stuvian Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8341291/Unnamed-NFL-player-sues-United-Airlines-woman-sexually-assaulted-harassed-flight.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 No mile high Club for this guy aye... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Standard LA all-nighter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 This isn’t a joke, and if there were no other seats, he would be stuck there since you can’t walk around on a flight other than use the facilities. United isn’t responsible for her bad behavior, but if the attendants didn’t make efforts to stop it by switching seats for him or at least giving a warning to the women, then they are responsible. I have too many women that are my friends and unfortunately family who have suffered from the same type of acts. I sincerely hope this doesn’t turn into a joke thread, because there is nothing funny about it. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 50 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: This isn’t a joke, and if there were no other seats, he would be stuck there since you can’t walk around on a flight other than use the facilities. United isn’t responsible for her bad behavior, but if the attendants didn’t make efforts to stop it by switching seats for him or at least giving a warning to the women, then they are responsible. I have too many women that are my friends and unfortunately family who have suffered from the same type of acts. I sincerely hope this doesn’t turn into a joke thread, because there is nothing funny about it. It isn’t right. You can’t just take advantage of someone because you want to and they appear capable of defending themselves. If this was the NFL player doing it to the woman on the plane it would be the lead on the news. This, along with teachers having relations with little boys, are the rare double-standard that men face. We usually get the benefit of these double standard but in these cases we end up as the victims. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Was the flight attendant this guy? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Well it was First Class... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 At least he did the right thing (outside of filing suit). If youre a big man capable of stopping this from happening; having the control not to throw her to another seat for repeatedly grabbing your cash & prizes is amazing. Theres nothing funny about invading another persons personal space. There is nothing funny about sexual assault. Back to my main idea though, the football player did the best thing he could've for himself by doing nothing. The airline could've switched a couple people. "Does anyone on here like the _(team name)_?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 23 minutes ago, Mr. K said: At least he did the right thing (outside of filing suit). If youre a big man capable of stopping this from happening; having the control not to throw her to another seat for repeatedly grabbing your cash & prizes is amazing. Theres nothing funny about invading another persons personal space. There is nothing funny about sexual assault. Back to my main idea though, the football player did the best thing he could've for himself by doing nothing. The airline could've switched a couple people. "Does anyone on here like the _(team name)_?" How do you know he was a big man? Could have been Roscoe. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustWinPlease Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Must have been really bad for this to come from it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, JustWinPlease said: Must have been really bad for this to come from it. Sure. John Doe didn’t want any obnoxious drunk “chick” touching him. And now, Covid adds a whole ‘nuther layer to safe sex...Dude didn’t want to be on that plane to begin with but he had to be somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Guy’s a hero. This has happened to me at least 20 times but because of my gender, I was afraid to report it. Thank you Vince Wilfork for your service. ?? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 WTH is wrong with people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: It isn’t right. You can’t just take advantage of someone because you want to and they appear capable of defending themselves. If this was the NFL player doing it to the woman on the plane it would be the lead on the news. This, along with teachers having relations with little boys, are the rare double-standard that men face. We usually get the benefit of these double standard but in these cases we end up as the victims. It sounds as though the flight attendants eventually moved the woman, but they were slow to take it seriously. Zero tolerance needs to go both ways. The problem with "appear capable of defending themselves" is if the NFL player did defend himself the headline could be "NFL player attacks woman passenger on plane" Really gross situation 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Guy’s a hero. This has happened to me at least 20 times but because of my gender, I was afraid to report it. Thank you Vince Wilfork for your service. ?? We know, you're not going to let an uggo touch you 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 If I had a nickle for every time some random woman massaged by grundles on an airplane... #hetoo 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It sounds as though the flight attendants eventually moved the woman, but they were slow to take it seriously. Zero tolerance needs to go both ways. The problem with "appear capable of defending themselves" is if the NFL player did defend himself the headline could be "NFL player attacks woman passenger on plane" Really gross situation I specifically used the bolded because I think that’s why it doesn’t go both ways. That’s a total assumption on my part but it feels right. When it goes the other way there is something to the “she was in danger” that just doesn’t feel the same way when it involves a man. Maybe that’s wrong but that’s how I view it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 I really appreciate the sincere responses. If true as everyone is innocent until proven guilty, the player might be ok ok with a sincere apology. I would as long as I feel confident it won’t happen again. Not people on this board, but the macho attitude you can’t be approached inappropriately if you’re a man is wrong. He wasn’t wrong, but I can tell you with my wife, I wouldn’t tolerate it. I wouldn’t hurt her at all, but I would grab her hand and say ENOUGH. Leave me alone. Again, he didn’t do anything wrong, and maybe she was messed up. Not an excuse, but just stop it. That girls hand would hurt if it was me, if the attendants did nothing, ok. Just send a message, you won’t abuse me. The crappy thing is how many women don’t or can’t have that ability. Thanks to my friends her who didn’t make this something silly. For my Cowboys Girl, I’m sorry you had to deal with that terrible behavior. I believe 99.9% of guys on this board would be on the other side seeing it, and saying, leave her alone or you deal with me. Not a breaking law guy, but in this case, I wouldn’t have a problem defending a woman no matter the consequence, God bless guys and won’t reply again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Well it was First Class... But was she? She later admitted that she had been drinking and had taken unspecified pills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: But was she? She later admitted that she had been drinking and had taken unspecified pills. Even Lindsay Lohan needs to respect boundaries. (Seriously though, I agree with everyone echoing the 'no means no' sentiment, no matter your size or gender) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 I once had a flight attendant invite me to rub her stockings....sadly didn't go any further than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 He could have just initially asked to go to another seat. The flight wasn't full. They never say no to that request and it's easier than trying to get them to move someone who doesn't want to move. Any reasonable person would not have sat there for that long while this was happening to them. No doubt the flight crew will have a different story than these two dudes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Well it was First Class... It was economy plus. 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He could have just initially asked to go to another seat. The flight wasn't full. They never say no to that request and it's easier than trying to get them to move someone who doesn't want to move. Any reasonable person would not have sat there for that long while this was happening to them. No doubt the flight crew will have a different story than these two dudes. Why should he have to change his seat? Why would he be responsible for her behavior at all? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, MJS said: It was economy plus. Why should he have to change his seat? Why would he be responsible for her behavior at all? She is responsible for her behavior (nor is the airline). He doesn't have to give up his seat, but moving to another one would have immediately fixed this for him. This is done ALL the time. Hewas in the middle seat in "Economy Plus", so he's not giving up much to move. Also, did he file charges on the woman? Sue her? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He could have just initially asked to go to another seat. The flight wasn't full. They never say no to that request and it's easier than trying to get them to move someone who doesn't want to move. Any reasonable person would not have sat there for that long while this was happening to them. No doubt the flight crew will have a different story than these two dudes. There's always another side to the story. What was linked to was his attorney's statement, so there is no obvious attempt to present the other side. Issues among passengers occur and are usually handled easily. If it truly got to the point a sexual assault was observed, the flight would have been met by authorities. Edited May 21, 2020 by sherpa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, sherpa said: There's always another side to the story. What was linked to was his attorney's statement, so there is no obvious attempt to present the other side. Issues among passengers occur and are usually handled easily. If it truly got to the point a sexual assault was observed, the flight would have been met by authorities. Or they didn't report that right away or were not taken seriously because they are men. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 minute ago, MJS said: Or they didn't report that right away or were not taken seriously because they are men. I don't think for a second that any kind of passenger misconduct is evaluated on the basis of gender. The other side needs to be heard before concluding anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 I had a friend fly up to visit. He hates flying and the doctor had prescribed him some Xanax. He then had some wine on the plane. Upon arrival we went out to dinner but had to leave early as he was completely out of control. He didn’t remember any of it. Don’t mix pills with alcohol, especially Xanax. I’ve seen it more than once, and it amplifies things like you wouldn’t believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: If I had a nickle for every time some random woman massaged by grundles on an airplane... #hetoo I will need to see what the lady looked like before responding any further. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 The woman was out of hand. The pills and alcohol loosened her inhibitions to an untenable degree. Flight personnel should have stepped in when made aware. If you are the NFL guy you don't want your name in the news for even the perception that you mistreated/abused this woman in anyway. If you are two black men, you do not want the perception that you've done something to this white woman, who is "drunk" and her perceptions are off. They were right to go to the flight personnel. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 50 minutes ago, sherpa said: There's always another side to the story. What was linked to was his attorney's statement, so there is no obvious attempt to present the other side. Issues among passengers occur and are usually handled easily. If it truly got to the point a sexual assault was observed, the flight would have been met by authorities. If she was obviously intoxicated before the door closed, they would have had her off the plane immediately. If this happened on a Greyhound bus, the guy (or anybody) would have immediately gotten up and taken another seat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 While there is a double standard here, creepy or unwanted touching is generally defined by how attractive the person is to you. This is true for both sides. I’m glad it’s reported though since it’s over reported on the female victim side and underreported on the male side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: If she was obviously intoxicated before the door closed, they would have had her off the plane immediately. The fine for knowingly allowing an obviously intoxicated person to board and fly is $20,000. Its taken quite seriously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Guy’s a hero. This has happened to me at least 20 times but because of my gender, I was afraid to report it. Thank you Vince Wilfork for your service. ?? How can you resist... overalls make it real tempting to just reach in there... 1 hour ago, Augie said: I had a friend fly up to visit. He hates flying and the doctor had prescribed him some Xanax. He then had some wine on the plane. Upon arrival we went out to dinner but had to leave early as he was completely out of control. He didn’t remember any of it. Don’t mix pills with alcohol, especially Xanax. I’ve seen it more than once, and it amplifies things like you wouldn’t believe. That explains why I'm banned from every restaurant and bar west of the Mississippi.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 8 hours ago, stuvian said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8341291/Unnamed-NFL-player-sues-United-Airlines-woman-sexually-assaulted-harassed-flight.html That is horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Guy’s a hero. This has happened to me at least 20 times but because of my gender, I was afraid to report it. Thank you Vince Wilfork for your service. ?? Stop bragging! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 8 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: This isn’t a joke, and if there were no other seats, he would be stuck there since you can’t walk around on a flight other than use the facilities. United isn’t responsible for her bad behavior, but if the attendants didn’t make efforts to stop it by switching seats for him or at least giving a warning to the women, then they are responsible. I have too many women that are my friends and unfortunately family who have suffered from the same type of acts. I sincerely hope this doesn’t turn into a joke thread, because there is nothing funny about it. Says in the article they moved her to another seat at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 hours ago, purple haze said: The woman was out of hand. The pills and alcohol loosened her inhibitions to an untenable degree. Flight personnel should have stepped in when made aware. If you are the NFL guy you don't want your name in the news for even the perception that you mistreated/abused this woman in anyway. If you are two black men, you do not want the perception that you've done something to this white woman, who is "drunk" and her perceptions are off. They were right to go to the flight personnel. What does race have to do with anything? Two white guys wouldn't want the perception that they did something to a black woman either.. Bringing up race just sets up back. We are all human 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 hours ago, JinxedBill said: While there is a double standard here, creepy or unwanted touching is generally defined by how attractive the person is to you. This is true for both sides. I’m glad it’s reported though since it’s over reported on the female victim side and underreported on the male side. I have to 100% disagree with you on this. So, do you think if a woman is groped and prodded and touched against her will she would be ok with it if it was some handsome dude. That is total BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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