Jets' fans complaining about Bills' media exposure

[Inigo Montoya]

 

I can't stand Buffalo and that bum QB that can't complete a pass; the media endlessly s**** off Allen and the Bills.

NYJFOREVER, Friday at 2:18 PM

 

This one made me laugh.  The post is from theganggreen.com, the Jet's version of TBD.   For fans that have watched the Bills treated like dog crap on the sole of someone's shoe by the media for the last 15+ years,  you just gotta love Jets' fans complaining about the media starting to say something good about the Bills.

 

The Bills got no media attention for almost two decades, and deservedly so.  We were a small market, dysfunctional franchise.  How many years did we go without prime time games?  How many times did they cut to commercial during the Bill's draft pick? Ten minutes on the latest Patriots win, thirty second highlight clip of the Bills' game on Sports Center.  When the Bills did win a game, the coverage was more about how the other team managed to lose than how me managed to win. 

 

Now things have changed. The Bills are a playoff team with a championship level defense and have added pieces to the offense this year with Diggs and Moss that should help score more points.  Allen is in the third year in the same system and should continue to improve.  We should also get more solid line play on offense. The Bills are clearly a team on the upswing.

 

On the other hand, the Jets are stuck in neutral.  If the Bills play their starters in Week 17 , they finish with a record of 11-5 on the season and sweep the Jets.  As long as Gase is coaching in New York, the Jets are a .500 team.  If Joe Douglas fires Gase after this season there will be a new regime coming in and the new coaches will need 2-3 years to get their system in place.  Bottom line, I don't think the Jets are going anywhere soon and the Bills have a real shot to win a championship. 

 

Gang Green Nation will just have to suck it up.

 

 

[BillsFan130]

Yep. Bills earned their exposure.

 

Even for a lot of ppl on this board, seemed like they were upset that the Bills never got primetime games or respect.

 

Quite frankly, the Bills never earned respect as they had mediocre year after mediocre year for 18 years

 

Now the Bills have earned their respect by making the playoffs 2 out of 3 years with an up and coming team, and what do you know, 4 primetime games.

[ehfeuh57]

5 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

How many times did they cut to commercial during the Bill's draft pick

 

LOL

Their TV rundown sheet must actually be labeled "Bills pick 3:00 commercial break" for the producers.

[buffalo2218]

I realize this thread will bring out the complainers about posting Jet threads or Jet info in general. But for me, I really don't mind it. A lot of the stuff I've read on their forums is laughable. I've seen posts here saying we shouldn't be saying there's a large gap between us and the Jets. It is true, divisional games are hard to win, against the Jets especially barring Barkley's beatdown a couple of years back. Arrogant salty jealousy is what they're about. As much as they say they can't stand Allen, they'd take his style of play in a heartbeat considering what they have going for them now, and that's not a knock on Darnold.

 

Both Allen and Darnold are talented in their own right. Unfortunately for Darnold, they're also a reflection of their head coach. Given Darnold's abilities, having Gase for a HC is really showing at this point

[EasternOHBillsFan]

35 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

On the other hand, the Jets are stuck in neutral.  If the Bills play their starters in Week 17 , they finish with a record of 11-5 on the season and sweep the Jets.  As long as Gase is coaching in New York, the Jets are a .500 team.  If Joe Douglas fires Gase after this season there will be a new regime coming in and the new coaches will need 2-3 years to get their system in place.  Bottom line, I don't think the Jets are going anywhere soon and the Bills have a real shot to win a championship. 

 

Gang Green Nation will just have to suck it up.

 

I'm not with you there at all. They got a new GM who seems to have a clue and that's not good for us. Giving Darnold protection and better weapons is not something we want to see, Gase or no as HC. They are not a .500 or below team as of now, far from it, and they will probably hand us a loss. Do not be remotely fooled into thinking that the Jets are anything other than competitive rivals who will be a pain in our side for the next decade.

Edited May 11, 2020 by EasternOHBillsFan

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

I'm not with you there at all. They got a new GM who seems to have a clue and that's not good for us. Giving Darnold protection and better weapons is not something we want to see, Gase or no as HC. They are not a .500 or below team as of now, far from it, and they will probably hand us a loss. Do not be remotely fooled into thinking that the Jets are anything other than competitive rivals who will be a pain in our side for the next decade.

 

Giving Darnold protection and weapons wasn't a revelation.  The question is: did he sign and draft the right guys?  That remains to be seen.

[Mango]

Fake news. I read it right here. Josh Allen is the most criticized player in history. 

[Tenhigh]

1 minute ago, Mango said:

Fake news. I read it right here. Josh Allen is the most criticized player in history. 

You would know, lol

[Mango]

Just now, Tenhigh said:

You would know, lol

 

I literally have no idea what that is supposed

to mean...

[Inigo Montoya]

10 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

I'm not with you there at all. They got a new GM who seems to have a clue and that's not good for us. Giving Darnold protection and better weapons is not something we want to see, Gase or no as HC. They are not a .500 team as of now, and they will probably hand us a loss. Do not be remotely fooled into thinking that the Jets are anything other than competitive rivals who will be a pin in our side for the next decade.

 

 

Fair points and I don't think there is a whole lot of space between our opinions.

 

The Jets record last year was 7-9 and would have been 6-10 if we had played to win in Week 17.  I think they are a .500 team this year, and that would be an improvement over last year.

 

I agree with you that Joe Douglas is improving their roster and the Jets are never an easy out.  I think Darnold is a solid QB.  They are a division rival and every game against them is tough.  I just think they are 2 years behind the Bills in the rebuild and Gase is an anchor on that franchise.  I don't expect Douglas to bring Gase back after this year and then they will be starting over again with a new coaching staff.

 

I'll stand by my point that the Bills are in position to compete for a championship and the Jets are not a playoff team.

 

Edited May 11, 2020 by Inigo Montoya

[buffalo2218]

1 minute ago, Mango said:

Fake news. I read it right here. Josh Allen is the most criticized player in history. 

Yeah, never understood the criticism myself given his production. It's always "his style of play isn't sustainable in the NFL".  He just needs to protect the ball better when running

[GETTOTHE50]

Let them be miserable on their own. Their team is garbage. Sam Darnolds number one is going to be a kid who Bucs fans couldn’t wait to get rid of last year. Their offense outside of Bell stinks. The offensive line theyve spent ‘rebuilding’ is filled with overpaid 2nd liners from other teams. Their secondary is complete ass. And Gase is a head case. They are going to have a top 5 pick this year and will finish last in the division. ***** them. 

[EasternOHBillsFan]

8 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Giving Darnold protection and weapons wasn't a revelation.  The question is: did he sign and draft the right guys?  That remains to be seen.

 

If you watched Perriman in the Bucs games in December, you'd see that the Jets made a very smart decision by signing him.

 

I was really hoping they would draft defense heavy as they have before, but they did not.

 

So long as Darnold is their starting QB, we must assume they are capable of giving us trouble.

4 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

 

 

Fair points and I don't think there is a whole lot of space between our opinions.

 

The Jets record last year was 7-9 and would have been 6-10 if we had played to win in Week 17.  I think they are a .500 team this year, and that would be an improvement over last year.

 

I agree with you that Joe Douglas is improving their roster and the Jets are never an easy out.  I think Darnold is a solid QB.  They are a division rival and every game against them is tough.  I just think they are 2 years behind the Bills in the rebuild and Gase is an anchor on that franchise.  I don't expect Douglas to bring Gase back after this year and then they will be starting over again with a new coaching staff.

 

I'll stand by my point that the Bills are in position to compete for a championship and the Jets are not a playoff team.

 

 

Although the Jets won't be a playoff team (which we both agree, obviously) they still have enough juice to compete and it's not going to be easy to play them. I'm not as hard on Gase as you are, so we'll see what happens... but if the team chemistry starts unraveling as bad as it did in Miami, then yeah he's toast.

[buffalo2218]

1 minute ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

If you watched Perriman in the Bucs games in December, you'd see that the Jets made a very smart decision by signing him.

 

I was really hoping they would draft defense heavy as they have before, but they did not.

 

So long as Darnold is their starting QB, we must assume they are capable of giving us trouble.

Only thing I don't agree with is Darnold isn't too much of a threat right now, and as long as Gase is running things, his development will take a serious hit from that. Firing Gase will help, but nothing will change overnight. Our defense kept him in check in both games last year, and I firmly believe Josh Norman will go back to being a top notch cornerback being back with McDermott. Yes I know the mono, lack of talent etc. But as far as anyone knows, even the Jets, nothing's changed yet

[Another Fan]

56 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

 

I can't stand Buffalo and that bum QB that can't complete a pass; the media endlessly s**** off Allen and the Bills.

NYJFOREVER, Friday at 2:18 PM

 

This one made me laugh.  The post is from theganggreen.com, the Jet's version of TBD.   For fans that have watched the Bills treated like dog crap on the sole of someone's shoe by the media for the last 15+ years,  you just gotta love Jets' fans complaining about the media starting to say something good about the Bills.

 

The Bills got no media attention for almost two decades, and deservedly so.  We were a small market, dysfunctional franchise.  How many years did we go without prime time games?  How many times did they cut to commercial during the Bill's draft pick? Ten minutes on the latest Patriots win, thirty second highlight clip of the Bills' game on Sports Center.  When the Bills did win a game, the coverage was more about how the other team managed to lose than how me managed to win. 

 

Now things have changed. The Bills are a playoff team with a championship level defense and have added pieces to the offense this year with Diggs and Moss that should help score more points.  Allen is in the third year in the same system and should continue to improve.  We should also get more solid line play on offense. The Bills are clearly a team on the upswing.

 

On the other hand, the Jets are stuck in neutral.  If the Bills play their starters in Week 17 , they finish with a record of 11-5 on the season and sweep the Jets.  As long as Gase is coaching in New York, the Jets are a .500 team.  If Joe Douglas fires Gase after this season there will be a new regime coming in and the new coaches will need 2-3 years to get their system in place.  Bottom line, I don't think the Jets are going anywhere soon and the Bills have a real shot to win a championship. 

 

Gang Green Nation will just have to suck it up.

 

 

I always enjoy reading your thoughts and posts.

 

But I think you may be looking too deeply into this.   Who cares what some random Jet fan posts or thinks on their message boards 

[Fr. Jerk]

I hope Adam Gase gets an extension, ya dig?

[Inigo Montoya]

1 minute ago, Another Fan said:

I always enjoy reading your thoughts and posts.

 

But I think you may be looking too deeply into this.   Who cares what some random Jet fan posts or thinks on their message boards 

 

Appreciate the kind words.

 

I'm not too worried about the Jets or their fans, I just thought this particular post was entertaining.  I go to the Gang Green message board from time to time and I post there too.  I don't troll there. There are some reasonable Jets fans out there to talk AFCE football with. My idea of fun has never been to argue with strangers on an internet chat board.  I work in an ER and deal with enough knuckleheads on a daily basis to go looking for that during my spare time.

 

I have gone there more often of late because I do think Douglas is on the right track and we are now in a Bills news vacuum, probably until training camp begins at the end of July.  Brutal....  

 

 

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

If you've ever been to New York and attended a Jest's game, you'll relate to my comments.  A high percentage of their fans are aggressive and mouthy until the wheels come off and defeat is in the air.  That's when they switch over to blaming the refs and making other excuses.  Many of them leave the stadium before the fourth quarter. Many of  them know little about the game in general, little about the rules, and little about the talent or lack thereof on the Jests.  They are a really sad group of fans in general.  For other stadiums that I have attended in recent years,  I contrast them to Giants, Steelers, Packers, Colts, Titans, Tampa, Falcons and Jaguars fans that are not like them at all.  As a result, anything coming from the Jests has no credibility from my point of view.  The media seems to hype them at the start of every season (probably due to the importance of the large market) but usually by week 5 or 6, they've all crawled back into their hole.  We should all be used to this media behavior and continue to disregard it.  After all, the only thing of real importance is the game results.

[Doc]

17 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

If you watched Perriman in the Bucs games in December, you'd see that the Jets made a very smart decision by signing him.

 

I was really hoping they would draft defense heavy as they have before, but they did not.

 

So long as Darnold is their starting QB, we must assume they are capable of giving us trouble.

 

That season-ending 3 week stretch was easily the best of his 5-year career.  Was it a flash in the pan or can he keep that up?

[TheyCallMeAndy]

They earned it with great primetime ratings and a QB who's very must watch TV. 

 

The "can't complete a pass" crowd is getting old.

[Warcodered]

8 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

That season-ending 3 week stretch was easily the best of his 5-year career.  Was it a flash in the pan or can he keep that up?

Especially with the Jets WR core surrounding him.

[buffalo2218]

5 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

They earned it with great primetime ratings and a QB who's very must watch TV. 

 

The "can't complete a pass" crowd is getting old.

Yeah, I agree. Darnold completes more passes to the other team than Allen, but I guess that's ok

[JaCrispy]

51 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

I'm not with you there at all. They got a new GM who seems to have a clue and that's not good for us. Giving Darnold protection and better weapons is not something we want to see, Gase or no as HC. They are not a .500 or below team as of now, far from it, and they will probably hand us a loss. Do not be remotely fooled into thinking that the Jets are anything other than competitive rivals who will be a pain in our side for the next decade.

Agree 100%

[MJS]

12 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

They earned it with great primetime ratings and a QB who's very must watch TV. 

 

The "can't complete a pass" crowd is getting old.

 

I've read a ton of posts from other fans that are very similar to this: "I thought Josh Allen sucked, but I watched that Cowboys game and he's actually pretty good." (Not always the Cowboys game in particular, but insert whatever random Bills game they happened to watch last year)

 

I think a lot of fans of other teams, once they watch him, realize that Josh Allen is exciting to watch and much better than people thought.

[Gugny]

1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

I'm not with you there at all. They got a new GM who seems to have a clue and that's not good for us. Giving Darnold protection and better weapons is not something we want to see, Gase or no as HC. They are not a .500 or below team as of now, far from it, and they will probably hand us a loss. Do not be remotely fooled into thinking that the Jets are anything other than competitive rivals who will be a pain in our side for the next decade.

 

Gase being HC is all I need to see.

 

I do believe that Allen and Darnold are this era's Marino and Kelly (except Allen and Darnold aren't a-holes and one or both of them will actually win a Super Bowl).  But as long as Gase is there, I don't fear this team one bit.  They are a dumpster fire until he leaves.

[Turbo44]

If you look at the Jets schedule, it’s rough. I see then going 2-6 in their first 8 with a solid argument that they could be 0-8 with a little bad luck.

[purple haze]

1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

If you watched Perriman in the Bucs games in December, you'd see that the Jets made a very smart decision by signing him.

 

I was really hoping they would draft defense heavy as they have before, but they did not.

 

So long as Darnold is their starting QB, we must assume they are capable of giving us trouble.

 

Although the Jets won't be a playoff team (which we both agree, obviously) they still have enough juice to compete and it's not going to be easy to play them. I'm not as hard on Gase as you are, so we'll see what happens... but if the team chemistry starts unraveling as bad as it did in Miami, then yeah he's toast.

Perriman has bounced around for a reason.  5 or 6 games in the last half of a season isn't anything any opposing team should be concerned about.  Perriman always had the talent.  He's never had the production and that included the first half of last season that saw Winston throw for 5,000 yards.  Maybe the lightbulb has come on.  More than likely he'll be what he's always been.  A talent that flashes.

 

Division games are difficult, normally, no matter the records.  The teams know each other too well.  But the Bills have the better talent top to bottom and the better coach.   The Bills are ahead of them and Allen is ahead of Darnold too as much as many fans in the country would be shocked to hear.  The game isn't style points.   It's about winning and Allen is a junkyard dog.  

 

I look forward to those Jets games.

[The Red King]

Actually, many of the Jets fan on that thread are giving Bills decent credit.  Several think we can beat or sweep them.  While the quoted reply was a lil silly, the thread itself really isn't that bad.

[TwistofFate]

2 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

I'm not with you there at all. They got a new GM who seems to have a clue and that's not good for us. Giving Darnold protection and better weapons is not something we want to see, Gase or no as HC. They are not a .500 or below team as of now, far from it, and they will probably hand us a loss. Do not be remotely fooled into thinking that the Jets are anything other than competitive rivals who will be a pain in our side for the next decade.

Joe Douglas surprised the ***** out of me.  

 

After the draft he had, it became clear to me he's legit and will make the Jets a contender. 

 

Imo, the Jets are going to be our toughest division opponents this year. 

 

I think Miami has too many new moving parts and New England is looking to tank this season to draft their new franchise Qb next draft. 

 

This division is going to be won by the Bills or Jets. 

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Giving Darnold protection and weapons wasn't a revelation.  The question is: did he sign and draft the right guys?  That remains to be seen.

 

I think the tackle will pan out though he might take a year or so to get there. Less convinced on Mims. 

[Utah John]

The Jets are a couple of years behind the Bills.  Unfortunately for the NJJ, their window to win while their QB is on his rookie contract, and there's a lot of money for everyone else, will probably close before they catch up.

 

It's Miami that I'm more worried about.  Miami has a solid coach and a lot of new players and high draft picks.  A lot like Cleveland except Miami's coach is much better, so the fish aren't falling apart if they don't win right away. Also Miami has its QB on his rookie contract and can afford to keep all those new talented players around for a few years.  The Bills will peak this year and next year, and then it's going to be tough to keep Miami from taking over the division.

 

The Jets just can't get things right.

[HOUSE]

[njbuff]

Funny, I could care less about the Jets. Always have, always will.

 

The Bills rival has always been Miami and at the other end of the spectrum has been a dismal 38-year or so embarrassment against NE.

[aristocrat]

the jets and dolphins play each other back to back this year with a bye week in between. i can't remember that happening to us before but it's probably happened in the league before. 

 

the jet seem to be about a year behind the bills at the moment if their draft this year was good.  but now i'm starting to worry we're setting ourselves up for some disappointment this year. man i hope allen lights it up this year. 

[GunnerBill]

13 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

the jets and dolphins play each other back to back this year with a bye week in between. i can't remember that happening to us before but it's probably happened in the league before. 

 

the jet seem to be about a year behind the bills at the moment if their draft this year was good.  but now i'm starting to worry we're setting ourselves up for some disappointment this year. man i hope allen lights it up this year. 

 

Not winning the division would be a significant disappointment to me. If we win the division and get bounced at home in the wildcard I will be disappointed but not downbeat necessarily. If this team fails to win the division then some serious questions should be asked (obviously excluding a situation where Allen gets hurt). 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

LOL     

 

An very short open letter to that forum. 

 

Dear Jets Fans. 

#1 Keep Sam from getting Mono  ?

#2 Win in a good and a consistent fashion.

#3 Do not hire a coach fired who was in your division!

 

 

The NYETS have been as bad or worse than the Bill for as long as I can remember.  Sure thay have one good season here or there. 

Then thy fall, nay FLY  back to the bottom in a heartbeat. 

 

[JMF2006]

When your irrelevant for 2 decades and get no coverage even 1 minute per hour must kill some other fans  

 

According to the #hashtag map the Bills are relevant now 

[ExiledInIllinois]

8 hours ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said:

If you've ever been to New York and attended a Jest's game, you'll relate to my comments.  A high percentage of their fans are aggressive and mouthy until the wheels come off and defeat is in the air.  That's when they switch over to blaming the refs and making other excuses.  Many of them leave the stadium before the fourth quarter. Many of  them know little about the game in general, little about the rules, and little about the talent or lack thereof on the Jests.  They are a really sad group of fans in general.  For other stadiums that I have attended in recent years,  I contrast them to Giants, Steelers, Packers, Colts, Titans, Tampa, Falcons and Jaguars fans that are not like them at all.  As a result, anything coming from the Jests has no credibility from my point of view.  The media seems to hype them at the start of every season (probably due to the importance of the large market) but usually by week 5 or 6, they've all crawled back into their hole.  We should all be used to this media behavior and continue to disregard it.  After all, the only thing of real importance is the game results.

They also are  fans  that do not hold a plurality  in any U.S. county... Including their traditional home  burough/county of Queens.  Truly sad.  But that  doesn't  matter  there is only one New York State team that plays in New York.

 

The Jets simply don't  exist.   Probably  why they have an inferiority, little man complex.

 

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

3 minutes ago, JMF2006 said:

When your irrelevant for 2 decades and get no coverage even 1 minute per hour must kill some other fans  

 

According to the #hashtag map the Bills are relevant now 

 

That was for playoff teams 

[aristocrat]