ziltoid Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Poor guy. He could easily be Josh Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 4 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp-dolphins-brian-flores-friday-20200904-mz2i3rhk7jc6rj7gxhpxt42gra-story.html?outputType=ampĀ Honestly I think this guys career is over. This is 2 teamsĀ now thatās given up on him. I wanted him to succeed but i think itās over for him. Word is heās having a horrible camp and that Tua is beating him in competition for the number 2 roleĀ Ā So..........if I got it right, Rosen is owed almost $5 M guaranteed salary - $2.1M this year, $2.9M next year That's in addition to the roster bonus 'Zona is still nomming down Ā If he's having a horrible camp, just who do the Dolphins think are gonna pony up and trade to take on that $5M guaranteed? Ā 41 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: If you were the Miami FO and wanted to maximize the value of your soon to be castoff, would you let word out he was having a poor camp or a good camp? Ā Might get you an extra sack of footballs for him. Ā š Ā No one is going to trade a thing, even a used sack of footballs, for a guy with $5M guaranteed unless they're convinced he's got value 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflabillsfan1 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Not a Rosen fan but he's gotten a raw deal.Ā Two terrible teams with two terrible O-lines.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Back2Buff said: I don't get the narrative out there that he wasn't given a fair opportunity to succeed. Ā He was put onto two teams that had very little QB competition and couldn't hold the job with either team.Ā Ā Last year, Miami got instantly better with Fitz as QB and became respectable.Ā He was really bad with them. Ā He stinks, why is that so hard for people to say? Because far better players had far worse rookie seasons that he did. Both the Cardinals and the Fins were/areĀ dumspter fires. The fact that the team got better under Fitzpatrick should not be evidence against Rosen. Everyone should expect that. Fitz is a veteran and a very good football player who is one of a kind in his ability to be fantastic over just a long enough period of time to convince a team that he might be the answer to their question. In all my years of watching football, I don't think I've seen a high draft pick QB put in a worse situation than Rosen. That doesn't mean he even deserves to be a backup in this league, but it is what it is. Who dumps their 10th overall pick after 1 season? Edited September 5, 2020 by BullBuchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateHookerMD Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 RightĀ Josh - hitting the market. What a time to be aliveĀ Ā Ā 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Just now, PirateHookerMD said: Released Ā OUCH! Ā He will get picked up cheaper than his rookie deal would have allowed for. Heāll still be a backup somewhere and given a chance to right the ship.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Where is @KDIGGZ?? Come home, prodigal son... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: RightĀ Josh - hitting the market. What a time to be aliveĀ Ā Ā Brandon Beane choosingĀ 'Wrong Josh'...that's my GM! Ā 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Boy was I wrong about the Joshs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 38 minutes ago, soflabillsfan1 said: Not a Rosen fan but he's gotten a raw deal.Ā Two terrible teams with two terrible O-lines.Ā Ā Maybe hot tub boy got what he deserved Ā Karma has a funny way of biting you in the ass Ā Funny that two different teams felt that drafting another first round QB was a better answer than putting time into him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Obligatory post about belicheatĀ signing right josh on the cheap and turning him into the next Brady, submit replyĀ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Shaw66 said: Anyone still wish Bills had taken the other Josh? Not anymore.Ā But I admit the mistake.Ā Ā I viewed him as the smartest qb in the room, which is what I want.Ā I saw him as a petulant Arron Rodgers type.Ā But since his family is rich, (just like Johnny Manziel), maybe there's a lesson there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Obligatory post about belicheatĀ signing right josh on the cheap and turning him into the next Brady, submit replyĀ Ā I guess nothing is impossible but starting out as 4th on their depth chart could land him on the practice squad.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Did they really need to 'confirm' this? Obviously they would trade him as they're likely cutting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) Cards gave up the 10th overall for him. edit:Ā Phins a 2ndĀ rounder. Ā Ā Both teams drafted a qb first round the year after acquiring him. Ā Ā Funny how both teams had the beers goggles on for him!Ā Edited September 5, 2020 by davefan66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, davefan66 said: Cards gave up the 10th overall for him. Phins a 4th rounder. Ā Ā Both teams drafted a qb first round the year after acquiring him. Ā Ā Funny how both teams had the beers goggles on for him!Ā 4th rounder? Thought fish traded a 2nd and a 5th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 33 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Where is @KDIGGZ?? Come home, prodigal son... Page 2. Sign him so I can come back! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: 4th rounder? Thought fish traded a 2nd and a 5th My Bad. Ā Yep phins traded a 2nd for Rosen and 5th from the cards. Ā That is a bad trade! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Bills mentioned as a landing spot per Rotoworld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: Bills mentioned as a landing spot per Rotoworld. Wut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Bills mentioned as a landing spot per Rotoworld. š¤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Wut Itās the only way to guarantee we got the right Josh. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) You know what, I would put a claim in. I like him as a backup more than Barkley, and he has upside. Why not? Edited September 5, 2020 by HappyDays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Just now, HappyDays said: You know what, I would put a claim in. I like him as a backup better than Barkley and he has upside. Why not? I donāt think this regime ever liked him.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mramefa Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: Well, his rookie year in AZ, he played behind the worst O-line in the league, after which he was dumped as part of a re-build (a fairly experimental re-build, at that). Then, in Miami, he was literally positioned to fail. The Miami FO was so egregiously tanking that the NFL competition committee got involved. And, needless to say, there are plenty of Bills fans who wanted him to be drafted over Allen, and they hate to be proven wrong. Ā Of course, none of this means he doesn't stink. Ā Yet the second Fitzpatrick came in for Rosen, it looked like a different offense. How do you explain that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I donāt think this regime ever liked him.Ā Ā I agree but it also feels like they're not satisfied with Barkley as the backup. There are reports that Davis Webb may have won the competition. I see Rosen as an upgrade on either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, nrenegar said: Yet the second Fitzpatrick came in for Rosen, it looked like a different offense. How do you explain that? Fitzpatrick is a seasoned vet, and a better quarterback. Is that in question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Bills mentioned as a landing spot per Rotoworld. Ā That should spice things up around here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 7 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp-dolphins-brian-flores-friday-20200904-mz2i3rhk7jc6rj7gxhpxt42gra-story.html?outputType=ampĀ Honestly I think this guys career is over. This is 2 teamsĀ now thatās given up on him. I wanted him to succeed but i think itās over for him. Word is heās having a horrible camp and that Tua is beating him in competition for the number 2 roleĀ I think heāll bounce around as a backup or a fringe starter for teams that desperate for a QB.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, HappyDays said: You know what, I would put a claim in. I like him as a backup more than Barkley, and he has upside. Why not? Ā I said this last year when AZ wanted to move him. Ā I wanted no part of Josh Rosen as a starter in the draft. I'd happily take him as a backup. Ā Buffalo may be his best bet to stabilize his NFL career. With JA in control he can be backup #1, but with JA's playing style he would never know when he would be called upon. He would have to remain mentally sharp. Rosen is no dummy, but I don't think he has the heart/moxy to be a day 1 starter, but he is too bright/ proud to bomb out. He also still has a chance to play against Darnold and resurrect his career here, if he wants it. Ā I'd love to bring him into the QB room, now that JA has established himself as QB#1. Edited September 5, 2020 by RocCityRoller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Ā I agree but it also feels like they're not satisfied with Barkley as the backup. There are reports that Davis Webb may have won the competition. I see Rosen as an upgrade on either of them. Tbh I would rather have Webb than either barkley or RosenĀ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Letās not lose sight of what is awesome here. The Dolphins wasted Ā 2nd and 5th roundĀ picksĀ on a one season back up. 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 50 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: Ā I said this last year when AZ wanted to move him. Ā I wanted no part of Josh Rosen as a starter in the draft. I'd happily take him as a backup. Ā Buffalo may be his best bet to stabilize his NFL career. With JA in control he can be backup #1, but with JA's playing style he would never know when he would be called upon. He would have to remain mentally sharp. Rosen is no dummy, but I don't think he has the heart/moxy to be a day 1 starter, but he is too bright/ proud to bomb out. He also still has a chance to play against Darnold and resurrect his career here, if he wants it. Ā I'd love to bring him into the QB room, now that JA has established himself as QB#1. That way Josh can introduce himself. "Hello I'm mistake number 3." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: RightĀ Josh - hitting the market. What a time to be aliveĀ Ā Ā Ā Welp, Then.Ā Though I'll wait until it's confirmed. 54 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: Ā I said this last year when AZ wanted to move him. Ā I wanted no part of Josh Rosen as a starter in the draft. I'd happily take him as a backup. Ā Buffalo may be his best bet to stabilize his NFL career. With JA in control he can be backup #1, but with JA's playing style he would never know when he would be called upon. He would have to remain mentally sharp. Rosen is no dummy, but I don't think he has the heart/moxy to be a day 1 starter, but he is too bright/ proud to bomb out. He also still has a chance to play against Darnold and resurrect his career here, if he wants it. Ā I'd love to bring him into the QB room, now that JA has established himself as QB#1. Ā I think for the backup QB you have to pay some attention to the dynamics of the room.Ā I don't see Josh Rosen as having the right stuff to be a good backup. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Ā Welp, Then.Ā Though I'll wait until it's confirmed. Ā I think for the backup QB you have to pay some attention to the dynamics of the room.Ā I don't see Josh Rosen as having the right stuff to be a good backup. Ā Right Hapless. Fitz is the best back up for anyone want on any team.Ā Ā Peterman still in NFLĀ so anything can happen to Rosen for NFL. To be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 There is no reason to even entertain him here. Heās done. I wouldnāt bring his energy to this team unless I want to set this team back five years.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Ā Right Hapless. Fitz is the best back up for anyone want on any team.Ā Ā Peterman still in NFLĀ so anything can happen to Rosen for NFL. To be honest. Ā I could be wrong, but I think that Peterman is a pretty humble nice guy, super-smart in the QB room without coming across as cocky or know-it-all I think the only time that's true for Rosen is when he's being drinking Diffenbachia Tea Ā 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I donāt think this regime ever liked him.Ā Ā Agreed.Ā He was not on their list.Ā Neither was Baker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Ā I could be wrong, but I think that Peterman is a pretty humble nice guy, super-smart in the QB room without coming across as cocky or know-it-all I think the only time that's true for Rosen is when he's being drinking Diffenbachia Tea Ā Ā Agreed.Ā He was not on their list.Ā Neither was Baker. Ya peterman isĀ a super nice guy read online.Love those people in person. Just saying things in football Sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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