John from Riverside Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, NoSaint said: john, you don’t get to insult anyone after your “the bills receivers are good and kelvin benjamin will ball out in a contract year” stance (yet alone several other hot takes in buffalos extreme favor). I think cam and BB could be an absolute tire fire with personality clashes... but the closest comparable in the league is probably Big Ben, who has been beat to hell and is 7 years older. Cams specific injuries could derail him but in general big guys that take hits and sling the ball around can still succeed. If he flops i think it’ll be a lack of WR and personality and not that he’s too old though. So.......you agree with me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Bill Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Is there some benefit in the fact that McD knows Cam's tendencies pretty well? It seems it should be of some benefit in scheming our defense to thwart him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, Georgia Bill said: Is there some benefit in the fact that McD knows Cam's tendencies pretty well? It seems it should be of some benefit in scheming our defense to thwart him. And don't forget that half our roster came from Carolina. It's gotta count for something. I think this is a bump in the road. It elevates the Pats to our prime contender for the division - but if we can overcome the psychological hurdle of 20 years, the Bills still have the better team and should win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Success said: And don't forget that half our roster came from Carolina. It's gotta count for something. I think this is a bump in the road. It elevates the Pats to our prime contender for the division - but if we can overcome the psychological hurdle of 20 years, the Bills still have the better team and should win. Hopefully Cam preforms just well enough to keep them in Quarterback purgatory where we were for so many years! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Georgia Bill said: Is there some benefit in the fact that McD knows Cam's tendencies pretty well? It seems it should be of some benefit in scheming our defense to thwart him. Yes, but also Ken Dorsey knows his tendencies maybe more than anyone Edited June 30, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 34 minutes ago, Success said: And don't forget that half our roster came from Carolina. It's gotta count for something. Hopefully P*ts staff does math as bad as you but I do not think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Cam makes NE dangerous. With Stidham NE was a shell. Buffalo are the favorites but still have to take it from NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 I'll admit, I haven't read all 21 pages of this, but I was listening to Marcel Louis-Jacques, and he noted that if the Pat********** let Cam walk, after 2020, they'll net... Wait for it... Wait for it... THE 3RD ROUND PICK TAKEN FROM THEM IN THE BENGALS FILMING SCANDAL!!! Yep... Effin Cheat-you-outta-a-check has struck again... Eff that withered, reptilian Sith underling... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Did I miss something? Did someone teach Cam how to throw and not cry like a B word? And did they wrap him in bubble wrap so he doesn’t hurt is ***** again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: john, you don’t get to insult anyone after your “the bills receivers are good and kelvin benjamin will ball out in a contract year” stance (yet alone several other all takes unwaveringly in buffalos extreme favor). Edited for accuracy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan20 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Success said: It's a loose comparison, but this is Bledsoe to the Bills. We were still trying to replace Kelly - and every single one of us talked ourselves into that being THE move. We were back, baby. Pats fans are doing the same right now. But like the Patriots of the early 2000's, it's our turn to be the crusher of dreams. The Bills are the rightful heir to the AFCE throne. No QB who refuses to dive for a fumble is gonna change that. Cam Newton at 75% is better than any other QB in this division (with the exception of Tua). This opinion is from PFF who created the sport. Edited June 30, 2020 by JetsFan20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said: Cam Newton at 75% is better than any other QB in this division (with the exception of Tua). This opinion is from PFF who created the sport. You can get CTE even if not a professional athlete. You should go for full test of CTE. PFF created what sport, competitive lying? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Penfield45 said: don't even bother with these people. half of the fans on here are literally delusional. this entire forum has gone to utter *****. spewing total nonsense at all times and whenever they don't like anything that doesn't fit their cozy narrative that the Bills are the best team in the league and Allen is the best QB to ever grace a football field they start throwing insults. ...you mad bro? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Do we really think this is a big deal? The only thing I dont look forward to is defensive players getting bigger deals for recovering fumbles and getting ints. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 To be the best, you have to beat the best. I have no problem with New England or any other team in the AFCE getting better. It forces the Bills to raise their performance level in order to beat them and makes for more entertaining games to watch. All good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, vincec said: To be the best, you have to beat the best. I have no problem with New England or any other team in the AFCE getting better. It forces the Bills to raise their performance level in order to beat them and makes for more entertaining games to watch. All good. Yep. McDermott is 0-6 against the Pats. By way of comparison, Brian Flores is 1-1 against the Pats, with a massively stripped down roster and being a rookie HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Coot Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Expect a healthy does of RPO from the patriots offense this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) On 6/28/2020 at 9:55 PM, El Guapo said: You do realize Cam played for Auburn, right. Ha ! Truth is if Cam can stay healthy he is a very dangerous player. But can he stay healthy ? Edited June 30, 2020 by JakeFrommStateFarm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, Happy said: Yep. McDermott is 0-6 against the Pats. By way of comparison, Brian Flores is 1-1 against the Pats, with a massively stripped down roster and being a rookie HC. Flores also has that record against the wildcard eliminated Pats where as McDermott faced a team that was in the Super Bowl 2 out of his 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Flores also has that record against the wildcard eliminated Pats where as McDermott faced a team that was in the Super Bowl 2 out of his 3 years. The Pats needed to win that game to get a bye and bypass the Wildcard round. You best believe that NE wanted to win that game against Miami. Being in the SB 2 out of 3 years has nothing to do with anything, sounds like another excuse for McDermott. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Just now, Happy said: The Pats needed to win that game to get a bye and bypass the Wildcard round. You best believe that NE wanted to win that game against Miami. Being in the SB 2 out of 3 years has nothing to do with anything, sounds like another excuse for McDermott. So are you saying the Patriots were just as talented this year as the 2 previous years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Warcodered said: So are you saying the Patriots were just as talented this year as the 2 previous years? I didn't say that. I just said that has nothing to do with anything. You have to beat the Patriots when you play them, how they were a year or two years or ten years ago is immaterial. In 2019 both Miami and Buffalo had to play NE twice. Buffalo was 0-2, Miami was 1-1, that says all you need to know. Stop making excuses for McDermott's inability to dethrone them. Edited June 30, 2020 by Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Why is everyone scared of Cam Newton? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Cam Newton had multiple seasons similar to Josh Allen's 2019. Most similar were Cam's 2014 and 2017. I did not realize how similar these would be. Maybe the Patriots staff gets more production from Cam and maybe Josh is ascending but this is certainly interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Why is everyone scared of Cam Newton? The media believes he’s going to be much better on the Pats than he was on the Panthers Edited June 30, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The media believes he’s going to be much better on the Pats than he was on the Panthers I think that, and they think he'll finally be healthy. Now, staying healthy is another issue. When healthy, Newton is above average to great, depending on the year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 if he can stay healthy they'll contend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 7 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Why is everyone scared of Cam Newton? When it comes to NE I am more concerned with Allen and the offense against Belichick and their defense. If the Bills can hold their own in this matchup then they should be 1-1 and maybe even 2-0. The Bills defense will be fine against the Pats offense no matter who the QB is. Also ST and who wins the turnover battle play a part as well obviously but the Bills O vs the Pats D is the key matchup in these games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 8 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Why is everyone scared of Cam Newton? Because sports media made up some crap that football nerds decided to believe. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Regardless of if there QB is Cam, was Brady still, or ends up being Stidham. The Bills still need to find a way to beat the Pats. With the roster they have constructed, if Allen takes another leap, they should at least split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, cle23 said: I think that, and they think he'll finally be healthy. Now, staying healthy is another issue. When healthy, Newton is above average to great, depending on the year. There have been plenty of years were Cam has been healthy and not great. He is just an average QB with injury issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 14 hours ago, vincec said: He was and apparently is a very polarizing QB, much like our own Josh Allen Agree to a certain extent. However as someone who is skeptical of Allen, it has close to the resume of Cam (Heisman, National champ, rookie passing records, MVP, SB), I would be fighting people arguing how good he has been. Those Auburn and that Panthers SB team were not that good. He carried them. 14 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Not when they have been beat to ***** like Cam Newton has and given the TYPE of QB he is....this is not ultra accurate the ball out instantly Tom Brady we are talking about....this is take huge hits hasnt played well in 3 years Cam Newton I probably have years of football on you.....your takes are aweful So you think he is going to change his game? He completed 68% of his passes two years ago and was having the best passing season of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 19 hours ago, inaugural balls said: Did I miss all the other offers? Perhaps. None of us are in Newton's inner circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Perhaps. None of us are in Newton's inner circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Now that he is in NE*, it will be interesting to see if Newton is protected by the refs and the league like Brady was. He took some brutal on field hits while in Carolina where no flag was (and should have been) thrown and that Brady never would have had to endure. He should benefit with an upgraded offensive line now but, if the league continues to look the other way while defenses light him up, he may be out of the league sooner rather than later. Either way, he'll have his hands full as there are no defensive stiffs in the AFC East, unlike the NFC South. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 16 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Peyton Manning the first year with the Broncos would disagree. One year removed from neck surgery he put up amazing numbers and went to the SB. He was a shell of himself 24 months later. One guy is an outlier. Name another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 13 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Edited for accuracy! Pats pot meet Bills kettle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I like Schefter and think he's credible, but I find it extremely hard to believe that the only other team to contact him was the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said: I like Schefter and think he's credible, but I find it extremely hard to believe that the only other team to contact him was the Browns. I don’t find it that hard to believe. Beane said back when he got cut that they didn’t even put a call in knowing that he wanted to start, which he said they respected. I assume his agent told all 31 teams he wanted to start, so that narrowed it down considerably. Then it’s a matter of whether you need a starter. At the time that he was cut, many teams had already signed FAs to come in to start like Tampa and others were waiting until the draft to determine their plans. Those that drafted guys like LAC probably want a different type of vet in place that doesn’t threaten the rookie. There just weren’t any seats left that fit both his interests and the team needs. The one that i find interesting is Jags not being involved, but that could be a straight up tank job this year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 I think the injury and surgery are more problematic than others. Lisfranc can linger much longer and if it impacts his ability to run he may not be near as valuable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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