NoSaint Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: It would really be a shame if nurses, doctors, and essential workers started opting out of their jobs. Baffles me how a professional athlete can opt out while others are truly risking being exposed to the illness. So if he opts out, is he not going to leave his house or see anyone till a vaccine comes? Crazy, right? Essential workers are needed at work and guys playing a game for your entertainment can stay home because you don’t need but just want them. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Bigvinny said: He wouldn't even be there if he was going to opt out. Thats not necessarily true. He could very well be there undecided, probably because he's leaning towards playing, and just seeing how this goes initially before he makes a info decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 He's dead to me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: This is ridiculous, I’m an ICU nurse and these players are the healthiest population and if they are concerned about their kids getting it they too aren’t susceptible to it. If anything the players need to stay away from their parents. Enough of this bs scare tactics. Most of the population has it or had it and they didn’t even know it. most of the population eh? Bold statement based on nothing coming from someone proclaiming to be in medicine. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: It would really be a shame if nurses, doctors, and essential workers started opting out of their jobs. Baffles me how a professional athlete can opt out while others are truly risking being exposed to the illness. So if he opts out, is he not going to leave his house or see anyone till a vaccine comes? Is this a real post? The ignorance in this statement is astounding. The fact you just compared essential workers to adults playing a game for your entertainment is mind blowing. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Crazy, right? Essential workers are needed at work and guys playing a game for your entertainment can stay home because you don’t need but just want them. So your career determines your level of worth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Thats not necessarily true. He could very well be there undecided, probably because he's leaning towards playing, and just seeing how this goes initially before he makes a info decision. frankly I’d definitely show up to see the measures, the lifestyle etc... before deciding and I wouldn’t put paperwork in a minute early in case we had some noteworthy update. I wouldn’t be shocked by a small flurry of opt outs tomorrow if this week hasn’t impressed players. No idea if that’s the case though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Guess we'll see what happens. That would be a big loss. But other teams are dealing with it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 So he showed up and decided to be around literally hundreds of people in the building, but now is concerned about doing what is right for his family.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 57 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Who wouldn't love to tell their employer they don't think it's a good idea to come to work this year.....and here's my winter address to send me my $150,000 salary! Except is is not a salary but an advance and you know that so you are trolling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Back2Buff said: So your career determines your level of worth? It’s all a risk/reward equation. The services you provide certainly effect the risks you should or should not take. Though we should do our best to mitigate those risks across the board (within reason) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: He's dead to me You were never alive to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, NoSaint said: It’s all a risk/reward equation. The services you provide certainly effect the risks you should or should not take. Though we should do our best to mitigate those risks across the board (within reason) *affect* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: So he showed up and decided to be around literally hundreds of people in the building, but now is concerned about doing what is right for his family.... who knows how many he exposed himself to... he could’ve kept pretty reserved with it. And doing it for a few days is definitely different than months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: This is ridiculous, I’m an ICU nurse and these players are the healthiest population and if they are concerned about their kids getting it they too aren’t susceptible to it. If anything the players need to stay away from their parents. Enough of this bs scare tactics. Most of the population has it or had it and they didn’t even know it. I feel for you -- I am married to an ICU Nurse & I myself am an "essential" worker (in a different field of work). We both have gone to work daily - we realize that we face increased odds of greater exposure than most people - however, our jobs are of the nature that many, many people count on use to do our jobs so that they can have the "privilege" of quarantining. Both of us have been routinely tested & have remained "negative". Our 4 children have also remained healthy. We have no elderly parents to worry about - everyone's individual situation is unique. I realize that the job of "football player" is clearly not an essential job. I also do not begrudge anyone who has the option of 'opting out" of work for choosing to do so. I just see that if proper procedures are observed - even professions that do not allow for continual social distancing can be run without COVID-19 running rampant through the workplace. Good luck to Tre White - I hope he does what is best for him & his family. Thank you to all of you who have been, and continue to be, on the front lines - allowing society to continue safely functioning (as much as possible) during this pandemic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, nucci said: Are championships that are won with certain players not playing because of injuries come with a stigma? Did you see the false positive for Stafford? Normal injury, no. But if players are held out of important games and it turns out to be from a false positive you better believe this season comes with an asterisk to the winner. Not just that, let’s say a player comes out covid positive and the Bills played them the week before. Do we then have to quarantine? Many things like this will come up all season long. You think i want a greasy season right when the Bills seem to be ready for that next step? Heck no. But unfortunately, here we are. Full greez. Edited August 5, 2020 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Nothing "greasy" about it at all. It's the 2020 season. There will be a champion, if it is actually played. I would just delay the season until Jan 1 and play spring ball. Start 2021 season Nov 1 and 2022 as normal. That gives players a break between the super Bowl in May 2021 and the new season Nov 1 2021. Allow the opt outs to reconsider given the new start date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Selfishly, I hope Tre plays. But I won’t hold it against any player that opts out this season. Even someone crucial like Josh Allen. Many of us have had to make tough decisions because of this virus. I know I certainly have. Tre opting out would leave quite a hole to fill, but I have faith in McDermott when it comes to his defense. I’m confident that he’d find a way to still field a good secondary + defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, scribo said: I'm watching it right now. Sounds like he wants a new deal now and this is a bargaining chip. I believe he is supposedly required to decided by tomorrow. Good. Barnwell has him in the HOF category already. Bargain, young man, get a deal now, let us pay you for another 4 good seasons, and then whatever happens, happens. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29589146/projecting-future-hall-famers-all-32-nfl-teams AFC EAST Buffalo Bills In the running (40% to 69%): CB Tre'Davious White. White got his just due last season and was named a first-team All-Pro while tying for the league lead in interceptions (six). The former LSU corner was already a star on the field after his 2018 campaign, but getting that first nod is usually tougher than getting invited back. Of the nine corners who have debuted since the NFL-AFL merger and made the Hall of Fame, just two had been a first-team All-Pro by their third season, which puts White in good company alongside Rod Woodson and then-corner Ronnie Lott. Work to do (10% to 39%): LB Tremaine Edmunds. The star inside linebacker made his first Pro Bowl last season, which is incredible given that it was his age-21 season. Of the seven players eligible for the Hall of Fame who made it to the Pro Bowl in their age-21 campaign, six are in the Hall. One issue: Five of those six are running backs, with Randy Moss as the only exception. Inside linebackers generally need to become Defensive Player of the Year candidates and earn multiple first-team All-Pro appearances to get serious consideration for Canton, but Edmunds is off to a great start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Even in this pandemic, 25 years old is very difficult age to give away as an NFL player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Nothing "greasy" about it at all. It's the 2020 season. There will be a champion, if it is actually played. I would just delay the season until Jan 1 and play spring ball. Start 2021 season Nov 1 and 2022 as normal. That gives players a break between the super Bowl in May 2021 and the new season Nov 1 2021. Allow the opt outs to reconsider given the new start date. If someone beat us because Allen was held out of and important game with a false positive would you consider it fair? I dont think many many people would. With that said id be into a delay. Give the NFL and teams more time to get it right. I feel right now things are being rushed and will lead to many mistakes and issues down the line. Edited August 5, 2020 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, NoSaint said: frankly I’d definitely show up to see the measures, the lifestyle etc... before deciding and I wouldn’t put paperwork in a minute early in case we had some noteworthy update. I wouldn’t be shocked by a small flurry of opt outs tomorrow if this week hasn’t impressed players. No idea if that’s the case though. Totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, njbuff said: Even in this pandemic, 25 years old is very difficult age to give away as an NFL player. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Tre opting out would be the biggest loss for any NFL team so far. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, NoSaint said: who knows how many he exposed himself to... he could’ve kept pretty reserved with it. And doing it for a few days is definitely different than months. He may of kept it reserved, but having a fear for your family's safety and exposing yourself to the virus at all makes no sense to me. For the most part he will be with the same people he will come into contact with everyday the entire season, except one day a week. I see absolutely no sense in being that worried about your family, exposing yourself to a bunch of new people, and then deciding after two weeks the fear is too much. You think Tre isnt going shopping? Not ever going out to eat? Quarantining 24-7 to ensure his family's safety. Give me a break. At some point we all need to measure the truth, and not continue living by fear. And if these guys are really that scared, shut the mother down. Edited August 5, 2020 by thenorthremembers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Pay him what he deserves and he’ll play. Love this kid and we need him to win it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 I get it. I have said that I wouldn’t begrudge guys for opting out and I won’t. Tre is in the verge of a massive deal. I get him not wanting to go into a season with limited camp, no preseason and an international pandemic going on. This year will do more damage to players than most. That’s pretty much inevitable. Now, if the Bills turned around and signed Tre to a massive deal I wouldn’t be mad. It’s inevitably coming anyways. That security will almost inevitably force him to opt in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 If we hear Logan Ryan's coming in for a visit or agreed to terms later tonight - we'll know why 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Big C said: Tre opting out would be the biggest loss for any NFL team so far. Tre, Star and EJ would definitely be up there with the Pats exodus - They'd have more opt-outs, but the impact players are pretty equal when Tre is factored in. Prior to this potential move, i would put CJ Mosley or Ja'Waun James up there as the biggest loss. Edited August 5, 2020 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 This is a power play for money, IMO. This is only the beginning of money trouble with Tre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: What? Tre White is 25 years old and CB's do not last too long at a high level. Just ask Josh Norman. If White opts and when he returns, there isn't a guarantee that he will come back at all all pro level ever again. He is going to have to prove himself all over again to get a massive deal. Just something for him to think about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Rico said: Hope he’s not taking advice from Jamal Adams. He is -- if not directly, definitely indirectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: He needs to do what’s best for him. Team wise it would be a huge loss. But his health and family comes first. seems more of a contract trick than a actual health concern? I’m not sure waiting this year out helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, BillsVet said: You can't wait out a virus, although many are trying. You actually can if a vaccine comes along. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: seems more of a contract trick than a actual health concern? I’m not sure waiting this year out helps. If you listen to or watch the interview it definitely didn’t sound that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Opting out to the Franchise Tag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: If you listen to or watch the interview it definitely didn’t sound that way Yeah basically said the contract would work itself out in it's own time and he wasn't rushing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, soflabillsfan1 said: I take everything these guys say with a grain of salt. Tre could probably be talked into or out of anything. What is that supposed to mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Another perspective I don't understand. There is a better chance Tre gets the virus hanging out in Louisiana than he does playing in the NFL. If he gets the virus down there, he is not going to have the testing he gets with the NFL. If he gets it playing, at least he will know right away he has it. He gets it in Louisiana, he won't get test results for days. Best way to protect your family is to get tested the most. The virus is everywhere, it's not like him not playing means he won't be exposed to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: If you listen to or watch the interview it definitely didn’t sound that way I mean, he’s not going to come out and say it, but isn’t he currently in Buffalo working out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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