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12 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

Jim Beoheim's high school alma mater, correct?  Fun useless fact:  1982 the Lyons Lions beat the Falconer Golden Falcons in the NYPHSAA Far West Regional basketball game played at St. Bona.  I am getting older old.

Read it and share what's wrong with the info.  Please enlighten us.


Yep.  Jimmy B’s alma mater.  My Dad went to school with him.  They called him Digger as a knick name since his family had a funeral home business.   I don’t recall the 1982 season.  I know they had some formidable basketball teams in the 80s. 

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40 minutes ago, NoSaint said:


there’s no way most know the story. Not a chance.

 

I’m not even sure if we asked at the gate of new era we’d get a large majority that spit out the name Bill Cody, yet alone could speak to who he is. You think fans of other teams are rattling that off universally? 

I do and lived lived in 14 States, working on major projects which brought people from all over. 

Yes, I’m sure many who flip the turnstiles @ the stadium are unaware. That’s WNY. 

I stand by my statement.

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34 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

I do and lived lived in 14 States, working on major projects which brought people from all over. 

Yes, I’m sure many who flip the turnstiles @ the stadium are unaware. That’s WNY. 

I stand by my statement.


chandler, you know I like ya bud and a very thoughtful mod., but we have to agree to disagree.  Tons of people don’t know who Cody is, heck a ton don’t even know their own Senator or US Congressman.  The vast majority of the US has absolutely no idea the story behind the Buffalo Bills naming contest, as a matter of fact, the average person doesn’t even know there was a Buffalo Bills 1946-50, and was the Bisons in 46.  They also wouldn’t know there was a Buffalo Indians team in 1940, before the league shut down for WW2.  They also don’t know we didn’t get absorbed into the NFL from the OTHER LEAGUE LIKE Sf and other teams because of Halas.  He’s the one who blocked it.

 

It doesn’t matter as this radio host was just seeking out media hype on a non-issue.  There is zero chance the team even considers changing the name.  

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Yes he did fight the native Americans.  However, his feelings on his former adversaries greatly changed with the times.

 

The below is from Wikipedia...OK, I know...its Wikipedia, but still...among other things.

 

"As a frontier scout, Cody respected Native Americans and supported their civil rights. He employed many Native Americans, as he thought his show offered them good pay with a chance to improve their lives. He described them as "the former foe, present friend, the American" and once said that "every Indian outbreak that I have ever known has resulted from broken promises and broken treaties by the government."[24]

Cody supported the rights of women.[24] He said, "What we want to do is give women even more liberty than they have. Let them do any kind of work they see fit, and if they do it as well as men, give them the same pay."[73]

In his shows, the Indians were usually depicted attacking stagecoaches and wagon trains and were driven off by cowboys and soldiers. Many family members traveled with the men, and Cody encouraged the wives and children of his Native American performers to set up camp—as they would in their homelands—as part of the show. He wanted the paying public to see the human side of the "fierce warriors" and see that they had families like any others and had their own distinct cultures.[24]

Cody was known as a conservationist who spoke out against hide-hunting and advocated the establishment of a hunting season.[24]"

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1 hour ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

I'd love to be able to find some of that down here! 

 

It's around down here. Our Bills Bar before the move to Whitehall used to serve pounders. You can find it in a few different bars.

 

The funniest part is, with the big Craft Brew movement of the past 15 years, folks think it's a special delicacy-type of craft beer! I've seen it on tasting menus and draft specials. Little do they know that to us, it's the garbage our grandfathers drank and that we drank since it was all there was to steal from my family's garage when I was underage! ?

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23 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

If this the path he wants to go down 

 

There are probably other teams in line before the Bills.  
 

Chiefs self explanatory 

 

Buccaneers were pirates that pillaged the seas 

 

Vikings plundered and raped as they pleased 

 

Cowboys fought with Indians and took their land 

 

What about the Patriots? I hear it is a bad thing to be a Patriotic American these days...

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2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

It's around down here. Our Bills Bar before the move to Whitehall used to serve pounders. You can find it in a few different bars.

 

The funniest part is, with the big Craft Brew movement of the past 15 years, folks think it's a special delicacy-type of craft beer! I've seen it on tasting menus and draft specials. Little do they know that to us, it's the garbage our grandfathers drank and that we drank since it was all there was to steal from my family's garage when I was underage! ?

 

I was at Delilah’s in Chicago to qatch a game many moons ago, Bills bar, and they featured Blue for the game.

 

It was hilarious to hear how some patrons tried to pronounce “LaBatts”, most of them said it like “LOB-itts” ha.

 

And also, Blue was garbage beers in your house? Damn man, that’s some decent trash. We were pinching Busch and Strohs from my dad’s garage fridge ? 

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7 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said:

 

I was at Delilah’s in Chicago to qatch a game many moons ago, Bills bar, and they featured Blue for the game.

 

It was hilarious to hear how some patrons tried to pronounce “LaBatts”, most of them said it like “LOB-itts” ha.

 

And also, Blue was garbage beers in your house? Damn man, that’s some decent trash. We were pinching Busch and Strohs from my dad’s garage fridge ? 

 

I believe NoHuddle was referring to Genny Cream Ale. Hence the "garbage" label.

 

In my house growing up, Labatt was the KING of beers ?

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4 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:


chandler, you know I like ya bud and a very thoughtful mod., but we have to agree to disagree.  Tons of people don’t know who Cody is, heck a ton don’t even know their own Senator or US Congressman.  The vast majority of the US has absolutely no idea the story behind the Buffalo Bills naming contest, as a matter of fact, the average person doesn’t even know there was a Buffalo Bills 1946-50, and was the Bisons in 46.  They also wouldn’t know there was a Buffalo Indians team in 1940, before the league shut down for WW2.  They also don’t know we didn’t get absorbed into the NFL from the OTHER LEAGUE LIKE Sf and other teams because of Halas.  He’s the one who blocked it.

 

It doesn’t matter as this radio host was just seeking out media hype on a non-issue.  There is zero chance the team even considers changing the name.  

Look don't we have a bigger problem here.

Didn't the Buffalo herds technically belong to the Indigenous People. So that means the city name has been stolen adding insult to the Bill Cody story. 

Of course Sitting Bull was a chief who killed many of Codys friends so the Bulls name is out too.

Dang, the Labatts Blue thing is looking good.

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1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I believe NoHuddle was referring to Genny Cream Ale. Hence the "garbage" label.

 

In my house growing up, Labatt was the KING of beers ?

 

Whoops. I got all kindsa mixed up here.

 

 

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7 hours ago, SDS said:


so you are the guy who uses Bing?

Snicker all you want. I will neither admit or deny the accusation that will expose me as a Neanderthal. I am expressing my right to claim plausible deniability. ?

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26 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Snicker all you want. I will neither admit or deny the accusation that will expose me as a Neanderthal. I am expressing my right to claim plausible deniability. ?

??????????????

Lock him up!  Lock him up!

He won't be as smug when the Google Cops come for him.  The 21st Century's version of Johnny Fever's 'phone cops'.

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16 hours ago, Jerome007 said:

The Buffalo Table Smashers

 

 

 

 

Can't we watch sports without all that SJW and politic bullcrap?

 

No, and for your outburst you will be reprimanded to a re-education camp (think Clockwork Orange) where you will be forced to watch ESPN for 1 week straight.  After that you will report back here and tell us what is really important.

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13 minutes ago, 123719bwiqrb said:

 

No, and for your outburst you will be reprimanded to a re-education camp (think Clockwork Orange) where you will be forced to watch ESPN for 1 week straight.  After that you will report back here and tell us what is really important.

Along with a conditional draft pick to the New England Patriots.

10 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

Ahhh, gee. Just callin' a spade a spade. No reason for you to get misty over it....

He may be homely, but he was somebody's baby once...

(And everyone said "look at that huuuuuge kid!"  ?)

 

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On 7/13/2020 at 4:25 PM, DrDawkinstein said:

We'd need a far more Polish ethnic name than Bob. Maybe the Stanleys?

 

Imagine the amazing gameday chant at New Era: “Steeelllaaa!!!!!”

 

On 7/13/2020 at 4:51 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

PETA might have an issue with him as he killed thousands of buffalos, which is ironic. 

 

It’s not beyond the realm of possibilities. PETA already went after the Packers a couple decades ago. For those who don’t already know, their franchise name honors a canned meat company that agreed to sponsor Lambeau’s team back in 1919. Needless to say, PETA’s protests didn’t work. But the culture of 2020 is very different than it was back around 2000. So why not go after a team whose namesake gained his reputation by helping to slaughter a species to near extinction? The American bison population, after all, dropped from 50+ million at the time of the Louisiana Purchase to less than a thousand by 1900.

 

Well…as a proud PETA member but also an outspoken critic of their marketing department, I have to say that it would be incredibly pointless and would only generate more bad publicity and animosity toward our cause. We already have a lot on our plate at the moment (um bad choice of words?) and much bigger fish to fry (ooh there I go again!) regarding animal rights ethics. Besides, animal rights lobbyists don’t have nearly the same national clout that other SJW groups have. Vegetarians and vegans probably make up about 5% of the total American population, with most of that number not even watching football or knowing of the Bills’ existence.

 

I see others have already mentioned this stuff, but I’ll reiterate anyway: Native Americans don’t seem to be remotely bothered by this alleged Bills name controversy, either. That’s partly because Cody was a super popular American and a major advocate for Native American civil rights. But most don’t even know the team history or Buffalo Bill Cody’s history for that matter. The Bills name also pays homage to the popular 1946-49 AAFC franchise more so than to Buffalo Bill Cody, kind of in the same way that the red/white/blue team colors since 1962 pay homage to the old 1920’s NFL team. For these reasons alone, the name and the colors of the Buffalo franchise should NEVER change.

 

Now the Red$%^** name is an entirely different situation. It’s a couple orders of magnitude more offensive to Native Americans than Buffalo Bill Cody. The team founder, George Preston Marshall, was also one of the most outspoken bigots in pro sports history. So that doesn’t help…

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On ‎7‎/‎14‎/‎2020 at 6:21 PM, Jerome007 said:

The Buffalo Table Smashers

 

 

 

 

Can't we watch sports without all that SJW and politic bullcrap?

 

Unfortunately in today's "social media" world.....No, we can't. Sometimes I wish we could go back to 80's before the internet, cell phones.  I realize that would eliminate message boards like this one but I am also tired of the PC crowd and political mumbo jumbo every day.

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Honestly, its easy to avoid worrying about all that and letting it affect me.  

 

First rule is dont watch cable news.  Second rule is dont listen to for-profit divisive cage rattlers like Bauerle or Rush Limbaugh.  Ignore sketchy social media sources.

 

Do! pay attention to your local, county, and State politics.  Vote every chance you get.

 

 

I have yet to have anything taken from me.  If someday, my high school mascot needs to change?  I dont know.  Not worth a lifetime of effort resisting the day that might someday happen.

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This is all so stupid. 
 

- Patriots probably killed many more native Americans than Bill Cody.  

- Jets have dropped bombs/fired guns on people in war. 

- Saints are associated with the Catholic Church (which is associated with child molestation)
- Buccaneers raped and pillaged innocent people. 
 

These are quick and off the top of my head.. people can be offended by almost anything. 
 

That said, I do understand the offensive nature of the word ‘redskin’ and while it’d be weird, agree with the considerations to change the name. 
 

 

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Bart, but then chickens would be offended.  To playoffspoint, just about any nickname can be perverted into an offense.  I do agree Redskins is the one anomaly where even though it’s been the name for over 80 years should be changed.  
 

Things change.  I was watching a while back in the am before the gym, an episode from the first season of MASH ( classic in the first few years ) and forgot the doctor in the first seasons name.  I’ll just say Dr. Jones as I won’t use his first name.  It is absolutely offensive, but my point is just from 1972 to now, life has changed.  I’d like to think for the better.

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