their style to match the unusual conditions at home. He seems to miss wide right a lot so starting from the right hash mark is a problem. But thats his one job (along with kickoffs) so why hasnt he learned to adjust for the conditions?. It really pisses me off that we even have to have a new kicker, Hauschka was awesome until that dirty hit vs the Jets ruined his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I mean not for nothing but did we even get to see a replay of the hold on the one he missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: Now on sale!! I think it needs to go to the right a little further. I havent seen a kick that bad in a long long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, HurlyBurly51 said: Huh? Bass was on the field for his one job and failed again. What led up to his failure is irrelevant. He made one of two and think KC only ran one kick out of the end zone so to say he failed is a huge over reach. Particularly when the one miss was from 52 yards in the rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: He made one of two and think KC only ran one kick out of the end zone so to say he failed is a huge over reach. Particularly when the one miss was from 52 yards in the rain. Oh, 50% is a measure of success now? Good to know. You make it or you don't. He didn't - fail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 30 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: Now on sale!! Inspired! Well played, sir! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: Oh, 50% is a measure of success now? Good to know. You make it or you don't. He didn't - fail! Well from that distance only about 60% are made to start with and there isn't an extra start I could find for in the rain, which I'd imagine would drop that 60% under 50% I guess by your logic if they send him in to make a 70 yarder and he misses, he failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I’m all about patience with a young kicker. They all have struggles, but that 52 yard miss was so far off. It’s hard for me to have any confidence in him when you see a kick that far off. He plenty of adjustments he needs to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Rumor has it that his FG is still in the air going right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkx2 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 The 52 yarder was so wide it came through my living room knocking over a lamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 It's almost like picking up a guy who has trouble in bad weather was a mistake. His scouting report has been dead on so far. TBF though his holder is a clown and has probably contributed to a dozen missed kicks since he's been here. I was waiting for the hold replay today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Well from that distance only about 60% are made to start with and there isn't an extra start I could find for in the rain, which I'd imagine would drop that 60% under 50% I guess by your logic if they send him in to make a 70 yarder and he misses, he failed. I got him at 66% for the year, by that logic he has failed this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: I got him at 66% for the year, by that logic he has failed this team. OK so a rookie with no pre-season missed a 52 yarder in the rain, he failed. So what exactly is your solution? Kept Hause? How many 50 yard kicks did he miss. Think he missed two last week in fact. Bass is the least of our problems right now. Edited October 20, 2020 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I mean not for nothing but did we even get to see a replay of the hold on the one he missed? I actually replayed it a few times. Not a super clear angle, but I thought the laces were fine (pointing out at least at like 10:00). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I actually replayed it a few times. Not a super clear angle, but I thought the laces were fine (pointing out at least at like 10:00). regardless, the laces matter so little when a kick is that far right. Laces maybe make the ball drift a little. but this wasn't even close to having a chance. Having a kicker with a huge leg and 0 accuracy is like having a QB with a massive arm and........................😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: OK so a rookie with no pre-season missed a 52 yarder in the rain, he failed. So what exactly is your solution? Kept Hause? How many 50 yard kicks did he miss. Think he missed two last week in fact. Bass is the least of our problems right now. Hausch career FG % 85.2%, close to last year overall NFL success rate of 84.7%. 66% so far for Bass is pathetic. They should deduct points for how badly he misses. BTW, this is a thread dedicated to the topic of Bass, so whether he’s the least of our problems or not, it is the place to discuss him. There are plenty of other threads to discuss our myriad of problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: Hausch career FG % 85.2%, close to last year overall NFL success rate of 84.7%. 66% so far for Bass is pathetic. They should deduct points for how badly he misses. BTW, this is a thread dedicated to the topic of Bass, so whether he’s the least of our problems or not, it is the place to discuss him. There are plenty of other threads to discuss our myriad of problems. When you have a kicker who you cant trust, you start punting from inside your opponents 40 yard line. OR your calls in that territory become different. SO yea id say that's a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 12 hours ago, HurlyBurly51 said: Hausch career FG % 85.2%, close to last year overall NFL success rate of 84.7%. 66% so far for Bass is pathetic. They should deduct points for how badly he misses. BTW, this is a thread dedicated to the topic of Bass, so whether he’s the least of our problems or not, it is the place to discuss him. There are plenty of other threads to discuss our myriad of problems. Way to cherry pick stats! Lets not look at what he did last season, just overall career. Yes Hausch WAS a very good kicker for eight seasons prior until 2018 and 2019. Those two years his percent was 78.5% also below the league average. Last year was 1 of 5 beyond 50 yards and the year prior 4 of 7. And BTW Hausch first two seasons his stats were below 68% , took him until 3rd full season before he got his average up above the league average. When you've only taken 9 kicks hard to make much of any argument about stats so can throw out Hausch first season too as even more limited. One of Bass's kicks may have even been good, which when you only took 9 kicks, one more being good would raise his percent to around 78%, gee identical to Hausch last two seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 13 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: The ones he made today he booted pretty dead center I think a sample size of less than 10 NFL fgs is premature He has a huge leg and he's been drilling extra points lately He had to work out some nerves. He may be not good but he could turn out to be good. It was terrible conditions today, even butker missed an xp Beane should took Blankenship over Bass. That kid has kicked & kicked well in big games. Classic case of the Bills trying to get cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Way to cherry pick stats! Lets not look at what he did last season, just overall career. Yes Hausch WAS a very good kicker for eight seasons prior until 2018 and 2019. Those two years his percent was 78.5% also below the league average. Last year was 1 of 5 beyond 50 yards and the year prior 4 of 7. And BTW Hausch first two seasons his stats were below 68% , took him until 3rd full season before he got his average up above the league average. When you've only taken 9 kicks hard to make much of any argument about stats so can throw out Hausch first season too as even more limited. One of Bass's kicks may have even been good, which when you only took 9 kicks, one more being good would raise his percent to around 78%, gee identical to Hausch last two seasons. Bass is off to an inauspicious start no matter how you spin it, he's currently a problem. Beane got too cute on this one, but hey, settle for mediocrity there champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 13 hours ago, HurlyBurly51 said: Hausch career FG % 85.2%, close to last year overall NFL success rate of 84.7%. 66% so far for Bass is pathetic. They should deduct points for how badly he misses. BTW, this is a thread dedicated to the topic of Bass, so whether he’s the least of our problems or not, it is the place to discuss him. There are plenty of other threads to discuss our myriad of problems. I agree. Unfortunately Hausch has been worse then Bass n Bills had no choice but to stick with him going into the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I get not making a long kick in those conditions. But man, did that miss by a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 He just tried to kill it.....when his normal extra point kicking power is plenty. He will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 14 hours ago, CountDorkula said: regardless, the laces matter so little when a kick is that far right. Laces maybe make the ball drift a little. but this wasn't even close to having a chance. Having a kicker with a huge leg and 0 accuracy is like having a QB with a massive arm and........................😁 I do kind of wonder if the inconsistent holds habe affected Bass’ rhythm? I haven’t paid too much attention to that, but I can imagine that taking an extra fraction of a second to make sure the hold is good could influence his accuracy and headspace. Just a thought. 🤷♂️ In any case..... Improvement is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gordio said: Beane should took Blankenship over Bass. That kid has kicked & kicked well in big games. Classic case of the Bills trying to get cute. Eh what's done is done He's kicking in a dome, and has a long of 43 so far I don't know if he'd be good from 50 plus in our conditions. I know bass wasn't either yesterday, but he has the bigger leg for it Blankenship went from sunny Georgia to a dome. Bass from sunny Georgia to buffalo Tough transition Edited October 20, 2020 by Buffalo716 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 14 hours ago, HurlyBurly51 said: Hausch career FG % 85.2%, close to last year overall NFL success rate of 84.7%. 66% so far for Bass is pathetic. They should deduct points for how badly he misses. BTW, this is a thread dedicated to the topic of Bass, so whether he’s the least of our problems or not, it is the place to discuss him. There are plenty of other threads to discuss our myriad of problems. Hausch was well short from 49 the last game he played for the Jags...and missed a 24 yarder to boot. His leg is shot and has been ever since the cheap shot against the Jets. If he was here they wouldn't have even bothered trying a 52 yarder at the end of the half, they would have thrown a hail mary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Hausch was well short from 49 the last game he played for the Jags...and missed a 24 yarder to boot. His leg is shot and has been ever since the cheap shot against the Jets. If he was here they wouldn't have even bothered trying a 52 yarder at the end of the half, they would have thrown a hail mary. Just trying to see what an acceptable FG% is in the NFL, I know 66% isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: Just trying to see what an acceptable FG% is in the NFL, I know 66% isn't it. He is a rookie. We basically are going to take a few lumps with him. 9 attempts is a pretty small sample size. FG percentage is variable year to year even with the most consistent kickers and theoretically touchbacks/starting field position is the most valuable trait a kicker can give you based on expected points in a season. Over 80% is a good starting place tho based on your question. Edited October 20, 2020 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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