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2 minutes ago, blacklabel said:

Easy, junior. He'll be alright. They knew they were rolling the dice on a rookie kicker without the benefit of pre-season. I'm sure they're aware that they're going to have to live with the occasional miss on a kick that should be good. Kicking ain't easy. Let the kid settle in and get some games under his belt before you go chasing him out of town. 

 

I suggest we make his next 50-100 kicks extra points and kickoffs to help him get the jitters out. Let’s just score touchdowns and let him settle in! Who doesn’t LOVE that solution? 

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Why do people insist that the Bills should live with a kicker who misses field goals because he’s a rookie? 
 

If it continues he’ll be gone. It’s that simple. 

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4 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

It wasn't just me.  But keep pining for Hauschka. 

 

There was a discussion of this earlier in the box.  The consensus was that you are wrong.  Pointing out this kid struggled kicking FGs in college last year isn't "pining for Hauschka"

 

Also, since the ball was never "between the uprights", but well above both--what you "saw" never happened.  In fact that's why not could not be reviewed.  But, sure, you "saw" it...

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1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

Why do people insist that the Bills should live with a kicker who misses field goals because he’s a rookie? 
 

If it continues he’ll be gone. It’s that simple. 

 

That much is obvious.  The point is to stop freaking out over one game.

 

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

There was a discussion of this earlier in the box.  The consensus was that you are wrong.

 

Also, since the ball was never "between the uprights", but well above both--what you "saw" never happened.  In fact that's why not could not be reviewed.  But, sure, you "saw" it...

 

LOL!  Yeah, whatever you say, WEO.

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Just now, Doc said:

 

That much is obvious.  The point is to stop freaking out over one game.

 

 

LOL!  Yeah, whatever you say, WEO.

 

You missed it.  I kept waiting for you (or anyone) to step in and tell us that you "saw" the ball "squeak through the uprights" (which is pretty funny as an argument).

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9 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

That much is obvious.  The point is to stop freaking out over one game.

 

 

LOL!  Yeah, whatever you say, WEO.

Not sure anyone is freaking out. It’s just a noted concern and something to watch going forward. Those were two gimme FGs he missed. TWO. Not one.

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8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

You missed it.  I kept waiting for you (or anyone) to step in and tell us that you "saw" the ball "squeak through the uprights" (which is pretty funny as an argument).

As I told everyone at my 1,200 person backyard pool party/Bills watch party - if the ref standing right underneath the upright misses that call, we have bigger problems.

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9 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

You missed it.  I kept waiting for you (or anyone) to step in and tell us that you "saw" the ball "squeak through the uprights" (which is pretty funny as an argument).

 

I said it in the box right after Lofton, Catalon and the ref agreed it was a missed call by the refs. 

 

2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Not sure anyone is freaking out. It’s just a noted concern and something to watch going forward. Those were two gimme FGs he missed. TWO. Not one.

 

Nope, one.  And obviously it's a concern when you have a rookie kicker.

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1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

I said it in the box right after Lofton, Catalon and the ref agreed it was a missed call by the refs. 

 

 

Nope, one.  And obviously it's a concern when you have a rookie kicker.

 

You've already documented you saw something that didn't happen doc...it was above the uprights, not "speak[ing] between" them.  You imagined it.  

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On 9/13/2020 at 5:20 PM, Crayola64 said:


I mean, being 3/4 isn’t that bad on a windy day

Six for seven if i count extra points, which arent gimme kicks anymore.

Beane should have Haus on speed dial just in case the kid cant turn it around

 

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1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

You've already documented you saw something that didn't happen doc...it was above the uprights, not "speak[ing] between" them.  You imagined it.  

 

I didn't imagine it just as the announcers and ref didn't when they saw it on replay. 

 

BTW, isn't there a cam on the crossbar?  And would the all-22 show it?

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6 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I didn't imagine it just as the announcers and ref didn't when they saw it on replay. 

 

BTW, isn't there a cam on the crossbar?  And would the all-22 show it?

 

 

Come on doc.  You said you saw it go between the uprights.  In was at least well over the Right upright.  

12 minutes ago, Da webster guy said:

Six for seven if i count extra points, which arent gimme kicks anymore.

Beane should have Haus on speed dial just in case the kid cant turn it around

 

 

95% is a gimme

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On 9/13/2020 at 5:12 PM, stevestojan said:

Rookie? Yes. 
One of his kicks might have been good? Sure. 
 

Thank god we have the Dolphins next week. If he misses one next week, he has to go. 
 

There was no reason to draft this kid if this is what he does under pressure. 
 

 


 

Or maybe we just realize with the wild preseason - maybe the timing is just a bit off and we give the kid a chance to develop.

 

Every game (except GB/Minn) featured at least one missed FG or XP and my guess is that most of these guys needed a few more pressure kicks in the pre-season with real rushes to get the timing just right.

 

It was not just a Rookie/Young player thing (although several younger kickers missed kicks) it was veteran kickers too - like in Tennessee last evening missing 3/4 and an XP.

 

I don’t know how things will go as we move forward, but before I move this kid into the annuals of history - I want to be sure he is not going to be the next Gary Andersen or Hopkins that we lose out on for 15 years for 1 year of service by someone else.

 

In reality with a lack of preseason games - special teams was by far the most impacted group as it is nearly impossible to run a ton of full out kick-off and punt coverage/returns since the units share a lot of people.  FGs and XPs are a bit easier to do, but still lack the pressure, rush, and adrenaline of a real game and therefore it is hard to mirror everything.  This is why at most positions on kicks and punts - I believe the Bills greatly outshined the Jets.  It is a big part of the coaching plans and we had a ton of experience in coverage and returns.  The opposite happened at kicking FGs as we had no experience.

 

I will give him time as teams will be switching out kickers left and right.  If it continues- of course you change him out, but I want to see mor than 1 week of results. 

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Not for nuthin...

 

Fans always wring there hands and love when opponents have to come to Buffalo and play in OUR WEATHER.

 

Funny, because none of the Buffalo Bills players are actually FROM Buffalo.

 

One of the elements of our WEATHER is WIND - Swirling WIND.

 

Perhaps we could could give young Bass just a little time to become familiar with our Buffalo weather.

 

I have heard it spoke about that Hauschka was good in Buffalo because his kicks were low and thus not as effected by the winds in New Era Field.

 

Young Bass does not have such a low trajectory. Give the kid a little time before we run him out of town.

 

BassMissedKick.jpg

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53 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

Every game (except GB/Minn) featured at least one missed FG or XP and my guess is that most of these guys needed a few more pressure kicks in the pre-season with real rushes to get the timing just right.

 

It was not just a Rookie/Young player thing (although several younger kickers missed kicks) it was veteran kickers too - like in Tennessee last evening missing 3/4 and an XP.

Perhaps it's that new 'Brady Standard' that was quietly introduced in the off-season.  Balls are now inflated to lower pressures, and don't fly as well on kicks. 🤔

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26 minutes ago, cd1 said:

 

BassMissedKick.jpg

Am I looking at a football, or a case file from Project Blue Book? 🤔

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Hopefully it was all first game jitters and he'll be fine but I don't understand why people are trying to make all these excuses for him.

 

For example -- it was claimed he did fine because he made "6 out of 7" kicks.  However, all the kicks he actually made were extra points or essentially old time extra points (17 and 22 yard fg)

 

I don't think that McDermott is panicking but I am pretty sure he is concerned.  Otherwise he wouldn't have kicked the last FG just to give Bass some confidence.

 

Hauschka must have looked really bad in camp.  I was surprised that they did not decide to at least keep him on the practice squad.

 

 

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Does anyone have stats/data on how rookie kickers perform in their first season, versus how they perform the rest of their career?

 

I keep hearing about "first game jitters" and just to give Tyler Bass time to get acclimated into the NFL.

I would be curious if that is a legit excuse, based on other successful kickers around the league.

 

To me, kicking is kicking.  If he was successful in college, he should be find in the pros.

 

 

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Funny how people bring up the Browns miss for Hauschka considering it was his first miss from 30-39 in 7 years.  Hauschka missed only 4 from that distance in 12 years.  Bass is half way there in only his first game.  Hauschka also went 4/4 in the Playoff game including hitting from 47 with 5 seconds left.  You feel confident in having Bass do that?

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